Some facts to chew on...

#26
#26
Originally posted by U-T@Sep 19, 2005 4:10 PM
We will continue losing games if our offensive line stinks, WR drop passes, and ST stinks...not because of the OC.
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Hey U-T, the line coach, reciever coach, rb coach and qb coach all answer to the OC. They also coach what the OC tells them to coach. Thusly, fault goes to the OC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :banghead:
 
#27
#27
Originally posted by donsargegolf@Sep 19, 2005 3:11 PM
Sometimes a coach, not RS, can make a mediocre player great. That is a coaches job, to help athletes overachieve.
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You blame Cutcliffe for not teaching Manning how to beat UF?
 
#28
#28
Originally posted by Orangewhiteblood@Sep 19, 2005 4:08 PM
I'm agreeing with you 100% about the special teams screwing this up.  I understand it and I know that wasn't Sanders fault. 

I'm just curious why the Sanders supporters wouldn't want a great OC at UT.  It baffles my mind. 

Sure, only losing about 3 games a year is a good year in the SEC, especially when one of those LOSSES is the SECCG, but just imagine what our record could be if we had a high caliber OC calling plays.  It might just bump our record up to 1 or 2 losses a year.  Maybe one, maybe even none.
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We'll NEVER get a great OC at Tennessee until Fulmer is gone. He likes to be in control and that is why we have Sanders. When you guys complain about Sanders.... you might as well replace "Sanders" with "Fulmer" because he's the one calling the shots.

And in my opinion, we should not get rid of a head coach that wins 80% of his games, is the dean of SEC coaches, has 1 national title, and beats Alabama regularly. No team can sustain a status as a national contender for long. Look at how Oklahoma is doing this year, look at Nebraska's fall from the top... even Florida State hasn't looked as good the past few seasons. Southern Cal will drop down a notch here soon.... just like Miami dropped before Larry Coker arrived as coach.

 
#30
#30
Originally posted by U-T@Sep 19, 2005 3:14 PM
You blame Cutcliffe for not teaching Manning how to beat UF?
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Well Don?
 
#31
#31
Originally posted by U-T@Sep 19, 2005 3:58 PM
Excuses are what people are doing when saying it is Sanders fault we lost the game.

I am pointing our facts about OL, WR, and ST.

You all are crying about how those didnt matter yet play calling did.

:dance:  :dance:  :dance:
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CRS has not lived up to what he is supposed to do. Period! He has had some of the highest rated classes in the NATION and has done what? Give me a break!
 
#32
#32
Originally posted by allvol@Sep 19, 2005 3:14 PM
And in my opinion, we should not get rid of a head coach that wins 80% of his games, is the dean of SEC coaches, has 1 national title, and beats Alabama regularly.  No team can sustain a status as a national contender for long.  Look at how Oklahoma is doing this year, look at Nebraska's fall from the top... even Florida State hasn't looked as good the past few seasons.  Southern Cal will drop down a notch here soon.... just like Miami dropped before Larry Coker arrived as coach.
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:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:
 
#34
#34
Hey VN, just read the facts of this topic and quit arguing personally. The facts say Cutcliffe got it done, Sanders is not. :whistling:
 
#35
#35
As soon as the Vols had comparable talent levels they were able to handle the Gators. Now they are arguably more talented and cannot get the job done.
 
#36
#36
Originally posted by donsargegolf@Sep 19, 2005 4:11 PM
Sometimes a coach, not RS, can make a mediocre player great. That is a coaches job, to help athletes overachieve.
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based upon Clausen's college stats and absolute flop in the pros, I think the coaching staff did make a mediocre player overachieve.
 
#37
#37
Originally posted by donsargegolf@Sep 19, 2005 3:16 PM
Hey VN, just read the facts of this topic and quit arguing personally. The facts say Cutcliffe got it done, Sanders is not. :whistling:
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:lolabove:

Can't answer the question
 
#39
#39
Originally posted by VolBeef88@Sep 19, 2005 3:17 PM
Pay me a million a year and I will get some one in!
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No thanks, we don't want to become the next Kentucky Football program
 
#40
#40
Peyton didn't beat Florida BUT, won one more SEC Championship than Sanders has. Oh yeah, and won more games than any other qb in the history of College Football!
 
#42
#42
Originally posted by U-T@Sep 19, 2005 4:16 PM
:bow:  :bow:  :bow:  :bow:
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Chris Hatcher, Spurrier's son, Mike Leach, Hal Mumme, Louisville's OC, Trooper Taylor, Joker Phillips, J. Brohm, Fred Thompson, Billy Bob Thorton, Gene Hackman, Robert Peace's future wife
 
#43
#43
Originally posted by donsargegolf@Sep 19, 2005 4:20 PM
Peyton didn't beat Florida BUT, won one more SEC Championship than Sanders has. Oh yeah, and won more games than any other qb in the history of College Football!
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Where are u U-T? I answered you stupid question.
 
#44
#44
Originally posted by Lexvol@Sep 19, 2005 4:17 PM
As soon as the Vols had comparable talent levels they were able to handle the Gators.  Now they are arguably more talented and cannot get the job done.
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You must have missed the '90s then... because the Vols were much more talented than the Gators but still lost.

Everybody keeps talking about talent like the Vols were not talented in the '90s. I have to laugh at that. Until the current Vols can prove themselves on the field, you'll never convince me that the teams the Vols had in the 1990's were not superior.

Matter of fact, recently, the Vols number of drafted choices in the NFL draft has been reduced drastically, especially in the first 3 rounds.
 
#45
#45
You didnt answer my question at all. You went moaning about how an OC's job is to make someone over-achieve yet Peyton only won 1 SEC Title and my god...how many people have you heard that didn't even know that?

In just about everyone's eyes, Peyton under-achieved at UT and UF is the prime reason.

Thus, in your view...Cutcliffe should have been fired.

Just going through you view
 
#46
#46
Originally posted by allvol@Sep 19, 2005 4:25 PM
You must have missed the '90s then... because the Vols were much more talented than the Gators but still lost.

Everybody keeps talking about talent like the Vols were not talented in the '90s.  I have to laugh at that.  Until the current Vols can prove themselves on the field, you'll never convince me that the teams the Vols had in the 1990's were not superior.

Matter of fact, recently, the Vols number of drafted choices in the NFL draft has been reduced drastically, especially in the first 3 rounds.
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We were did not have comparable speed until around 96.
 
#47
#47
What does all this rhetoric have to do with Cutcliffe outperforming OC-RS by 364 points in SIX years? That's 60.6 points per year. Wow.
 
#48
#48
Originally posted by donsargegolf@Sep 19, 2005 4:16 PM
Hey VN, just read the facts of this topic and quit arguing personally. The facts say Cutcliffe got it done, Sanders is not. :whistling:
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What the stats say is that they BOTH got it done, just that Cutcliffe did it better.... and with better talent.

I agree that I don't like the way the offense is coached, but I also realize that Fulmer is the main guy that makes the decision... not a bunch of dudes typing on computers instead of doing something meaningful (me included).
 
#49
#49
Originally posted by allvol@Sep 19, 2005 5:29 PM
not a bunch of dudes typing on computers instead of doing something meaningful (me included).
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:lol:

I have already done my one meaningful thing for the day thank you very much. :angel:
 
#50
#50
U-T i might take your opinion a little more if UT hadnt struggled with UAB, Marshall, Missippi, Alabama, Notre Dame, Vandy, Kentucky..

the list is getting bigger not smaller.
 
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