Something Has To Change...

#27
#27
GiveHim6InSC said:
I wish there was a way to have refs from another conference doing league games, and let SEC refs go to other conferences for their games. Seems to work okay in bowls 🤷‍♂️
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I understand what you're saying, but in that scenario they wouldn't really be "SEC refs" anymore, right?
 
#34
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90 Vol said:
Maybe fans should stop defending corrupt officiating that artificially changes the outcome of games.
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Nobody is defending anything. But I see fans making excuses for horrible coaching, zero adjustments and piss poor execution. That’s what I see. It happened every single year. If we win it’s in spite of the officiating. If we lose, it’s because of officiating.
 
#35
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Agree coaching lost this game due to bad play calling and bad game preparation, bad practice during the week. That said, the worst call by the ref's was the chicken---- PI on our guy that gave Bama a first down in second half. Even the Bama loving announcers said it was " nit picking". Our guy barely touched his jersey
 
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Matt2496 said:
...with regards to the refereeing in college football, especially the SEC. I get that refs are human, but these refs were clearly biased heavily against us. Only one 5 yard penalty was called on Alabama. Multiple, blatant penalties that should have been called against Bama were conveniently missed, such as the choke-hold for example.

Of course, it is a massive conflict of interest to have the SEC Commissioner's office right there in downtown Birmingham. Bribery and corruption are very real possibilities. My hope is that someday a whistleblower from inside the SEC comes out and reveals the widespread corruption. I yearn for that day to come. The money is probably too good to pass up so people probably just stay silent.

Also, I think accountability within the SEC is a big problem. Refs simply aren't being held accountable for corrupt and garbage refereeing. I think that refereeing should be audited and blatant missed calls should be penalized (suspensions and firing) and fined. I think the auditors should consist of an unbiased, separate committee consisting of SMEs from schools completely unaffiliated with the schools playing the games they are reviewing such that there is no possible agenda.

Finally, I think referees should be background checked and asked questions, such as what university they attended, so that they never referee a game where they went to school.

Something needs to change, but it never will because the SEC is accountable to no one.
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I don’t believe someone who resides in the state of a particular school or has previously worked for a particular school should be allowed to work that schools game or a game in which one of that school’s rivals is playing (i.e. the Florida game this year; the head official used to be in Bama admin)
 
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volfanhill said:
Top end SEC football refs make $2,500 a game. So the highest paid make $35,000 a year. Maybe we could demand more, attract better talent, and develop them if it was a full time job. The average server at Applebees doesn't really give a shat if you enjoyed your meal. Maybe we should pay more then an Applebees server makes.

Also this "can't criticize the refs" crap by the conference needs to go.
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At a minimum the SEC office needs to be moved out of Birmingham. It is obvious that there is undue influence on officials by Alabama. You can’t tell me these people are not influenced by living there amongst them.
 
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LibertyVol said:
At a minimum the SEC office needs to be moved out of Birmingham. It is obvious that there is undue influence on officials by Alabama. You can’t tell me these people are not influenced by living there amongst them.
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Disagree. The refs are crap in every game. Every conference. Just watch the two current ACC games on. Yikes.

Also where you going to put it?

Nashville? Every other school will claim TN bias

Atlanta? Georgia Bias


It has nothing to do with Birmingham. Wish it did. Would be easier to fix
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
TN fans should grow a pair and stop blaming officiating for every single loss.
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I don’t blame them for every loss… but they’ve been atrocious this year and today was the worst of all, so you honestly believe Bama just committed one penalty the whole game or do you even believe the refs only saw Bama commit one penalty the whole game, that was a total screw job! It’s ok for Bama to kick our players, choke our players hold in multiple spots on every play, hold receivers on defense, but our linebacker better not even think about clapping. Give me a break!
 
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Matt2496 said:
...with regards to the refereeing in college football, especially the SEC. I get that refs are human, but these refs were clearly biased heavily against us. Only one 5 yard penalty was called on Alabama. Multiple, blatant penalties that should have been called against Bama were conveniently missed, such as the choke-hold for example.

Of course, it is a massive conflict of interest to have the SEC Commissioner's office right there in downtown Birmingham. Bribery and corruption are very real possibilities. My hope is that someday a whistleblower from inside the SEC comes out and reveals the widespread corruption. I yearn for that day to come. The money is probably too good to pass up so people probably just stay silent.

Also, I think accountability within the SEC is a big problem. Refs simply aren't being held accountable for corrupt and garbage refereeing. I think that refereeing should be audited and blatant missed calls should be penalized (suspensions and firing) and fined. I think the auditors should consist of an unbiased, separate committee consisting of SMEs from schools completely unaffiliated with the schools playing the games they are reviewing such that there is no possible agenda.

Finally, I think referees should be background checked and asked questions, such as what university they attended, so that they never referee a game where they went to school.

Something needs to change, but it never will because the SEC is accountable to no one.
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its a principal-agent problem. The organization that gets millions of dollars when Alabama and Georgia make and win play off games is also the organization that is responsible for officiating the games those two teams play in. A good start would be to have an independent, impartial organization that is separate from the conference structure take over officiating.
 
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volfanhill said:
Top end SEC football refs make $2,500 a game. So the highest paid make $35,000 a year. Maybe we could demand more, attract better talent, and develop them if it was a full time job. The average server at Applebees doesn't really give a shat if you enjoyed your meal. Maybe we should pay more then an Applebees server makes.

Also this "can't criticize the refs" crap by the conference needs to go.
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$35K to work 48 hours a year tops is pretty unbelievable pay. Not many jobs paying $750/hr.
 
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#43
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volfanhill said:
Maybe the problem is that's all they are working?
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That’s all they’re working, meaning 48 hours isn’t enough reps? Or 48 hours is their full time job so why do they care? If you think it’s the latter that’s grossly wrong so I hope I’m misunderstanding that.
 
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#44
I would like to know who made the call to review and then overturn the spot where Milton had the 1st and they marked him 1/2 yard short. Also the other play when Milton clearly crossed 1st down line and referee said he didn’t , and that was overturned. Were both of these calls because of Ken (Tuscaloosa) Williamson todays referee
 
#46
#46
Blow up our AD. We will find out real quick if he’s an SEC ass kisser or if he’s a leader of this athletic department
 
#47
#47
AthensVol2007 said:
That’s all they’re working, meaning 48 hours isn’t enough reps? Or 48 hours is their full time job so why do they care? If you think it’s the latter that’s grossly wrong so I hope I’m misunderstanding that.
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Meaning they could do so much more work and practice then just game day. Tons of continuous education, reviews of calls from previous week, situational awareness situations, all sorts of shat. We are getting part time job results bc it's a part time job.
 
#49
#49
JoeMiltonsAgent said:
Agreed.

Said it in the other thread.

Multi billion dollar business relying on part time employees in one of the most important positions in the company.

It's a joke.
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Probably for a reason..Today's game seemed predetermined before the ball was even kicked off. Then we got a glimmer of hope to only have it squashed like a bug in the second half. I think what is more alarming is the total collapse and lack of any poise. Happened in both SEC road games so far.
 
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volfanhill said:
Top end SEC football refs make $2,500 a game. So the highest paid make $35,000 a year. Maybe we could demand more, attract better talent, and develop them if it was a full time job. The average server at Applebees doesn't really give a shat if you enjoyed your meal. Maybe we should pay more then an Applebees server makes.

Also this "can't criticize the refs" crap by the conference needs to go.
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I bet a few made more than that tonight
 
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