Sorta Dissapointing

#26
#26
CA_Vol said:
So what is your rationale for why we have an near entire class of 3 star players? Butch & Co just found all the diamonds in the rough? Heck we didn't even get a sniff from the top players in Tennessee.
Click to expand...

Depth and needs.


When in reality outside of 2-3 these kids won't be any better than Tennessee 2nd string
 
#30
#30
CA_Vol said:
So what is your rationale for why we have an near entire class of 3 star players? Butch & Co just found all the diamonds in the rough? Heck we didn't even get a sniff from the top players in Tennessee.
Click to expand...

You are starting to look a little foolish. You obviously don't truly understand the anatomy of this class...and recruiting in general. You're simply a star gazer.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 4 people
#31
#31
sanddune50 said:
They do? How many have you spoke to?
Click to expand...

He doesn't and there is nothing wrong with this class. Offers are the better indicator and there are many prospects in this class with multiple offers from good programs. I am not sure why some of you can't seem to grasp that Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Texas, Louisiana have much better in state recruiting bases than the state of Tennessee therefore it is much easier to bring in great recruiting classes. The fact that UF is slightly "better" than UT is a more damning indication of where McElwain is as a coach than CBJ in terms of recruiting. If you can't recruit in the state of Florida then you can't recruit anywhere. Some of you act as though there are dozens of elite players growing up in the state of Tennessee who dream of playing at UT. That is just simply not the case as compared to UF, Bama, UGA, Auburn, or LSU. While UT does crack the top 5 occasionally in terms of team recruiting rankings, UT's road to the top 5 depends on a lot of factors like playing time, and recruits who want to leave the state. Unfortunately for UT, Clemson's resurgence has cut into a lot of UT's past recruiting roads. UT used to be able to just outspend everyone in terms of their recruiting budget but that is just not the case anymore. Everyone recruits nationally now, and this notion that just anyone can waltz into UT and haul in a top 10 class is non-sense.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 5 people
#32
#32
Ask yourself this question, "are we a top 10 team?" No. Have we been in the last 10 years? No. Why would we be consistently recruiting in the top 10? Because we are entitled because we are UT? No.
No. The reality is that we are a top 25 team(on the bubble), that is recruiting consistently above our records.is that supposed to make us all feel better? No but if you're grounded, it gives you perspective.
Part of the reason that we did so poorly it's because of all that Tennessee hype train that we were jacking off to preseason. That set the national expectations of what this team should do. When we didn't accomplish it, we looked like we were regressing. Then you get a bunch of talk of Butch being fired and that just throws fuel on the Fire.
If we do the unthinkable and exceed expectations this coming season, if one of these young quarterbacks shows out next season, and our defense stiffens up and actually hold somebody two under 50 points, most of the nation will take notice. If we have a losing season, it's over for Butch. The recruiting classes will fall apart and we will consistently be a 7 and 6 until he's gone. However if we improve on this year's record or even maintain this year's record, people are going to take notice that we did not take that huge step back and have a rebuilding year. Next year's recruiting class would probably be around a number 10 class and Butch will save his job.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 4 people
#33
#33
We finished right about where I thought we would. 15 to 20 in team rank nationally and about 7th in SEC. It is what it is. Got to win to get great classes. We'll have to get'm next year.:)
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#36
#36
landscapingvol said:
He doesn't and there is nothing wrong with this class. Offers are the better indicator and there are many prospects in this class with multiple offers from good programs. I am not sure why some of you can't seem to grasp that Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Texas, Louisiana have much better in state recruiting bases than the state of Tennessee therefore it is much easier to bring in great recruiting classes. The fact that UF is slightly "better" than UT is a more damning indication of where McElwain is as a coach than CBJ in terms of recruiting. If you can't recruit in the state of Florida then you can't recruit anywhere. Some of you act as though there are dozens of elite players growing up in the state of Tennessee who dream of playing at UT. That is just simply not the case as compared to UF, Bama, UGA, Auburn, or LSU. While UT does crack the top 5 occasionally in terms of team recruiting rankings, UT's road to the top 5 depends on a lot of factors like playing time, and recruits who want to leave the state. Unfortunately for UT, Clemson's resurgence has cut into a lot of UT's past recruiting roads. UT used to be able to just outspend everyone in terms of their recruiting budget but that is just not the case anymore. Everyone recruits nationally now, and this notion that just anyone can waltz into UT and haul in a top 10 class is non-sense.
Click to expand...

I have to agree on this. Plus Butch did not win like predicted this season and that does not help as well not to mention no AD on board. If he can win 10 next year then things may get better. We'll see.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#37
#37
Dudleys87 said:
Depth and needs.


When in reality outside of 2-3 these kids won't be any better than Tennessee 2nd string
Click to expand...

Then why even recruit them, aren'tyou supposed to recruit over your current players?. I dont think too many players on our current roster is scared of losing their job to anyone in this class.. just save the scholly for next year i say...
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#39
#39
Classes in the teens consistently give us little chance at SEC /natty titles. But, if we met our depth needs (which it appears like) with a class like this one. And can follow it up with with top 10s and top 5s in upcoming years, then we are positioned to make those runs.
It's not like the end of the world if we finish like this here and there. But, we need to get back to elite status in Feb if we are to be elite in Sep-Dec.
 
#40
#40
landscapingvol said:
He doesn't and there is nothing wrong with this class. Offers are the better indicator and there are many prospects in this class with multiple offers from good programs. I am not sure why some of you can't seem to grasp that Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Texas, Louisiana have much better in state recruiting bases than the state of Tennessee therefore it is much easier to bring in great recruiting classes. The fact that UF is slightly "better" than UT is a more damning indication of where McElwain is as a coach than CBJ in terms of recruiting. If you can't recruit in the state of Florida then you can't recruit anywhere. Some of you act as though there are dozens of elite players growing up in the state of Tennessee who dream of playing at UT. That is just simply not the case as compared to UF, Bama, UGA, Auburn, or LSU. While UT does crack the top 5 occasionally in terms of team recruiting rankings, UT's road to the top 5 depends on a lot of factors like playing time, and recruits who want to leave the state. Unfortunately for UT, Clemson's resurgence has cut into a lot of UT's past recruiting roads. UT used to be able to just outspend everyone in terms of their recruiting budget but that is just not the case anymore. Everyone recruits nationally now, and this notion that just anyone can waltz into UT and haul in a top 10 class is non-sense.
Click to expand...

Tennessee has put out a lot more high end talent than it did 15+ years ago, just since Jones has been here. There was also an influx of legacy kids that hit at a perfect time. Jones has been able to snag a few of them in each class (more in previous classes) but there's also kids that got away that our rivals keep in state.

The instate talk holds some water but TN is also not fighting instate rivals for talent like most of the states you listed.

This class has some solid pieces but it's not fine unless you have subjected yourself to the 8 win is fine crowd.

Jones sold what all do early in his time here (well) and many bit on the vision. If his vision had panned out for the team and the development of the players was where it needed to be, he should have had no problem backing up his 2 top 5 classes. Thats not to say that he should pull those same classes every year but I don't see this class in the same talks as 14' and 15'.

Its not hard to see whats playing out. Jones is a good salesman until the product is revealed. Some don't want to see it, others see it but cringe at pointing it out.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#41
#41
CA_Vol said:
So what is your rationale for why we have an near entire class of 3 star players? Butch & Co just found all the diamonds in the rough? Heck we didn't even get a sniff from the top players in Tennessee.
Click to expand...

So the answer is you guessed and posted it as a fact. Got it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 4 people
#42
#42
aredfox28 said:
Then why even recruit them, aren'tyou supposed to recruit over your current players?. I dont think too many players on our current roster is scared of losing their job to anyone in this class.. just save the scholly for next year i say...
Click to expand...

Are you sniffing paint? Who told you that you are supposed to recruit over current players? You will never have experienced players playing if that is the case.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3 people
#43
#43
Same crap as Dooley last class, people praising a bad class and talking about underrated and depth players.
Sorry but you don't build quality depth with mediocre players. CBJ has built a dominate AAC roster, and some how still loses to bad teams.

We will struggle to hire a coach after next season because he drug the roster back down to where he got it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 5 people
#44
#44
BigOrangeD said:
We finished right about where I thought we would. 15 to 20 in team rank nationally and about 7th in SEC. It is what it is. Got to win to get great classes. We'll have to get'm next year.:)
Click to expand...

Top 15 on every site other than the composite (17th).
 
#45
#45
aredfox28 said:
Then why even recruit them, aren'tyou supposed to recruit over your current players?. I dont think too many players on our current roster is scared of losing their job to anyone in this class.. just save the scholly for next year i say...
Click to expand...

You missed it.


I am no fan of this class outside of Chandler and Smith
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#46
#46
Is south carolina about to jump us in the recruiting team rankings? It looks to me they might be one or two commits away from passing us.
 
#48
#48
Dudleys87 said:
Let's pretend like they don't watch football like everyone else on Saturday
Let's pretend like they didn't notice Jones miss the SECCG again by losing to teams he shouldn't
Let's pretend like the good ones still buy what he's selling

This class is mediocre just like Jones and it showed because he couldn't back fill it with legacies. Tennessee needs guys that can play right away and the second half of the season is all the proof you need. Not a bunch of guys they hope can play in 3.
Click to expand...

A lot of words and a lot of guessing at the same time. My keyboard must be typing different messages than I am seeing on my screen. I don't recall saying anything remotely close to what you are talking about. I already said it was a pedestrian class. Still top 15 on every site. The thing I see with you is you say the exact same thing over and over again. I too think Butch had a rough year on the field and in recruiting. But that doesn't mean I'm going to randomly rant about it in every thread. Get a hold of yourself.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 5 people
#49
#49
AstonRoyal said:
Is south carolina about to jump us in the recruiting team rankings? It looks to me they might be one or two commits away from passing us.
Click to expand...

Best class ever....


Nevermimd that Florida, Georgia, and now SC have or will pass Tennessee.
 
#50
#50
sanddune50 said:
A lot of words and a lot of guessing at the same time. My keyboard must be typing different messages than I am seeing on my screen. I don't recall saying anything remotely close to what you are talking about. I already said it was a pedestrian class. Still top 15 on every site. The thing I see with you is you say the exact same thing over and over again. I too think Butch had a rough year on the field and in recruiting. But that doesn't mean I'm going to randomly rant about it in every thread. Get a hold of yourself.
Click to expand...

It's the same post because it warrants the same answer.
Pump everything to death when the negavols see it for what it is complete garbage outside of 2-3 players.
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top