Sorta Dissapointing

#51
#51
titansvolsfaninga said:
Are you sniffing paint? Who told you that you are supposed to recruit over current players? You will never have experienced players playing if that is the case.
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You never heard that saying in recruiting? What rock are you living under? I hear it all the time...
 
#52
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landscapingvol said:
He doesn't and there is nothing wrong with this class. Offers are the better indicator and there are many prospects in this class with multiple offers from good programs. I am not sure why some of you can't seem to grasp that Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Texas, Louisiana have much better in state recruiting bases than the state of Tennessee therefore it is much easier to bring in great recruiting classes. The fact that UF is slightly "better" than UT is a more damning indication of where McElwain is as a coach than CBJ in terms of recruiting. If you can't recruit in the state of Florida then you can't recruit anywhere. Some of you act as though there are dozens of elite players growing up in the state of Tennessee who dream of playing at UT. That is just simply not the case as compared to UF, Bama, UGA, Auburn, or LSU. While UT does crack the top 5 occasionally in terms of team recruiting rankings, UT's road to the top 5 depends on a lot of factors like playing time, and recruits who want to leave the state. Unfortunately for UT, Clemson's resurgence has cut into a lot of UT's past recruiting roads. UT used to be able to just outspend everyone in terms of their recruiting budget but that is just not the case anymore. Everyone recruits nationally now, and this notion that just anyone can waltz into UT and haul in a top 10 class is non-sense.
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Good post, but you are wrong to judge Mac as a coach on the basis of the site's ratings of his recruits. Consider this: Mac's first two classes produced more freshmen all-sec and freshmen all-Americans than Muschamp produced in four higher ranked classes.
 
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Ancient Reptile said:
Good post, but you are wrong to judge Mac as a coach on the basis of the site's ratings of his recruits. Consider this: Mac's first two classes produced more freshmen all-sec and freshmen all-Americans than Muschamp produced in four higher ranked classes.
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To be fair, I am not sure that means a whole lot. Just means that Mac HAD to play them. Most freshman teams are made up of freshmen who played the most.
 
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Dudleys87 said:
It's the same post because it warrants the same answer.
Pump everything to death when the negavols see it for what it is complete garbage outside of 2-3 players.
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What are your qualifications again to assess the value of the individual recruits? Your above statement tells me you have no clue what's going on.
 
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Somebody needs to inform Clemson that you can't recruit at this level and succeed?????
 

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#59
Outstanding class of young men who want to be Vols! I don't give a rip for stars or naysayers. These men deserve our support and motivation to hit the books and weights. From what I can tell, we filled needs and finally have some developmental time. I'm impressed with our new and existing coaches and trust their opinions far more than a bunch of arm chair whiners. Ditto sports media. The gap between UT and all but the top 7 was really small and teams like Oregon, Georgia Tech, Arkansas, and others scored far below us. Get a grip folks. Go Big Orange!
 
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#60
I got a question? Since CBJ has been here it seems as if he only recruits kids he's certain he can get, when you look around at other top classes with the highly recruited player you don't see many with offers from UT? I see offers go out but then we move on to a project type player instead of kids that can play now, is this normal for recruiting? I'm not bashing CBJ just curious
 
#61
#61
I've followed HS football as an occupation for over 20 years and still cringe at so-called "experts" and assignment of stars..Truth be told, the difference in opinion on a 4, 3 or 2 star is ridiculously small when closely examined..The parameters for star ratings is completely subjective and, at times, asinine when it comes to non-skill positions..IMHO the difference between the ratings within the top 10 is much less than folks are led to believe..The top 5 are definitely as talented as any kids in the country but IMHO the dropoff between top 10 and 11-25 is MUCH less than everyone wants to think..Filling needs is the consideration I take into account with this 2017 class and despite what others are saying, I think this class not only fills needs but does so with top flight talent..Until this group hits the field at UT I will reserve judgement..But IMHO CBJ has a group that will fit quite nicely and hopefully prove that stars aren't as important as all the experts say.....

JMHO
 
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#62
#62
This class is a joke. Getting out recruited by McElwain and Richt? I mean for crying out loud. Mediocrity at its finest. I am sure some of you will say this class is full of Cam Suttons and Eddie Jacksons. But the fact is, this class was beyond disappointing. But then again, what do you expect when you lose to lowly USc and get your butt kicked by Vanderbilt.
 
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#63
Dang, I will be glad when this week is over and the FF fools take their fodder back to their forum!
 
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#65
Just wondering if you posters agree with the College experts. I heard many say that this was a total rebuild for Jones.TN has went 9-4 the past 2 years.Is it really as bad as most posters think it is.I know Jones shouldn't of lost to Vandy or USCjr but teams lose games they shouldn't all the time.I think Jones is putting all his eggs in the basket on Guarantano.

Found this article from 2014 on average recruiting ranking.


13 years of SEC team recruiting rankings rolled into one: No. 6 Tennessee Volunteers - Saturday Down South
 
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appvol said:
Just wondering if you posters agree with the College experts. I heard many say that this was a total rebuild for Jones.TN has went 9-4 the past 2 years.Is it really as bad as most posters think it is.I know Jones shouldn't of lost to Vandy or USCjr but teams lose games they shouldn't all the time.I think Jones is putting all his eggs in the basket on Guarantano.

Found this article from 2014 on average recruiting ranking.


13 years of SEC team recruiting rankings rolled into one: No. 6 Tennessee Volunteers - Saturday Down South
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There should be no such thing as a total rebuild in year 5. You cannot put all yoir eggs into 1 player. IMO, that shows you are not preparing for the future in the right way. I probably know less about this stuff than almost anyone on here so take what I say with a grain of salt.
 
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#67
It has been said numerous times, Butch is not a SEC coach. This class would be awesome for some of the teams he has coached in the past. He cannot, and in my opinion, never will be a good SEC coach. We are now, and will always be, as long as he is our coach, a mid level SEC team. Hopefully our new AD will not accept mediocrity
 
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VOLATNES said:
Somebody needs to inform Clemson that you can't recruit at this level and succeed?????
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Are you saying Butch and the best staff in America is as good as Dabo and his staff? That is where the difference is. Dabo and his staff coaches his players and Butch , well it doesn't look like his kids are not being coached period.
 
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#73
Disappointed in a class that hasn't even taken the field yet, or do you mean with your trained eye for talent? Why don't we support this class until they prove one way or another?
 
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Orange Studs said:
Disappointed in a class that hasn't even taken the field yet, or do you mean with your trained eye for talent? Why don't we support this class until they prove one way or another?
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Much more fun to complain about stars given by armchair hack journalists.
 
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