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duckyness said:
How did SEC do in bowl games(I'm being serious, I actually don't know the stat)?
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our conference got another national title. that's the only one that matters. LSU x 2, UF x 2, UT x 1

We have 5 BCS national titles since the BCS started. USC has one BCS title and it was in a year where Auburn went undefeated but got the shaft for Oklahoma because of the preseason polls.
 
#152
#152
govols182 said:
Right, you'd rather get a recruit to hire Tom Cruise to measure his theton's with an E-METER. I don't understand how you can intelligently argue that Oregon is better than Tennessee.
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Well a good format of deciding which school to go to.

1- Best chance of being a good pick in NFL.
#13 pick = RB out of Oregon, Jonathan Stewart
2- A good college football team
Oregon should be ranked in top 10 in pre-season
3- Best shot to be very productive and get good playing time.
Oregon was #1 in rushing TD's, #1 in yards per carry. #2 in rushing yards. IN THE NATION. Brown would've been splitting carries with a top running back in the nation(who is a senior), and would've take fully over the starting role the next year.
 
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Demon_Vol said:
What quacks me up about you duck fans is your spin on words spoken. You posted the quotes yourself, and yet not once did Brown's parents tell him he COULD NOT go to Oregon. They simply told him to make a spiritual decision, which was the plan all along from what I can gather. They're a very religious family and they just wanted to make sure he made the right decision for him. If spiritually he had chosen Oregon, he would have gone to Oregon. Yes he loves Oregon, but after praying and thinking it over, it just wasn't the right fit for what he wants to do. So please, stop saying that his parents wouldn't "let" him go to Oregon.
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I'm a religious person. I respect that Brown is also and that they reference religion in this context. But, I think you're naive if you think that, by saying that the decision was spiritual, it means that they ignored practical factors.
 
#155
#155
Ducky, do you really want to argue about former players in the NFL? I mean really? Think that over for a moment then get back to me.
 
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#156
Tennessee Jack said:
our conference got another national title. that's the only one that matters. LSU x 2, UF x 2, UT x 1

We have 5 BCS national titles since the BCS started. USC has one BCS title and it was in a year where Auburn went undefeated but got the shaft for Oklahoma because of the preseason polls.
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BCS is ****, please talk pre-BCS.

BCS is a horrible system, just horrible.
 
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#157
duckyness said:
I guess we can never know, can we?

The pac-10 was supposed to be a horrible conference and yet managed to go 5-0 in bowl games.

How did SEC do in bowl games(I'm being serious, I actually don't know the stat)?
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Woo hoo. How many NC's does our conference have to yours in the last 15 years? How many of those did your wanna-be team contribute to?
 
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wheaton4prez said:
You call my statements ridiculous and you buy into the curvature of the stadium as being the cause of the noise.

Then you go on to say that the same is true at Lane Stadium. Sorry. I've been to both stadiums. They are both loud due to fans. But, they couldn't be more different from each other in design. Autzen is curved and closed all around. Lane is tiered, not symetrical and includes huge gaps between sections. They do not share anything design-wise.

What are you trying to argue, that there are little walls at the top edges that bounce the noise back in? That the angle of the people is different so that sound bounces off of them downward? At least make a concrete argument for why a stadium is louder acoustically.

You're right that Oregon can't magically yell louder than everyone else. They do it by yelling louder, more often. No brain surgery or acoustics required.
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i did not argue that they have the exact same acoustical engineering but i would argue that both stadiums were designed with the intent of maximizing the level of fan noise that can be concentrated onto the field. it's nothing to be embarrassed about hokies being from an engineering school are proud of the fact that the acoustics of the stadium make it louder. i have been in lane stadium when it is empty and if one person stands on the field and another in the top row of the east sideline the person on the field can hear the other person speak in a normal voice without shouting.
 
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duckyness said:
I guess we can never know, can we?

The pac-10 was supposed to be a horrible conference and yet managed to go 5-0 in bowl games.

How did SEC do in bowl games(I'm being serious, I actually don't know the stat)?
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We'll know how you'd fair against UT in about 18 months.


I love how you COMPLETELY dodged the question. Be honest....give me an Oregon record for playing an SEC schedule.

Just this past season (a down year for SEC football) we'd have had atleast 4 teams finish with a 10 win season.

Bama, Florida, UGA, Ole Miss...I'd be hard pressed to think LSU would finish any worse than 9-3 in the PAC-10.
 
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duckyness said:
Well a good format of deciding which school to go to.

1- Best chance of being a good pick in NFL.
#13 pick = RB out of Oregon, Jonathan Stewart
2- A good college football team
Oregon should be ranked in top 10 in pre-season
3- Best shot to be very productive and get good playing time.
Oregon was #1 in rushing TD's, #1 in yards per carry. #2 in rushing yards. IN THE NATION. Brown would've been splitting carries with a top running back in the nation(who is a senior), and would've take fully over the starting role the next year.
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James Stewart > Jonathan Stewart
 
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Demon_Vol said:
Ducky, do you really want to argue about former players in the NFL? I mean really? Think that over for a moment then get back to me.
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Love to hear how some of Tennessee's running backs are doing in the NFL.

Reuben Droughns, Maurice Morris, Jonathan Stewart are some running backs from Oregon currently in NFL.
 
#162
#162
Peyton Manning > J. Stewart

do you know what the shelf life is for an NFL running back?

face it. you root for a track school. Oregon is Nike. Tennessee football is its own culture. You are coattail riders.
 
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wheaton4prez said:
I'm a religious person. I respect that Brown is also and that they reference religion in this context. But, I think you're naive if you think that, by saying that the decision was spiritual, it means that they ignored practical factors.
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Oh I agree that practical factors were part of the decision. It could simply mean that by praying about it and fasting he came to understand the importance of those matters. Things such as coaches with NFL experience, a pro style offense, a conference with the best competition week in and week out, and national exposure (SEC ESPN Contract). Praying and fasting could very easily be the method that he used to decide that those things were more important in the long term than loving a school.
 
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#164
duckyness said:
Well a good format of deciding which school to go to.

1- Best chance of being a good pick in NFL.
#13 pick = RB out of Oregon, Jonathan Stewart
2- A good college football team
Oregon should be ranked in top 10 in pre-season
3- Best shot to be very productive and get good playing time.
Oregon was #1 in rushing TD's, #1 in yards per carry. #2 in rushing yards. IN THE NATION. Brown would've been splitting carries with a top running back in the nation(who is a senior), and would've take fully over the starting role the next year.
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RB Jamal Lewis 5th overall pick in the 2000 draft.:) Whats your point. We have produced better running backs.

So good you've won a NC...
 
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duckyness said:
Love to hear how some of Tennessee's running backs are doing in the NFL.

Reuben Droughns, Maurice Morris, Jonathan Stewart are some running backs from Oregon currently in NFL.
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Travis Henry has more kids than these three had yards last year.
 
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jrobison said:
We'll know how you'd fair against UT in about 18 months.


I love how you COMPLETELY dodged the question. Be honest....give me an Oregon record for playing an SEC schedule.

Just this past season (a down year for SEC football) we'd have had atleast 4 teams finish with a 10 win season.

Bama, Florida, UGA, Ole Miss...I'd be hard pressed to think LSU would finish any worse than 9-3 in the PAC-10.
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Dodged the question, huh?

over the past 10 years (1998 - 2007), the Pac-10 actually leads the SEC 9-6 (.600).

Just checked that up, not sure about the 08-09 season though, but there you go
 
#173
#173
duckyness said:
Well a good format of deciding which school to go to.

1- Best chance of being a good pick in NFL.
#13 pick = RB out of Oregon, Jonathan Stewart
2- A good college football team
Oregon should be ranked in top 10 in pre-season
3- Best shot to be very productive and get good playing time.
Oregon was #1 in rushing TD's, #1 in yards per carry. #2 in rushing yards. IN THE NATION. Brown would've been splitting carries with a top running back in the nation(who is a senior), and would've take fully over the starting role the next year.
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1-Wow, one guy. How many NFL RB's have we had in the NFL in the last decade compared to yours? I'd bet more.
2-Who cares about preseason polls, it's postseason that matters. LSU started 7th and weren't ranked postseason. Auburn was 10th and unranked postseason. What is your team's all time win record to Tennessee's? I'd guess at least 100-150 games behind.
3-Whoopdie doo! Would you rather have a balanced offense or one sided? Would you rather play against the best competition or mid-level defenses?

Would you rather play with NFL experienced coaches or a terd/urine colored team?
 
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duckyness said:
Last I checked, Peyton Manning is not a RB. LOL
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Peyton is the face of Tennessee football in the league. He is an ambassador for the school. I'd be willing to bet that 9 in 10 fans could connect Manning to Tennessee and probably 2 in 10 would connect Stewart to the Ducks.

Tennessee has an image and that image is 10x anything the Ducks have ever enjoyed in their history.

Face it, you are the yellow uniform guys. We are the 100,000 seat stadium guys in the best conference in the nation. That's the perception in a nutshell.
 
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