junder13
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For the TL;DR crowd, I apologize in advance. I don't have a shorter way to write this opinion/theory/hypothesis, because it's quite a big one. Thus, it requires I provide as much as I can to justify my stance. Given the length of this series of posts, I'll start with my hypothesis and then follow-up with my thoughts. Read as little or as much as you please.
I'll begin with my list of the UTAD stooges I suspect. In the second post, I'll include the list again for editing purposes, in case there are other VN posters that agree with this theory and want to keep a list of offenders. The posts after that are intended to explain my opinion/stance.
Let me start with Butch Jones hire date, as it turns out to be helpful context in recognizing suspected UTAD stooges on VN: CBJ was announced as the head coach at UT on December 7, 2012.
UTAD Stooges on Volnation
butchna joined Jan 2013; 30k posts in 3 years at a 22.5 posts per day rate; his signature states winning hearts by dominating minds and his occupation shows as internet security; I believe he is the leader of the UTAD group of stooges
glitchenwalter joined Feb 2013; 9k posts at a 6.8 posts a day rate
#1Volfaninmo joined Dec 2012
VolFreakJosh joined Feb 2013 (this is probably the poster I dislike the most on this site, although I've never interacted with him myself -- thankfully)
WilliamDuVol joined Apr 2014
Orangedogsrule joined Jan 2013
ReaderVol joined Aug 2015
Volfan102455 joined Nov 2015
JohnD13 joined Oct 2013
inVOLuntary joined Nov 2012
Vol sanity joined Feb 2013
Its much more than just the suspicious joining date of these individuals. Look at their post history. One of the posts from these individuals often serves two primary purposes: to promote the coaching staff (rather than the program in general) and/or to rebuke any opinion expressed that's negative towards the coaching staff. Often posts from these individuals are uninformative and do not contribute to discussions in a constructive or educational manner. Also, the further you go back in these individuals post history, the more youll realize they have always supported Butch -- seemingly ahead of the football program itself. He did not earn their devotion over the past three seasons. A rational fan may be extremely positive to a new coaching staff as a civic duty as a fan and due to the excitement and enthusiasm a new coaching regime should bring following the down years that lead to a coaching change. But that initial devotion comes with limitations and also must be reinforced over time. That was not the case with the posters above. Additionally, many of these posters make the usual oleaginous comments towards CBJ after something positive happens, instead of the program in general (credit for a commitment -- whether the recruit is highly sought by other top programs or not -- is always lavishly heaped on Jones). Most rational fans have a balance of positivity towards the program and, when due, positivity towards the coaching staff. The UTAD stooges almost always direct their flattery to the coaching staff like the obsequious covert agents they are. Additionally, they defend the staffs at just about all costs, rarely expressing any dissatisfaction or negativity. This occurred in the basketball forum too during the Martin years (but with different posters, not the ones above -- to my knowledge) but I am focusing on football for this effort.
These personas use different methods to police the site and promote uniform and unquestioned positivity towards the staff's philosophies and decisions. Butchna is the enforcer type and he will berate with words and one-sided logic any opposing view, while glitchenwalter uses humorous GIFS to belittle opposing views. Both use internet forum techniques to attempt to sway the masses such as butchna always including emojis and glitchenwalters frequent use of GIFS. Both are widely recognized ways of increasing someones likeability on an internet forum consisting of anonymous posters expressing opinions (humorous GIFS and emojis are the easy basics of getting peer E-approval). Less likeable personas like VolFreakJosh simply bash and dismiss all opinions counter to his own. Despite the different approach, all will argue away any perceived negative against the staff as ultimately not be the fault of the staff, using misdirection, unrelated points of contention, out-of-context statistics, and other team's inadequacies to minimize our own staff's faults. The basic giveaway for a UTAD stooge is this: all positives are overly applauded to the staff while all negatives are not held accountable to the staff, and are justified by just about any means necessary.
There were several other posters I originally suspected beyond the 11 listed above, but over time I began to realize are more likely part of the sheep crowd than covert stooges for the athletic department. Other suspects Ive realized just have a nature of attacking opinions they disagree with but likely are just fans with a limited ability to have a balanced view.
On a somewhat related note, Ron Swanson is the VN persona that represents VQ. He most likely is employed by VQ or works as a third party contractor. Some of the other posters in the past who copy/pasted paysite information and were universally adored on VN likely also had ties to the paid sites, which is what gave them an implicit pass to leek the paysite information to VN. I am fine with this arrangement, as it provides non-subscribers a peek at the intel that normally requires a subscription. However, what I dont like about Ron Swanson (compared to the others in the past like Lord Vader and PassedOutAwake) is his role in attempting to create an online persona for Butch Jones one that, in hindsight, now appears quite ironic. The whole Butch Stones and gay innuendo of CBJ having big balls and other examples of excessive fawning over the staff and homo-erotic comments related to recruiting (likening booming when a recruit commits to climax/orgasm) goes back to Swanson and the other UTAD stooges, in large part. I find the big balls butch comments by these UTAD sycophants to be particularly hilarious, given how CBJ coaches a tight game more like a p**** than any major D1 school Ive watched in recent memory. CBJ more closely resembles the coaching version of a castrato than a baritone. Big Balls Butch. Hahaha, yeah. No one outside of the biggest orange koolaid drinkers would ever associate masculinity with CBJ as a coach, based on his coaching personality.
I'll begin with my list of the UTAD stooges I suspect. In the second post, I'll include the list again for editing purposes, in case there are other VN posters that agree with this theory and want to keep a list of offenders. The posts after that are intended to explain my opinion/stance.
Let me start with Butch Jones hire date, as it turns out to be helpful context in recognizing suspected UTAD stooges on VN: CBJ was announced as the head coach at UT on December 7, 2012.
UTAD Stooges on Volnation
butchna joined Jan 2013; 30k posts in 3 years at a 22.5 posts per day rate; his signature states winning hearts by dominating minds and his occupation shows as internet security; I believe he is the leader of the UTAD group of stooges
glitchenwalter joined Feb 2013; 9k posts at a 6.8 posts a day rate
#1Volfaninmo joined Dec 2012
VolFreakJosh joined Feb 2013 (this is probably the poster I dislike the most on this site, although I've never interacted with him myself -- thankfully)
WilliamDuVol joined Apr 2014
Orangedogsrule joined Jan 2013
ReaderVol joined Aug 2015
Volfan102455 joined Nov 2015
JohnD13 joined Oct 2013
inVOLuntary joined Nov 2012
Vol sanity joined Feb 2013
Its much more than just the suspicious joining date of these individuals. Look at their post history. One of the posts from these individuals often serves two primary purposes: to promote the coaching staff (rather than the program in general) and/or to rebuke any opinion expressed that's negative towards the coaching staff. Often posts from these individuals are uninformative and do not contribute to discussions in a constructive or educational manner. Also, the further you go back in these individuals post history, the more youll realize they have always supported Butch -- seemingly ahead of the football program itself. He did not earn their devotion over the past three seasons. A rational fan may be extremely positive to a new coaching staff as a civic duty as a fan and due to the excitement and enthusiasm a new coaching regime should bring following the down years that lead to a coaching change. But that initial devotion comes with limitations and also must be reinforced over time. That was not the case with the posters above. Additionally, many of these posters make the usual oleaginous comments towards CBJ after something positive happens, instead of the program in general (credit for a commitment -- whether the recruit is highly sought by other top programs or not -- is always lavishly heaped on Jones). Most rational fans have a balance of positivity towards the program and, when due, positivity towards the coaching staff. The UTAD stooges almost always direct their flattery to the coaching staff like the obsequious covert agents they are. Additionally, they defend the staffs at just about all costs, rarely expressing any dissatisfaction or negativity. This occurred in the basketball forum too during the Martin years (but with different posters, not the ones above -- to my knowledge) but I am focusing on football for this effort.
These personas use different methods to police the site and promote uniform and unquestioned positivity towards the staff's philosophies and decisions. Butchna is the enforcer type and he will berate with words and one-sided logic any opposing view, while glitchenwalter uses humorous GIFS to belittle opposing views. Both use internet forum techniques to attempt to sway the masses such as butchna always including emojis and glitchenwalters frequent use of GIFS. Both are widely recognized ways of increasing someones likeability on an internet forum consisting of anonymous posters expressing opinions (humorous GIFS and emojis are the easy basics of getting peer E-approval). Less likeable personas like VolFreakJosh simply bash and dismiss all opinions counter to his own. Despite the different approach, all will argue away any perceived negative against the staff as ultimately not be the fault of the staff, using misdirection, unrelated points of contention, out-of-context statistics, and other team's inadequacies to minimize our own staff's faults. The basic giveaway for a UTAD stooge is this: all positives are overly applauded to the staff while all negatives are not held accountable to the staff, and are justified by just about any means necessary.
There were several other posters I originally suspected beyond the 11 listed above, but over time I began to realize are more likely part of the sheep crowd than covert stooges for the athletic department. Other suspects Ive realized just have a nature of attacking opinions they disagree with but likely are just fans with a limited ability to have a balanced view.
On a somewhat related note, Ron Swanson is the VN persona that represents VQ. He most likely is employed by VQ or works as a third party contractor. Some of the other posters in the past who copy/pasted paysite information and were universally adored on VN likely also had ties to the paid sites, which is what gave them an implicit pass to leek the paysite information to VN. I am fine with this arrangement, as it provides non-subscribers a peek at the intel that normally requires a subscription. However, what I dont like about Ron Swanson (compared to the others in the past like Lord Vader and PassedOutAwake) is his role in attempting to create an online persona for Butch Jones one that, in hindsight, now appears quite ironic. The whole Butch Stones and gay innuendo of CBJ having big balls and other examples of excessive fawning over the staff and homo-erotic comments related to recruiting (likening booming when a recruit commits to climax/orgasm) goes back to Swanson and the other UTAD stooges, in large part. I find the big balls butch comments by these UTAD sycophants to be particularly hilarious, given how CBJ coaches a tight game more like a p**** than any major D1 school Ive watched in recent memory. CBJ more closely resembles the coaching version of a castrato than a baritone. Big Balls Butch. Hahaha, yeah. No one outside of the biggest orange koolaid drinkers would ever associate masculinity with CBJ as a coach, based on his coaching personality.