South Africa votes to confiscate all white owned farmland

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BowlBrother85 said:
If you know anything about Nelson Mandela, this is absolutely ridiculous - even offensive. Mandela rejected the anti-white sentiment of African nationalists such as Nkrumah. In doing so, he synthesized both counter-culture and hegemonic views, for instance by drawing upon ideas from the then-dominant Afrinkaner ("the imagined community") nationalism in promoting his anti-apartheid vision. Mandela was not anti-white. He was anti-apartheid and injustice.
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Well ... What did you expect from him back then, "the night was still young" back then, so to speak ;)
 
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Vol_Doc said:
Is a civil war likely with a white minority?
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There is a possibility. Remote, but those pushed hard enough can and will eventually push back. It all depends on the enforcement of this policy.

It would only take a minor disruption in the output of South African mines to cause a global buying panic and prices to skyrocket.

As for preemptive measures, no, let them do what they want. Their country and we should stay the hell out (as they should stay the hell out of our business). But if the world's commodity market gets turned ass over tip over an insurgency or all out civil war, the world should consider options.
 
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I wonder if there are enough whites left with enough money to hire merc “farm hands”. If so game on!

But I thought most of them saw this coming and left decades ago. I know SA was a popular stopping point for Indians on the way to Europe and North America. And the ones I know a few of which had SA citizenship renounced that with no intent of ever going back.
 
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Grand Vol said:
If it moved into a civil war (unlikely, but the potential is there) such a war could cause serious disruption in the world's strategic mineral prices.

Other than oil, SA pretty much sits on the (no pun intended) gold mine of minerals the modern world needs.

Yes, our interests and well as the other modern nations interests would be threatened over a civil war in South Africa.
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I am of the opinion that a civil war is more likely than not. It may not be whites vs. blacks. I would imagine when they confiscate that much land there will be a fight as to who is entitled to it.

If I was a white guy in SA... I would be planning an exit.
 
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Wow it's true nobody really does give a damn... the Rohingya are Muslims living ...or mostly dying now..in the majority Buddhist country of Myanmar
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
I am of the opinion that a civil war is more likely than not. It may not be whites vs. blacks. I would imagine when they confiscate that much land there will be a fight as to who is entitled to it.

If I was a white guy in SA... I would be planning an exit.
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There might be a tribal civil war fighting over the seized assets, I thought you were talking about a white v black war.
 
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newarkvol said:
Wow it's true nobody really does give a damn... the Rohingya are Muslims living ...or mostly dying now..in the majority Buddhist country of Myanmar
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ah, had it flipped.

read a history book. this is how the world got settled. the big lie is that the "colonizers" were the worst of it.
 
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LouderVol said:
I can't keep all of the atrocities straight, so I figured I could be wrong. the outrage continues to be selective by both sides.
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That's sort of what I was getting at. If this were a different country with different racial or religious composition, I wonder if the outrage would be the same.
 
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LouderVol said:
ah, had it flipped.

read a history book. this is how the world got settled. the big lie is that the "colonizers" were the worst of it.
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The colonialist typically brought stability and infrastructure with them. Few former colonies have really progressed after independence.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
I am of the opinion that a civil war is more likely than not. It may not be whites vs. blacks. I would imagine when they confiscate that much land there will be a fight as to who is entitled to it.

If I was a white guy in SA... I would be planning an exit.
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There's the problem so to speak. When they (white people) were forced out of Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) many emigrated to South Africa where apartheid was still in place. They really didn't lose much so to speak and being a "next door neighbor" didn't hurt matters.

Where do they go now? And furthermore, do they have the money to up and move?
 
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Grand Vol said:
There's the problem so to speak. When they (white people) were forced out of Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) many emigrated to South Africa where apartheid was still in place. They really didn't lose much so to speak and being a "next door neighbor" didn't hurt matters.

Where do they go now? And furthermore, do they have the money to up and move?
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This has been brewing for quite awhile. I hope they've been planning an exit strategy.
 
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Stability?... like arbitrarily drawing lines between ethnic rivals?...as far as economic investment.. the European powers essentially used colonies in Africa and elsewhere as extraction states...ever heard of Leopold II's Congo...yeah read some history...
 
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newarkvol said:
Stability?... like arbitrarily drawing lines between ethnic rivals?...as far as economic investment.. the European powers essentially used colonies in Africa and elsewhere as extraction states...ever heard of Leopold II's Congo...yeah read some history...
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So, it's perfectly fine to reverse history and stick it to those white devils that did it 150 years ago?
 
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newarkvol said:
Wow it's true nobody really does give a damn... the Rohingya are Muslims living ...or mostly dying now..in the majority Buddhist country of Myanmar
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I've read few reports on this. Sounds like it got started from a series of attacks by small Muslim militia groups due to govt restrictions against the Rohingya and the Myanmar govt. forces, supported by Buddhist monks, decided that was enough and started cleaning house. Tensions have been simmering for a while I believe.
 
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hog88 said:
The colonialist typically brought stability and infrastructure with them. Few former colonies have really progressed after independence.
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They brought stability for themselves and those they stayed neatly under their thumb. for the rest and their neighbors? Mass chaos.

the real issue is that once they were gone the locals were hooked on "anything BUT what the colonizer was doing" even if what they were doing worked. so they cut off their noses to spite their collective faces. Contrast that with some of the successful "freedoms" where changes were made to only the things that didn't work.
 
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newarkvol said:
Stability?... like arbitrarily drawing lines between ethnic rivals?...as far as economic investment.. the European powers essentially used colonies in Africa and elsewhere as extraction states...ever heard of Leopold II's Congo...yeah read some history...
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to be fair this exactly what they did with their own people too. and this is what was going on in these regions before hand. its how power works. The only difference is scale and we like to pretend that matters.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
I am of the opinion that a civil war is more likely than not. It may not be whites vs. blacks. I would imagine when they confiscate that much land there will be a fight as to who is entitled to it.

If I was a white guy in SA... I would be buying ARs and .556 as hard as I could go.
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