Special Dispensation to Punch Your Children

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marcusluvsvols said:
I think in order to tax us as married couples they have to confirm who is acually married and who is not. I think God laid out very clearly what marriage is and who is involved. 1 man, 1 woman, and Him. 3 way covenant.

I also think measures to slow the slide our country is taking towards complete self serving, worldy lusts fulfilling, instant gratification seeking depravity are always a good idea. I heard a preacher once say that " if God doesn't burn this whole country to the ground then he probably owes sodom and gomorrha an apology." Lot of truth in that. I don't care what people do in their bedrooms. That's their business. Marriage however is a different ballgame. Its already been defined. Gods definitions don't change with the tides like mans morality does.
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So, your two justifications for this are revenue collection and theocracy?

I see no reason why the government must sanction any marriages. However, it does sanction heterosexual marriages and provides heterosexual married couples with benefits. To not provide these same benefits to homosexual couples is arbitrary and unequal treatment from a non-religious viewpoint.
 
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therealUT said:
So, your two justifications for this are revenue collection and theocracy?

I see no reason why the government must sanction any marriages. However, it does sanction heterosexual marriages and provides heterosexual married couples with benefits. To not provide these same benefits to homosexual couples is arbitrary and unequal treatment from a non-religious viewpoint.
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Preach sir!
 
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Weezer said:
Using "God's" definition of marriage kind of goes against separation of church and state, yes? Call it what you will, but gay couples should be afforded every right that married couples have under the law. "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness", ring any bells? No religious group should be making laws that inhibit the freedoms of others. While you are entitled to your opinion, you are not entitled to enforce your opinion on others. While I consider myself a Christian, I find it concerning that so many other "Christians" feel the need to mettle in the lives of others. Imagine if roles were reversed and someone was trying to dictate your way of life. Live and let live. My religion tells me I'm responsible for my life as other people are responsible for theirs.
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Show me where you find this separation of church and state. I will help you, there is no such thing. How are religious groups making laws when it's the people of NC voting on this law?
 
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volfanjustin said:
Show me where you find this separation of church and state. I will help you, there is no such thing. How are religious groups making laws when it's the people of NC voting on this law?
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So these "people of NC" who are pushing these laws don't comprise religious groups? GTFO

Just more American Taliban BS.
 
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volfanjustin said:
Show me where you find this separation of church and state. I will help you, there is no such thing. How are religious groups making laws when it's the people of NC voting on this law?
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I'll show you separation of C&S when you point out God in the Constitution.
 
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Danl said:
So these "people of NC" who are pushing these laws don't comprise religious groups? GTFO

Just more American Taliban BS.
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My guess is any one registered to vote can vote against it. The people in NC have the right to vote it down.
 
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volfanjustin said:
When did I say God was in the Constitution? Now I will wait patiently for you to show me where this separation is.
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as marcus has pointed out the justification for the discrimination is the bible.

people don't go out to vote on something that will simply continue the current laws. Only people going to vote are the bangers that feel a divine need to discriminate and the gays that wish to marry.
 
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utvolpj said:
as marcus has pointed out the justification for the discrimination is the bible.

people don't go out to vote on something that will simply continue the current laws. Only people going to vote are the bangers that feel a divine need to discriminate and the gays that wish to marry.
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First off if you want to ask Marcus a question maybe you should direct it to him instead of asking me to speak for him.

I hardly see it as discrimination.

I can't understand why all you Pauly's hate the 10th amendment
 
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We've gotta stop passing laws based on fairy tales written down in some really old book.
 
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volfanjustin said:
First off if you want to ask Marcus a question maybe you should direct it to him instead of asking me to speak for him.
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is the bill based on religious beliefs? Pretty simple question that should point to the relevance of my earlier post

volfanjustin said:
I hardly see it as discrimination.
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which is the issue and probably why you think the following applies

volfanjustin said:
I can't understand why all you Pauly's hate the 10th amendment
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volfanjustin said:
First off if you want to ask Marcus a question maybe you should direct it to him instead of asking me to speak for him.

I hardly see it as discrimination.

I can't understand why all you Pauly's hate the 10th amendment
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Is the 10th amendment the one that allows you to infringe on the rights of others, as long as "God" said it was okay? My recollection is fuzzy.
 
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Thrasher865 said:
Is the 10th amendment the one that allows you to infringe on the rights of others, as long as "God" said it was okay? My recollection is fuzzy.
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I figured out the game


  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ScissorsScissors cut paper
  • Paper covers rock
  • Rock crushes lizard
  • Lizard poisons Spock
  • Spock smashes scissors
  • Scissors decapitate lizard
  • Lizard eats paper
  • Paper disproves Spock
  • Spock vaporizes rock
  • Rock crushes scissors
  • Bible smites Constitution
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thine kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven.... Jesus taught us the Lords prayer. He said we should seek to do Gods will on earth. God made it clear that homosexuality is a sin. An abomination against God. He defined marriage, what the roles of a man and a woman are...to leave your parents and cleave to your spouse. To love and honor one another. Man and wife.

When I choose to exercise my freedom to vote, and to protect Gods will for the covenant of marriage; that doesn't make me a homophobe. Also doesn't make me hateful, angry, or judgmental. It just makes me something increasingly rare in these last days... loyal and dedicated to my savior. He who kneels before God can stand before any man. I don't judge you bro. Don't judge me.
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Do you believe in Free Will?

Same sex marrige is something that I personally do not agree with but if other choose to be in a same sex relationship, it is their choice to do so.

I agree per the Bible homosexuality is a sin.

Do you think it is more of a sin than :

Fornication
Adultry
Rape
Murder


Is homosexuality more of an abomination than the things listed in the Bible that the Lord hates ?

Provers 6: 16-19

There are six things which the Lord hates,

Yes, seven which are an abomination to Him:

Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, And hands that shed innocent blood,

A heart that devises wicked plans, Feet that run rapidly to evil,

A false witness who utters lies,

And one who spreads strife among brothers.


I do not understand why some Christians pick homosexuality and dwell on it as if it were the king of all sins. IMO, it is wrong but in the eyes of God it is no more of a sin than any other.




Do you think a homosexual is going to a different hell than those that commit other sins?
 
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Thrasher865 said:
Is the 10th amendment the one that allows you to infringe on the rights of others, as long as "God" said it was okay? My recollection is fuzzy.
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I don't doubt your recollection is fuzzy, so here I will help you

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
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Weezer said:
Using "God's" definition of marriage kind of goes against separation of church and state, yes? Call it what you will, but gay couples should be afforded every right that married couples have under the law. "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness", ring any bells? No religious group should be making laws that inhibit the freedoms of others. While you are entitled to your opinion, you are not entitled to enforce your opinion on others. While I consider myself a Christian, I find it concerning that so many other "Christians" feel the need to mettle in the lives of others. Imagine if roles were reversed and someone was trying to dictate your way of life. Live and let live. My religion tells me I'm responsible for my life as other people are responsible for theirs.
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Oh really? The Consitution lays it out pretty clearly that the opinion of the majority rules.
 
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hog88 said:
Oh really? The Consitution lays it out pretty clearly that the opinion of the majority rules.
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:blink:

:lol:

So the majority of people in the US are Christian. That means nobody is allowed to express any beliefs other than Christianity, and all social behavior must be condoned by the Bible. Got it.
 
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volfanjustin said:
First off if you want to ask Marcus a question maybe you should direct it to him instead of asking me to speak for him.

I hardly see it as discrimination.

I can't understand why all you Pauly's hate the 10th amendment
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We love the 10th amendment, we just don't want it to be used for evil.
 
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hog88 said:
Oh really? The Consitution lays it out pretty clearly that the opinion of the majority rules.
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What?

Article and section? The law rules, because we are a republic. The law often reflects majority opinion, but the majority is not what actually rules.
 
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n_huffhines said:
What?

Article and section? The law rules, because we are a republic. The law often reflects majority opinion, but the majority is not what actually rules.
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The constitution clearly lays out the proccedure to change/amend the document, which takes a majority vote (opinion), 3/4 of the states to ratify. So in reality the opinion of the majority rules.

I really don't give a dam^ about homosexuals, they can do whith each other as they please. I do not think they should be able to marry, you are opening pandora's box. If homosexuals can marry then why can't a person have more than 1 wife/husband, why can't a brother-sister marry or mom-son ext ext?
 
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hog88 said:
I really don't give a dam^ about homosexuals, they can do whith each other as they please. I do not think they should be able to marry, you are opening pandora's box. If homosexuals can marry then why can't a person have more than 1 wife/husband, why can't a brother-sister marry or mom-son ext ext?
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Good question. Why not? Would not bother me a bit. Why does it bother you?
 
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