Spectrum vs. Disney -- A Development Tracking Thread

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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
There's already an ESPN app that lets you stream things to your phone. Not ESPN+ programs, but normal ESPN stuff...... so giving Charter access to regular ESPN is nothing, not a concession by Disney.

Disney is planning to spin ESPN, NORMAL ESPN, into a pay-per-view or plan based or some kind of revenue stream other than selling it to cable companies and streaming companies.

Why else would "direct-to-consumer" be a thing. You can already get regular ESPN on your phone. The press release SPECIFICALLY says "which is separate from ESPN+" meaning Disney is going to market what we now get free and Charter wants to be able to sell it too.
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All that is correct. I guess I didn't get what you meant. From this:

"that it's not going to be "direct-to-consumer" unless you stream?".

I thought you were expecting direct to consumer to mean something other than streaming.

From this deal it looks like Charter will get to maintain access to the new app like they have with WatchESPN, in with their packages. I'm not sure they were going to get that before. With Disney doing a direct to consumer app, WatchESPN will likely sunset at some point.
 
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JCHateSteve said:
All that is correct. I guess I didn't get what you meant. From this:

"that it's not going to be "direct-to-consumer" unless you stream?".

I thought you were expecting direct to consumer to mean something other than streaming.

From this deal it looks like Charter will get to maintain access to the new app like they have with WatchESPN, in with their packages. I'm not sure they were going to get that before. With Disney doing a direct to consumer app, WatchESPN will likely sunset at some point.
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Yeah, I'm not clear on what Disney "gave up" there other than not cutting Charter out.

I just found the release saying essentially Charter will be able to provide Disney's ESPN "direct to consumer" service impossible. If it's bundled in your cable, it's not direct to consumer.

Maybe Charter is finally dropping coax completely and going to just stream? I just don't think (and it's been years since I've had cable) you can get "apps" on coax. That may not be true anymore.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Yeah, I'm not clear on what Disney "gave up" there other than not cutting Charter out.

I just found the release saying essentially Charter will be able to provide Disney's ESPN "direct to consumer" service impossible. If it's bundled in your cable, it's not direct to consumer.

Maybe Charter is finally dropping coax completely and going to just stream? I just don't think (and it's been years since I've had cable) you can get "apps" on coax. That may not be true anymore.
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I take it to mean you'll be able to log into the new ESPN app with your Charger login instead of paying Disney directly. It's not going to be a on your cable box. Basically it'll be like WatchESPN, but you can pay Disney directly and not need a cable provider to access it. Could be Disney was going to cut the cable companies out of streaming.
 
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Who signed up for a streaming service during the outage and which one are you going to keep, Spectrum or the streaming service? I signed up for YouTube TV over the weekend. I'm leaning towards keeping it and dropping Spectrum.
 
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theroyz71 said:
Who signed up for a streaming service during the outage and which one are you going to keep, Spectrum or the streaming service? I signed up for YouTube TV over the weekend. I'm leaning towards keeping it and dropping Spectrum.
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Spectrum sent me an email advising me to look into Fubo while things get sorted out. I bundled internet/cell and TV to save bucks. Now they want me to spring for another service while they haggle with disney? Wonder if they'll let me terminate their TV service and keep the discounted cell/internet while their battle rages? The answer to that was a quick "no" but they are "proud to be standing up to disney and their unreasonable demands". :mad::mad:
 
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JCHateSteve said:
I take it to mean you'll be able to log into the new ESPN app with your Charger login instead of paying Disney directly. It's not going to be a on your cable box. Basically it'll be like WatchESPN, but you can pay Disney directly and not need a cable provider to access it. Could be Disney was going to cut the cable companies out of streaming.
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That's just not "direct to consumer" if I'm paying Charter instead of Disney for ESPN.

Basically Disney is saying: if you want to keep ESPN, do the accounting for us and send us a check.

Unless Charter is getting a discount but the laws are such that whatever deal Charter gets, all the other CABLE providers get. I doubt Disney did that. So it looks like Charter is doing the paperwork for a chunk of subscribers for Disney to me.
 
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When I go to the FX channel Spectrum now has a message that says "this channel is no longer available but in the coming months Disney+ will be included in the TV select packages at no additional cost". Now we will wait and see if they jack up our monthly costs.

Have already decided Youtube tv is my backup plan. Was actually going to pull the trigger on Spectrum this week but will wait on the future cost.
 
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volfanhill said:
Disney got what it wanted

"Under the terms of the agreement, Charter has agreed to higher rates for Disney’s channels in return for being able to provide the Disney+ and ESPN+ streaming services to its pay-TV subscribers."

And Charter got what it wanted:

"In addition, when Disney releases its much-anticipated direct-to-consumer version of its ESPN cable channel—which is separate from ESPN+—Charter pay-TV customers will be able to get it as well."
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Sounds more like Charter got what they wanted. Charter had already said they'd pay the fee Disney wanted but they wanted Disney+ included, if DTC ESPN is part of the package for customers that's definitely a win for Charter
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
That's just not "direct to consumer" if I'm paying Charter instead of Disney for ESPN.

Basically Disney is saying: if you want to keep ESPN, do the accounting for us and send us a check.

Unless Charter is getting a discount but the laws are such that whatever deal Charter gets, all the other CABLE providers get. I doubt Disney did that. So it looks like Charter is doing the paperwork for a chunk of subscribers for Disney to me.
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You don't have to pay Charter though. You can pay Disney directly no matter who your provider is. It's primarily a direct to consumer app. But Charter will be carving a chunk of it off with that access. It's not really a concession, unless Disney was going to cut the cable companies off from streaming (no idea if they were). The main concession will be access to Disney+ and ESPN+ in Charter packages. They didn't have that before.
 
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Can someone please dumb this down for me? We have Spectrum for everything, so if I was able to watch all the games before will that be the case going forward or do I need to jump through flaming hoops?
 
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CAVPUT said:
Spectrum sent me an email advising me to look into Fubo while things get sorted out. I bundled internet/cell and TV to save bucks. Now they want me to spring for another service while they haggle with disney? Wonder if they'll let me terminate their TV service and keep the discounted cell/internet while their battle rages? The answer to that was a quick "no" but they are "proud to be standing up to disney and their unreasonable demands". :mad::mad:
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The dispute has been settled. ESPN has been restored to Spectrum customers.
 
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Noni said:
Can someone please dumb this down for me? We have Spectrum for everything, so if I was able to watch all the games before will that be the case going forward or do I need to jump through flaming hoops?
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I'm trying to make sense of this too. My Spectrum subscription currently gets me ESPN and ESPN2. Am I now going to get ESPN+ as well?
 
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Sea Ray said:
I'm trying to make sense of this too. My Spectrum subscription currently gets me ESPN and ESPN2. Am I now going to get ESPN+ as well?
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Possibly. It depends on if you are the right package. Not familiar enough with Charters current TV packages to say for sure. You'll possibily Disney+ as well.
 
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Noni said:
Can someone please dumb this down for me? We have Spectrum for everything, so if I was able to watch all the games before will that be the case going forward or do I need to jump through flaming hoops?
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Should be the same. You might add access to streaming services if you have the right package. Disney/charter are doing away with some channels. But none are sports related.
 
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JCHateSteve said:
Possibly. It depends on if you are the right package. Not familiar enough with Charters current TV packages to say for sure. You'll possibily Disney+ as well.
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Yep, I have Select Plus. So I will get those two plus whatever ESPN streaming service they're talking about but I know Spectrum will charge me for it in new increases.

Anyone who purchases Spectrum TV Select Plus will get the basic version of Disney+ included in their package. Spectrum TV Select Plus customers will also get ESPN+ and ESPN's standalone streaming service, which hasn't launched yet.
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Disney and Charter Communications strike deal, ending blackout for Spectrum cable customers

New deal means Spectrum cable customers will soon regain access to ESPN and other Disney-owned channels.
www.cbsnews.com
 
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Congratulations to Spectrum and Charter customers. I know it has been very frustrating, but now your getting the whole Disney/ESPN streaming included with you deal! Great for y'all!
 
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JCHateSteve said:
Should be the same. You might add access to streaming services if you have the right package. Disney/charter are doing away with some channels. But none are sports related.
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Thank you sir. I just want to be able to watch my UT games. A simple woman with simple needs!
 
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JCHateSteve said:
After watching the game tonight, I feel like it wasn't worth all the effort folks put into get to see it.
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I guess. If it was your first time using technology or SECN/ESPN+. Took me all of 8 seconds to launch the app, select the game, and cast to TV.
 
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volfan102455 said:
I am hoping it has ended though - YouTube TV is NOT cheaper if I get the channels I would have with Spectrum. I looked at FuBo which has the channels I want and it is the same price.

I don't know where you folks are getting that these other channels are cheaper. They are not for the same content. They all are very much the same cost.
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And you’re not living 2 minutes behind.
 
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