Spectrum vs. Disney -- A Development Tracking Thread

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Chris Winfrey just announced that all services are back. hopefully all is right in the world again.
 
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Dadof2Vols said:
I bet it will be weeks. There are many stations which have not returned to providers over carriage fee disputes and some have been going on for an extended period of time.



You assume that Disney has been negotiating in good faith and wants this settled. With the money they are losing, I think you are making a bad assumption.
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It sure wasn't weeks. This is just a couple of huge corporations negotiating over billions of dollars. A week later we're back to "normal"
 
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Sea Ray said:
It sure wasn't weeks. This is just a couple of huge corporations negotiating over billions of dollars. A week later we're back to "normal"
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From reading the press release, Disney realized how serious Charter was and in my opinion Disney lost the battle and will lose the war if the other providers follow the Charter playbook.
 
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Dadof2Vols said:
From reading the press release, Disney realized how serious Charter was and in my opinion Disney lost the battle and will lose the war if the other providers follow the Charter playbook.
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I think Disney saw that Spectrum was serious about moving on. They didn't give Spectrum exactly what they wanted but sounds like if you're a Spectrum user, you'll be able to get D+ at a reduced rate
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
If you don't mind, I'm curious (nosey really) about the immediate changes in your channel lineup or what "this is new with XXX plan" messages Charter sends out.

I'm wondering if they're going to spin it as a win.
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www.hollywoodreporter.com

Disney and Spectrum Cut New Carriage Deal, Ending Blackout and Returning ESPN and ABC to Lineups

Disney's channels had been blocked for Spectrum customers since Aug. 31, and will return just in time for 'Monday Night Football'
www.hollywoodreporter.com www.hollywoodreporter.com

Losing freeform, nat Geo wild and FXX.
None of the sports channels
 
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vols 30 said:
www.hollywoodreporter.com

Disney and Spectrum Cut New Carriage Deal, Ending Blackout and Returning ESPN and ABC to Lineups

Disney's channels had been blocked for Spectrum customers since Aug. 31, and will return just in time for 'Monday Night Football'
www.hollywoodreporter.com www.hollywoodreporter.com

Losing freeform, nat Geo wild and FXX.
None of the sports channels
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These writers are so poor, it's hard to make sense of what's written:

There will, however, be significant changes to Disney’s channel offerings. Under the new deal, Freeform, Disney Junior, Disney XD, FXX, and Nat Geo Wild, among other cable channels, will no longer be carried by Spectrum, which instead will focus on the core ESPN networks, FX, Nat Geo and Disney Junior channels, as well as ABC stations.
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Disney Junior is mentioned as a channel they're keeping and as one they're cutting
 
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Disney got what it wanted

"Under the terms of the agreement, Charter has agreed to higher rates for Disney’s channels in return for being able to provide the Disney+ and ESPN+ streaming services to its pay-TV subscribers."

And Charter got what it wanted:

"In addition, when Disney releases its much-anticipated direct-to-consumer version of its ESPN cable channel—which is separate from ESPN+—Charter pay-TV customers will be able to get it as well."
 
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volfanhill said:
Disney got what it wanted

"Under the terms of the agreement, Charter has agreed to higher rates for Disney’s channels in return for being able to provide the Disney+ and ESPN+ streaming services to its pay-TV subscribers."

And Charter got what it wanted:

"In addition, when Disney releases its much-anticipated direct-to-consumer version of its ESPN cable channel—which is separate from ESPN+—Charter pay-TV customers will be able to get it as well."
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I'm confused by that last bit.

"direct-to-consumer" and "Charter pay-TV customers will be able to get it as well" seems to say, since Disney legally can't make a "sweetheart deal" with just Charter or other cable providers, that it's not going to be "direct-to-consumer" unless you stream?
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I'm confused by that last bit.

"direct-to-consumer" and "Charter pay-TV customers will be able to get it as well" seems to say, since Disney legally can't make a "sweetheart deal" with just Charter or other cable providers, that it's not going to be "direct-to-consumer" unless you stream?
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It means charter customers will be able use this new product from Espn without paying additional fees
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I'm confused by that last bit.

"direct-to-consumer" and "Charter pay-TV customers will be able to get it as well" seems to say, since Disney legally can't make a "sweetheart deal" with just Charter or other cable providers, that it's not going to be "direct-to-consumer" unless you stream?
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Direct to consumer means streaming. How else would they deliver it?
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
You pay ESPN/Disney for the app instead of getting it via Hulu, YT TV, Fubo, etc. Basically, an ESPN app that ISN'T free, like it is now, but is like its own Fubo app you have to sign up for, pick your plan, etc.
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I would assume it'll be an app similar to Disney plus. It'll likely be one monthly rate for all the ESPN networks and on demand offerings. But from the sound of it you may be able to log into it with a Spectrum login and not have to pay Disney directly if you have the right package. AT&T had a similar deal with HBOMax for a bit. But it'll almost definitely be a streaming app.
 
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Both Disney and Charter "renewed their commitment to lead the industry in mitigating the effects of unauthorized password sharing.”

I started off saying that if I had a side in this fight, it was Charter, and I meant that - but let this little part of their PR statement be a lesson that, at the end of the day, no matter who does or says what, all of these major corporations are a rotten steaming pile of half-digested refried beans whose porcelain due date got pushed up by a nasty case of hemorrhoids.
 
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JCHateSteve said:
Direct to consumer means streaming. How else would they deliver it?
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There's already an ESPN app that lets you stream things to your phone. Not ESPN+ programs, but normal ESPN stuff...... so giving Charter access to regular ESPN is nothing, not a concession by Disney.

Disney is planning to spin ESPN, NORMAL ESPN, into a pay-per-view or plan based or some kind of revenue stream other than selling it to cable companies and streaming companies.

Why else would "direct-to-consumer" be a thing. You can already get regular ESPN on your phone. The press release SPECIFICALLY says "which is separate from ESPN+" meaning Disney is going to market what we now get free and Charter wants to be able to sell it too.
 
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JCHateSteve said:
I would assume it'll be an app similar to Disney plus. It'll likely be one monthly rate for all the ESPN networks and on demand offerings. But from the sound of it you may be able to log into it with a Spectrum login and not have to pay Disney directly if you have the right package. AT&T had a similar deal with HBOMax for a bit. But it'll almost definitely be a streaming app.
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Well, they're saying Charter will be able to have it. Is Charter CABLE offering apps now?
 
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Voltopia said:
Both Disney and Charter "renewed their commitment to lead the industry in mitigating the effects of unauthorized password sharing.”

I started off saying that if I had a side in this fight, it was Charter, and I meant that - but let this little part of their PR statement be a lesson that, at the end of the day, no matter who does or says what, all of these major corporations are a rotten steaming pile of half-digested refried beans whose porcelain due date got pushed up by a nasty case of hemorrhoids.
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All of the companies have this now. The streaming companies I looked at allow 'out of home' but the device had to log into the 'home' network at least once a month.

What the heck with the double quote above?!?!?! How do I stop that from happening! Never mind it only shows up for me! LOL
 
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