Spreading Islam the Obama way.

#27
#27
Headed For Home said:
Apparently you are missing the entire article. The issue is the idea that a government entity would be in the business of providing a religious based loan to any one. If this were a Christian initiative that was being highlighted; you, Milo and a couple of others would have calved by now.

As for the quip about being taken seriously, are you really questioning the accuracy of the report or are you just being a jerk?

Oh never mind I know the answer to that one.:)
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I read the article that was linked from the extremely biased blog you linked. This loan is available to all people right? If so how is it wrong? It appears to me to be a way for the city to make more money. If you can possibly step away from your muslim fear for a second and explain what is wrong with the actual loan?
 
#28
#28
utvolpj said:
I read the article that was linked from the extremely biased blog you linked. This loan is available to all people right? If so how is it wrong? It appears to me to be a way for the city to make more money. If you can possibly step away from your muslim fear for a second and explain what is wrong with the actual loan?
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The issue is that this is a loan program at least partially funded by the government body that is structured specifically to adhere to sharia law. This is a blatant move to favor the Muslim.

I do not care if there is a private business that wants to structure their loans that way. That is not the case here. As GS has asked earlier in this thread, where do we draw the line? We have judges who now want to draw from sharia law in their decisions. There are local agencies all over the country who are feeling pressure to accommodate the Muslim belief structure. In many cases this pressure pushes against the liberties we treasure.

If having the Ten Commandments hanging on the courthouse wall is too offensive then the activists should show an equal amount of disdain when presented with the government showing this kind of pandering to the Muslim.
 
#29
#29
So there's nothing wrong with the loan except that Muslims will be using it? That is the only difference between it and other loans available

Trying to equate it to the "discrimination" of Christians is ridiculous
 
#31
#31
utvolpj said:
So there's nothing wrong with the loan except that Muslims will be using it? That is the only difference between it and other loans available

Trying to equate it to the "discrimination" of Christians is ridiculous
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Are you really that dense? Several times the real issue has been lined out for you. Keep your head in the sand if you want. The Christian faith has systematically been removed from our government agencies to appease those who were "offended". Now our government agencies are welcoming more and more aspects of the Muslim faith.

Keep in mind that what is not in your back yard today likely will be in the future. The advancement of sharia law in for instance Detroit may not seem very important today, but if it is allowed to fester there other communities will be affected.
 
#36
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utvolpj said:
I read the article that was linked from the extremely biased blog you linked. This loan is available to all people right? If so how is it wrong? It appears to me to be a way for the city to make more money. If you can possibly step away from your muslim fear for a second and explain what is wrong with the actual loan?
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Fair enough, can you step away from your fear of being politically incorrect enough to look at the worldwide big picture of renewed islamic jihad?

Example:

People of Shambhala: Maldives: Muslim hardliners smashes Buddhist statues in national museum

On the same day as the Maldives President resigned, after a coup by police, Islamic hardliners burst into the national museum and smashed Buddhist statues.

Police spokesman Ahmed Shiyam told police that “A mob entered the museum yesterday (Tuesday). They smashed many statues. This included some statues of Buddha," reports Al Arabiya News.

Former President, Mohamed Nasheed, blamed the attack on hardliner Muslims.

There has been a debate for some weeks over statues in the Maldives. Several that had been gifted to the nation from Sri Lanka, Pakistan, and other nations, were denounced by extremists as "idolatry," and as unacceptable to Islam. The statues were removed from public view after protests.

After being forced to resign yesterday, Nasheed's Democratic Party headquarters was also reportedly smashed up by a mob, and a member of the party was killed.

The destruction of the Buddha statues suggest that Islamic hardliners are intent on establishing sharia as the state law of the Maldives.
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utvolpj said:
So there's nothing wrong with the loan except that Muslims will be using it? That is the only difference between it and other loans available

Trying to equate it to the "discrimination" of Christians is ridiculous
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Well how do you feel about Obama spending billions building and/or refurbishing mosques on a worldwide basis?

Can you name one dime he has spent on a Christian church?

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KiffinKiller said:
there's judges who want people to be stoned, etc , etc
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And there are judges that want to be stoned, hence the retrial for the torturer/murderers in the Christian/Newsom case.



milohimself said:
I herd it givs u a rash
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It's a fungus of the brain and you are et up with it.

Give you a herd mentality, I've heard.
 
#40
#40
golfballs03 said:
Obama's doing a good job. I'm thinking about making the switch!
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Shouldn't that post be in one of the gay threads? :)

On national prayer day General Boykin was scheduled to speak at West Point.

Atheist and muslim activist groups complained so much that Boykin stepped aside to keep the Army from having to ask him not to speak to avoid bad press.

Something is screwed up about all that.




golfballs03 said:
blocked at my office :(
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If you google 'creeping sharia' they have a link that allows you to read the articles without it being blocked.





milohimself said:
I also heard gsvol passes the time by taking leaks on copies of the constitution.
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I think you may have me confused with Barack Hussein Obama.
 
#44
#44
milohimself said:
I'm pretty sure only one of you openly called for banishment of a religion.
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Here is exactly what I posted on that:

Islam is not a religion. It’s a theocratic political system,
which is a system where the religious law governs civil
society as well and where the supreme government is
its clergy. It is a rival political system and cannot
coexist with democracy and the US Constution.

It’s time to declare Islam a rival political system and
get it out of this country.

There is precedent for this. Remember, Mormonism
is a syncretist religion dreamed up by a “prophet”
like Mohammed, and was originally planned to be a
theocracy, that is, a society ruled by clergy and
governed by religious law established by its founder.

The US decided this could not coexist with the US
system, and the Mormons (who had been very
aggressive and violent) backed down and accepted
US law and set their religious practices apart,
abandoning those that conflicted with our law,
such as polygamy and their own theocratic court
system.
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Today though we have atheistic liberal judges that rule that state laws banning islamic theocratic laws are unconstitutional.

That's absurd, there is nothing at all unconstitutional about specifically banning any other law that unconstitutional to begin with.





DinkinFlicka said:
Creeping Sharia is srs bzns, guyz.

Creeping Sharia! Oh noez!


Seriously though, gs, and I'll ask this in a civil manner as to not irk you...

What logic is in the claim that Islam and atheists are in league with one another?
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Muslims, Atheists Pressure Military to Remove Christian Speaker | FOX News & Commentary: Todd Starnes

However, Boykin became a target for atheists and Muslim groups. They launched a campaign to force the military to remove the retired lieutenant general from the West Point prayer event.

“Mr. Boykin’s intolerant views do a disservice to our nation’s longstanding traditions of religious freedom and pluralism and could potentially harm our country’s interests and the security of our troops overseas,” Nihad Awad, executive director of the...
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Boykin's views are far less intollerant than those groups who opposed him.

It is illogical and unrealistic to say otherwise.

Socialists from Hitler (who was joined at the hip with fundamental islamists in WWII) on, have courted the islamic world in order to attempt to bring down western governments particularly the constitutional republic of the USA.
 
#45
#45
still no answer on what is wrong with these particular loans? Not like I expected one but would have been a nice surprise
 
#46
#46
utvolpj said:
still no answer on what is wrong with these particular loans? Not like I expected one but would have been a nice surprise
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Reposting the same question even though you have been answered repeatedly does nothing to help your intellectual image.
 
#47
#47
Headed For Home said:
Reposting the same question even though you have been answered repeatedly does nothing to help your intellectual image.
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I'm not really worried about my "intellectual image" and I was actually asking gsvol since he avoids answering any direct questions. You've already shown you only have an issue with the people using the loan and have no valid arguments against the loan itself
 
#48
#48
utvolpj said:
I'm not really worried about my "intellectual image" and I was actually asking gsvol since he avoids answering any direct questions. You've already shown you only have an issue with the people using the loan and have no valid arguments against the loan itself
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You don't read very well.
 
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