Spreading Islam the Obama way.

#51
#51
Headed For Home said:
You don't read very well.
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I like to think I do but appreciate the criticism

take out the Muslim piece and explain what is wrong with a fixed rate loan that incorporates the interest into the payments upfront? Are they paying any less because of their religion? What is wrong with a loan program that allows more people to take advantage of it?
 
#52
#52
utvolpj said:
I like to think I do but appreciate the criticism

take out the Muslim piece and explain what is wrong with a fixed rate loan that incorporates the interest into the payments upfront? What is wrong with a loan program that allows more people to take advantage of it?
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I have no problem with the loan structure. In fact it would seem to me to be a good idea for banks to offer a similar product everywhere.

The problem is that the loan is specifically written to satisfy Muslim religious laws and funded by the government. I do not care if a bank chooses to produce the type of loan without government involvement.
 
#53
#53
Headed For Home said:
The problem is that the loan is specifically written to satisfy Muslim religious laws and funded by the government. I do not care if a bank chooses to produce the type of loan without government involvement.
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if it were limited to Muslims only then you would have a valid point. Why it was written that way doesn't matter except to a few
 
#56
#56
utvolpj said:
if it were limited to Muslims only then you would have a valid point. Why it was written that way doesn't matter except to a few
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what are your views on the posting of the ten Commandments at the courthouse? How about the tradition of prayer before ballgames? The teaching of the Ten Commandments in school?
 
#59
#59
Headed For Home said:
what are your views on the posting of the ten Commandments at the courthouse? How about the tradition of prayer before ballgames? The teaching of the Ten Commandments in school?
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why is any of that necessary?

courthouse- don't care but it has nothing to do with law and is needless decoration

ballgame- I'm respectful during but don't see any reason for it. The UTAD is not state-funded so not really an issue

in school- I'm fine with it once the students have learned all the math, science, history, English, etc that they possibly can
 
#63
#63
utvolpj said:
why is any of that necessary?

courthouse- don't care but it has nothing to do with law and is needless decoration

ballgame- I'm respectful during but don't see any reason for it. The UTAD is not state-funded so not really an issue

in school- I'm fine with it once the students have learned all the math, science, history, English, etc that they possibly can
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So am I right in saying that you place this loan issue in the same exact category as these. Essentially indifferent?
 
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#67
Headed For Home said:
So am I right in saying that you place this loan issue in the same exact category as these. Essentially indifferent?
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I wouldn't say I'm indifferent but I just realize not everyone is alike and has a right to enjoy their life as they see fit. In this case a loan was created to entice new customers but is still available to all. The fact that is allows people of a certain faith to take advantage of it is of no consequence

When I have to recite the 10 commandments to be sworn in or my child is forced to praise Jesus before a test then I will start to speak up. Until then it's just outrage because people have nothing better to do than attach a label and attack it
 
#68
#68
I've avoided this thread but just wanted to point out that we make accommodations for a host of ethnic and religious groups in this country. When was the last protest against Amish, Orthodox Jews, Crow Indians, Samoans, Christian Scientists, Hmongs, Scientologists, etc?
 
#69
#69
YorkVol said:
I've avoided this thread but just wanted to point out that we make accommodations for a host of ethnic and religious groups in this country. When was the last protest against Amish, Orthodox Jews, Crow Indians, Samoans, Christian Scientists, Hmongs, Scientologists, etc?
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the day before creeping sharia .org was created.
 
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#71
side note: happy valentines day everyone. Make your ladies happy because Steak and BJ day is on March 14.
 
#72
#72
KiffinKiller said:
side note: happy valentines day everyone. Make your ladies happy because Steak and BJ day is on March 14.
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Happy Saint Valentine's Day to you too sweetie pie. :)

Valentine

Muslim morality police ruined Valentine’s Day for dozens of lovers in Malaysia early Tuesday by rousting them from their love nests and chasing them out of public parks.

At least five couples — all unmarried, all Muslim— were dragged out of no-tell motel rooms in the capital city of Kuala Lumpur, the BBC reported.

Dozens more lovers in the capital and in the city of Selangor were busted by the snoop squads in the bushes for violating khalwat, which is an Islamic law that forbids an unmarried Muslim from being alone with someone of the opposite sex.

If convicted, the shamed lovers face up to two years in prison.

Nearly two-thirds of Malaysia’s people are Muslim and the country’s Islamic authorities in 2005 issued a fatwa against Valentine’s Day.
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In Uzbekistan, a police state run by strongman Islam Karimov, there were no hearts or chocolates of flowers for anybody.

Declaring it “alien to our culture,” kill-joy Karimov’s minions cancelled Valentine’s Day altogether.

Instead, Karimov insisted that his countrymen celebrate the first Mogul emperor Babur, a national hero and a descendant of Genghis Khan who is famous for lopping off the heads of enemies and stacking them in columns.
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You know what, none of those lovers in Malaysia ever had a choice in the matter, since they were unfortunate enough to have been born into a moslem family, they have no other choice except to remain a moslem under penalty of death, that is the sharia law that so many of you seem so willing to embrace and defend. :loco:







YorkVol said:
I've avoided this thread but just wanted to point out that we make accommodations for a host of ethnic and religious groups in this country. When was the last protest against Amish, Orthodox Jews, Crow Indians, Samoans, Christian Scientists, Hmongs, Scientologists, etc?
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OK, say that Reagan or some other president spent a billion of our tax money to restore Christian Churches in Europe, or rebuild Churches that have been destroyed anywhere islam has grown to be dominant?

Would that not be front page news and would there not be and outcry from the ACLU, moslem groups and everyine else about this being a violation of specific laws?

What if we even attempted to restore the over 200 churches destroyed in Kosovo in the last fifteen years?

Some of those are over 700 years old, are they not heritage sites?

What about the (at least) six churches burned down in Egypt since the onset of the Arab (moslem) Spring?

What about the chruches destroyed in Ethiopia by moslems?

I can't believe some of you people.

What if we tore down some of the mosques that were built on the foundations of churches they destroyed and rebuilt churches there?
 
#73
#73
why do we need to rebuild churches that are not within our borders? If those people want to build them, I'm fine with helping.
 
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