Stallings on Finebaum (Texas to PAC 10)

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#26
As long as Texas and OK go into the Bama LSU group and we stay out of it I'm cool with that. Bad enough we have to get through Bama, Georgia, Fl every year.
 
#27
#27
Teeman said:
It's all about TV markets and $. For example, PAC 10 commish is a businessman. He has West Coast market, now Denver market, AZ market, and is looking to expand into TX. We should have seen this coming. College football has been all business for awhile now.
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I lived in Cali for a while and maybe they got the market but they don't drop everything their doing on Saturday to make sure they're watching the game. Over here in the South, you grandma could have died at 11am and daddy would be telling mama what's another 5 hours going to do if we wait to call the coroner.

Grandma's die but SEC football is forever!
 
#28
#28
I could see Auburn moving to the East in this scenario. God, that'd be awesome. At least 'Bama would have to beat ONE good team in their division that isn't coached by Les Miles.
 
#29
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Ihatethebuckeyes said:
I lived in Cali for a while and maybe they got the market but they don't drop everything their doing on Saturday to make sure they're watching the game. Over here in the South, you grandma could have died at 11am and daddy would be telling mama what's another 5 hours going to do if we wait to call the coroner.

Grandma's die but SEC football is forever!
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You are exactly right. That's why the PAC 10 or 16 feels the need to expand. SEC the best and the Big 10 second with the Big 10 Network. I am not sure how expanding the SEC would be better though. The conference already has the markets covered, EXCEPT for TX and maybe Miami. Unless, having more teams would lead to a better package deal.
 
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#30
#30
Volfan8282 said:
Why on earth do we as UT fans want to bring in Texas and Oklahoma?
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If you want to be the best, you've got to beat the best.

Neyland Law Vol said:
This.

none of this expansion talk is good for Tennessee. I could care less about the preception of the SEC, as long as my Vols are winning. I would rather go back to the 90's when the SEC was down and TN was dominating.
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Maybe we should leave the SEC and join CUSA. Would that make you happy. I say bring on the competition.
 
#31
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Ihatethebuckeyes said:
I lived in Cali for a while and maybe they got the market but they don't drop everything their doing on Saturday to make sure they're watching the game. Over here in the South, you grandma could have died at 11am and daddy would be telling mama what's another 5 hours going to do if we wait to call the coroner.

Grandma's die but SEC football is forever!
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agreed
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#32
#32
SEC WEST.... TEXAS, OKLAHOMA, TEXAS A&M, LSU, ARKANSAS, OLE MISS, MISS STATE, OKLAHOMA STATE


SEC EAST.... ALABAMA, AUBURN, FLORIDA, GEORGIA, TENNESSEE, SOUTH CAROLINA, VANDY, KENTUCKY

That would be one heck of a conference!
 
#33
#33
Silly question but if we let other teams into the SEC our future schedules will mean nothing, right? We would have to reschedule from 2014 (whenever this is supposed to take effect) on...
 
#34
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Va Vol Fan said:
Besides, who cares what Texas wants. They couldn't handle SEC football!
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I know you're just being positive, but Texas would do just fine in the SEC. You have to recruit top notch year in and year out to compete at the top of the SEC, and the Horns can do that without even leaving the state.

Oklahoma and TA&M would both have tougher times with the jump in competition, but they'd still be competitive. Remember, SEC teams are only given a one loss handicap for the competition they face.
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
If you want to be the best, you've got to beat the best.
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If we're able to beat Alabama, Florida, Georgia, a tough non-conference opponent, and LSU/Auburn on occassion in the same season, then I'm happy with that. Sorry that I don't want to add another "Florida" or "Bama" to the mix.
 
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Outdors21 said:
This would be the coup of coups if true.

I still don't think A+M and Texas are splitting though.
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I live here in Houston
it is a VERY real possibility they split

it all boils down to the SEC's TV deal is equally split
in Big 12 it is divided by who is on tv the most. Texas is/was always on A&M not so much

so Texas with Pac-10 same deal
A&M will make more under equal cut method. in SEC

I know it is hard to believe but it is all about dollars...sarcasim
 
#37
#37
My husband is a Texas grad and is not real happy about any of this re-alignment. However, he still seems to think Texas and A&M are a pkg deal wherever they go, because of the state regents, the legislature, endowments, etc. Personally, I don't care who goes where, I'm only concerned how it will all affect the Vols.
 
#38
#38
Outdors21 said:
This would be the coup of coups if true.

I still don't think A+M and Texas are splitting though.
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Texas doesn't want to split, they' re worried about aTm getting better recruits if they join the SEC. aTm wants to prove their not Texas' biotches. teaxas wants aTm, but aTm does not care what Texas does. I think Brown is scared to death of the schedule week in and week out. With aTm joining the SEC they have a chance to be bigger than Texas imo. Remember, Miami was once bigger than Florida. How many people would tune into to watch aTm and LSU. That once was a huge rivalry. Oklahoma and Alabama would be another good one, if this is all true.
 
#39
#39
I want Texas, just so we can settle the infamous "Real UT" controversy once and for all!
 
#40
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Volfan8282 said:
If we're able to beat Alabama, Florida, Georgia, a tough non-conference opponent, and LSU/Auburn on occassion in the same season, then I'm happy with that. Sorry that I don't want to add another "Florida" or "Bama" to the mix.
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Yeah, this is what I'm saying as well...

If you've got an SEC that includes:
Texas
Florida
Oklahoma
Bama
Miami
FSU
LSU/Auburn
UGA
Tennessee

I mean, gimme a break already. Whoever wins the SEC should just automatically be crowned the national champion. No need to have any bowl games or BCS championship, period.

Any given normal year and that list right there is 6 of the Top 10 teams in the entire country.

So..... Penn State, for example, gets to the NC game without having to run near the gauntlet that the SEC champ did?

That's horseshiznit... except that the presidents probably don't care since the $$$ will still be there (actually, more $$$).

Does the average fan care about how much money the(ir) university makes? Hell no. We all want to see the crystal football in Tennessee's trophy case.

Right?
 
#41
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tango said:
Yeah, this is what I'm saying as well...

If you've got an SEC that includes:
Texas
Florida
Oklahoma
Bama
Miami
FSU
LSU/Auburn
UGA
Tennessee

I mean, gimme a break already. Whoever wins the SEC should just automatically be crowned the national champion. No need to have any bowl games or BCS championship, period.

Any given normal year and that list right there is 6 of the Top 10 teams in the entire country.

So..... Penn State, for example, gets to the NC game without having to run near the gauntlet that the SEC champ did?

That's horseshiznit... except that the presidents probably don't care since the $$$ will still be there (actually, more $$$).

Does the average fan care about how much money the(ir) university makes? Hell no. We all want to see the crystal football in Tennessee's trophy case.

Right?
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That's why I think the main focus in SEC expansion shouldn't be the powerhouse football programs, but well-rounded athletic programs in general that bring new markets.

Adding GT, Clemson, FSU, and Miami adds another murderer's row of conference games, and adds little to the SEC in other sports and new TV markets.

Adding A&M, UNC, Duke, and Mizzou/Kansas/Baylor brings in middle-of-the-pack football programs BUT also brings in EXCELLENT basketball programs.

Increase the footprint of the SEC, not the football competition. We'd never have an undefeated champion from the SEC again if we add a handful of other stellar football teams on top of 'Bama, UT, Florida, UGA, LSU, and Auburn.
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
If you want to be the best, you've got to beat the best.


Maybe we should leave the SEC and join CUSA. Would that make you happy. I say bring on the competition.
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Yeah I mean we wouldnt play Texas and OK every year. It would be a rotating system just like now. OK is already on the future schedule.
 
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Neyland Law Vol said:
This.

none of this expansion talk is good for Tennessee. I could care less about the preception of the SEC, as long as my Vols are winning. I would rather go back to the
90's when the SEC was down and TN was dominating.
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The SEC won three national titles in the 90's and played in 4 national title games possibly five if you count the Tennessee -Nebraska game. I wouldn't call that down, we just have ESPN pimping us now and then they were pimping the Big Ten.
 
#45
#45
If we are going to do the expansion, I think A&M and Oklahoma would be a good way to go. I know it would make the SEC that much tougher, but it would be fun having so many big games in a year. With that kind of competion, there might even be a chance for a 2 loss team to have a chance at playing for the BCSC. I know LSU did it several years ago, but I'm talking about on a consistent basis. An undefeated season will be basically impossible.
 
#46
#46
TitanHope said:
I know you're just being positive, but Texas would do just fine in the SEC. You have to recruit top notch year in and year out to compete at the top of the SEC, and the Horns can do that without even leaving the state.

Oklahoma and TA&M would both have tougher times with the jump in competition, but they'd still be competitive. Remember, SEC teams are only given a one loss handicap for the competition they face.
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If you think Texas would do well in the SEC but OU would struggle, you might want to check out the last 10 Big 12 champions. See who's got most of those.
 
#47
#47
MTSUDaff said:
Texas won't be forced by anyone. Everyone WANTS Texas. Texas is the #1 brand of college athletics. Texas to the PAC-10 is essentially a done deal because that is what Texas wants to do.

Texas A&M to the SEC is because they are tired of being made to look like they are just piggy-backing Texas anywhere they go. On top of that, they are a big time revenue school, which the SEC will gladly accept. I hope it happens.
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I agree. aTm would be the better pick up for the SEC.
 
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#48
hatvol96 said:
If you think Texas would do well in the SEC but OU would struggle, you might want to check out the last 10 Big 12 champions. See who's got most of those.
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If Texas joins the SEC, it will be the beginning of the end for Mack Brown. It will be like Fulmer going from coaching against Ray Goof and Sparky Woods to Meyer, Saban, etc.
 
#49
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LawVol13 said:
If Texas joins the SEC, it will be the beginning of the end for Mack Brown. It will be like Fulmer going from coaching against Ray Goof and Sparky Woods to Meyer, Saban, etc.
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That's not a bad point but Texas is still going to have the state of Texas to recruit from. On that same note, the rest of the SEC would get more exposure in Texas as well.
 
#50
#50
IF OU and A&M came to the SEC, it would hurt Texas.
I would love to see this happen.
 
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