Star Wars: Episode VII (December 18, 2015) ***SPOILERS***

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volfan_89 said:
Maybe because he was living in the shadow of his grandfather struggling with staying on the path to the dark side. He's supposed to be an angsty young adult and he played it perfectly imo.
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Not to mention being a whiny, angsty young adult is pretty much a tradition in his family. Anakin certainly was and Luke was as well.
 
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northknoxvol said:
My brother had an interesting theory. Luke and Capt. Phasma had Rey....and when all his pupils got murdered he assumed that phasma and rey were killed as well. With all the hate that would come from exacting revenge he had to go into exile for fear of being consumed with the Dark Side. Phasma escaped the massacre with rey and left her on the planet with the scavenger. Then she infiltrated the first order to keep an eye on them and to keep them away from finding Rey.
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Odd pairing considering Phasma is over a half a foot taller than Luke.
 
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northknoxvol said:
My brother had an interesting theory. Luke and Capt. Phasma had Rey....and when all his pupils got murdered he assumed that phasma and rey were killed as well. With all the hate that would come from exacting revenge he had to go into exile for fear of being consumed with the Dark Side. Phasma escaped the massacre with rey and left her on the planet with the scavenger. Then she infiltrated the first order to keep an eye on them and to keep them away from finding Rey.
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That would be interesting
 
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I watched the prequel trilogy this week (I think I watched them once before about 10 years ago) with my 8 year old and I thought they were pretty good. Maybe that's because I'm not a Star Wars nerd and my entire knowledge of the Star Wars universe is in the 7 films I've seen. Or maybe it is because I see so many fanboys talking about how awful they were.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
I watched the prequel trilogy this week (I think I watched them once before about 10 years ago) with my 8 year old and I thought they were pretty good. Maybe that's because I'm not a Star Wars nerd and my entire knowledge of the Star Wars universe is in the 7 films I've seen. Or maybe it is because I see so many fanboys talking about how awful they were.
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..Or maybe your terrible at judging terrible movies? :hi:
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
..Or maybe your terrible at judging terrible movies? :hi:
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I think it is a combination of several things.

I didn't nitpick it to death. There is an excitement surrounding star wars right now, so that may have made me like it more than I really should. My expectations were really low because all you ever here is how bad they are.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
I watched the prequel trilogy this week (I think I watched them once before about 10 years ago) with my 8 year old and I thought they were pretty good. Maybe that's because I'm not a Star Wars nerd and my entire knowledge of the Star Wars universe is in the 7 films I've seen. Or maybe it is because I see so many fanboys talking about how awful they were.
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- Dialogue that even Samuel L. Jackson, Ewan McGregor, Christopher Lee, Natalie Portman, and Liam Neeson couldn't make sound believable.
- Terrible acting by young and old Anakin
- Fart/Poop jokes
- Jar Jar Binks and Boss Nass
- Too much reliance on CGI/CGI that hasn't aged well
- Vader saying "Noooooooooo!"
- No chemistry between Anakin and Ewan (I felt like Finn and Poe had a better bromance in 5 minutes of screen time together)
- No chemistry between Anakin and Padme
- Killed the best bad guy in the first one then shoehorned in Dooku and Grievous
- boring politics
- overly choreographed light saber duels

That's all I can think of off the top of my head

The original and special editions of the OT had some annoying things too though, but nowhere near as bad as the prequels.

- Ewoks set RotJ back from greatness for me
- the Cantina song and dance routine in the special edition RotJ makes me cringe
- Han shot first
- showing Jabba in Ep 4 ruined the mystery revealed in Ep 6
 
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BigZiti09 said:
I watched the prequel trilogy this week (I think I watched them once before about 10 years ago) with my 8 year old and I thought they were pretty good. Maybe that's because I'm not a Star Wars nerd and my entire knowledge of the Star Wars universe is in the 7 films I've seen. Or maybe it is because I see so many fanboys talking about how awful they were.
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I will say the prequels probably get bashed a bit more than they should; so I don't really fault someone saying they like them.

But there a ton of problems with them that the originals and Episode 7 don't have. Most have to do with Lucas' stubbornness and refusal to listen to anyone else.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
I will say the prequels probably get bashed a bit more than they should; so I don't really fault someone saying they like them.

But there a ton of problems with them that the originals and Episode 7 don't have. Most have to do with Lucas' stubbornness and refusal to listen to anyone else.
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Oh no. They deserve the bashing. They're bad, very very bad.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
I will say the prequels probably get bashed a bit more than they should; so I don't really fault someone saying they like them.

But there a ton of problems with them that the originals and Episode 7 don't have. Most have to do with Lucas' stubbornness and refusal to listen to anyone else.
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I was listening to a podcast of archived interviews with Lucas last week. He was discussing his career as a whole, not just SW, and he made a point to say he didn't like others telling him how to make his films.

From an artistic stand point I can appreciate his stance on that. However, he created something that became bigger than him and kind of took on a life of its own. He should have brought more opinions to the brainstorming sessions and not just yes men.

There is some behind the scenes footage of Lucas screening TPM for the first time and you can tell he is initially concerned about some choices he made but his entourage just pats him on the back and rah rahs everything he does.

This has 7 parts and some of it is tongue in cheek but explains a lot that is wrong with TPM....

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI[/youtube]
 
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Yeah I've seen some of the footage of his entourage of yes men and women praising everything he did.

He's also done interviews where he's basically flat out said he didn't understand the criticisms of the prequels.
 
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G0 BIG 0RANGE said:
- Dialogue that even Samuel L. Jackson, Ewan McGregor, Christopher Lee, Natalie Portman, and Liam Neeson couldn't make sound believable.
- Terrible acting by young and old Anakin
- Fart/Poop jokes
- Jar Jar Binks and Boss Nass
- Too much reliance on CGI/CGI that hasn't aged well
- Vader saying "Noooooooooo!"
- No chemistry between Anakin and Ewan (I felt like Finn and Poe had a better bromance in 5 minutes of screen time together)
- No chemistry between Anakin and Padme
- Killed the best bad guy in the first one then shoehorned in Dooku and Grievous
- boring politics
- overly choreographed light saber duels

That's all I can think of off the top of my head

The original and special editions of the OT had some annoying things too though, but nowhere near as bad as the prequels.

- Ewoks set RotJ back from greatness for me
- the Cantina song and dance routine in the special edition RotJ makes me cringe
- Han shot first
- showing Jabba in Ep 4 ruined the mystery revealed in Ep 6
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Imagine seeing the original version and thinking this is Jabba:

 
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New spoiler theory I ran across today


It has to do with supreme leader Snoke. There's a theory going around that he is Darth Palagueis. He found out how to make himself immortal before Darth Sidious attacked him. He created Anakin and has been orchestrating everything that's happened. His theme is very similar to the music played when Palpatine tells Anakin about him. And here's a side view of him and Sidious.
 

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volfan_89 said:
New spoiler theory I ran across today


It has to do with supreme leader Snoke. There's a theory going around that he is Darth Palagueis. He found out how to make himself immortal before Darth Sidious attacked him. He created Anakin and has been orchestrating everything that's happened. His theme is very similar to the music played when Palpatine tells Anakin about him. And here's a side view of him and Sidious.
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That one is the one I am basically following. The one about JarJar being a Sith is probably my favorite conspiracy of all time, though.
 
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volfan_89 said:
New spoiler theory I ran across today


It has to do with supreme leader Snoke. There's a theory going around that he is Darth Palagueis. He found out how to make himself immortal before Darth Sidious attacked him. He created Anakin and has been orchestrating everything that's happened. His theme is very similar to the music played when Palpatine tells Anakin about him. And here's a side view of him and Sidious.
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I hope they don't do any flashbacks. I think Rey's vision was good but straight up flashbacks wouldn't work in SW, iyam.
 
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volfan_89 said:
New spoiler theory I ran across today


It has to do with supreme leader Snoke. There's a theory going around that he is Darth Palagueis. He found out how to make himself immortal before Darth Sidious attacked him. He created Anakin and has been orchestrating everything that's happened. His theme is very similar to the music played when Palpatine tells Anakin about him. And here's a side view of him and Sidious.
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Don't forget "The Supreme Leader is wise". Palpatine called him "Darth Plagueis the Wise".
 
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Paper_Towel said:
That one is the one I am basically following. The one about JarJar being a Sith is probably my favorite conspiracy of all time, though.
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I think it's pretty hilarious, in an most absolute evil sort of way. It would big the biggest troll job ever. It's the single most evil theory I've ever heard. I'd rage quit Star Wars if that happened. But I could've seen George Lucas trying something like that.
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
I was under the impression he was in the original theatrical release, hence why the scene is shot with Han saying "Jabba, you're a wonderful human being."
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From what I remember, Lucas shot the scene but couldn't get the effect of Jabba to look right so he scrapped it.
 
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For some mindless entertainment, I recommend Mark Hamill's twitter feed the past couple of days. It started out with him replying to a tweet asking if an autographed picture of him on an auction site was legit. From there he started authenticating his signatures on cards, pictures and posters that people would tweet to him.

The bonus is reading his reaction to some of the things he signed on the star wars cards back in the day. He seems to have a really wicked sense of humor. Funny stuff.
 
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