Stoops is busy talking down the SEC again this week

[Rooster1]

We will find out Saturday how much work our young Vols has ahead of them.

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[james_govols]

Cuz he was telling the truth everytime.

The BCS sucked. They changed it.

He said the SEC wasn't great, beat Alabama, and the SEC string of national titles is gone.

He whined about running up the score because its bad sportsmanship! What do you not get about that part?

Whining? Maybe trying to help guide the sport we love into a better game.

What do you not get about me calling him a whiner when you admit that he whined about it?

 

[gonzagafan62]

I admitted it, yes. But what do you not get that its STUPID to run up the score if you were winning by 50, but the computers and the talking heads would love it if say you beat #17 Texas Tech by 60?

Its completely understandable. He didn't wanna run up the score, but to impress the voters and computers you had to do it. He didn't like it. Whats wrong with that?

 

[onevolfan]

While we're posting articles about OK, I came across this one. CBJ should post this one for the team to see. Oh, and SIAP, but I didn't see it anywhere.
Columbia Daily Herald

 

[Spartacavolus]

How can you prove that?

Answer me this, if the SEC was so "tough" why did Missouri win the East last year, and why has TX A&M had so much success?

The Defenses in the SEC aren't "that much" better. They are better and the SEC in my eyes is better than the BigXII but its not by an overwhelming margin.

Oklahoma was killing Missouri and TX A&M and everyone in the SEC struggling against them.

Who would compare Aggies pre sumlin to sumlin/manziel, and assume previous years games mean anything about their sec schedule?
UT played 5 top 10 teams in 6 weeks last year, iirc. When you have to do that, you have an argument.

 

[gonzagafan62]

Who would compare Aggies pre sumlin to sumlin/manziel, and assume previous years games mean anything about their sec schedule?
UT played 5 top 10 teams in 6 weeks last year, iirc. When you have to do that, you have an argument.

Who would compare them? Someone smart. They were preparing their Aggies for a date in the Big XII. And their teams still look like Big XII teams. Lots of offense, no defense.

Yet the aggies are still winning lots of games.

 

[99gator]

How can you prove that?

Answer me this, if the SEC was so "tough" why did Missouri win the East last year, and why has TX A&M had so much success?

The Defenses in the SEC aren't "that much" better. They are better and the SEC in my eyes is better than the BigXII but its not by an overwhelming margin.

Oklahoma was killing Missouri and TX A&M and everyone in the SEC struggling against them.

They used to beat up on Baylor too.

Coaches and qb's can make a big difference.

Texas A&M would be doing serious damage in the big XII right now

 

[JohnMarxism]

While we're posting articles about OK, I came across this one. CBJ should post this one for the team to see. Oh, and SIAP, but I didn't see it anywhere.
Columbia Daily Herald

Not a bad article at all. I like how the author balanced Stoops' SEC gulf claims by showing the very same gulf in the Big 12. I can't wait for Saturday night.

 

[Spartacavolus]

Yeah, franchione and Sherman were just as dynamic as Sumlin and his heisman trophy winner.

 

[vol_sec]

Wish we could time warp a team from our glory days on the field to shut Bob's damn mouth. As it stands, this will be one of the toughest match ups of the season.

He was defensive coordinator at UF from 96-98, so he has seen some good UT teams.

The SEC has 8 teams ranked on rivals top 25 currently for 2015 and last year had 9 top 25 teams with 3 of the top 5 being SEC schools. Last year 7 SEC teams were ranked ahead of Oklahoma with USCe and Kentucky right behind them. Also the SEC has won 7 of the last 8 MNCs. So there is no getting around the SEC is the dominant conference no matter how you spin it. There are great non-SEC teams of course, but the SEC is loaded.

 

[BigTXVolFan]

Not gonna lie, I am a bit concerned Stoops may try and prove a point against us as an "SEC" team. May not take his foot off the gas in a statement game. Just a thought, still expect the Vols to compete but a 17 pt loss isn't far fetched.

 

[vol_sec]

Not gonna lie, I am a bit concerned Stoops may try and prove a point against us as an "SEC" team. May not take his foot off the gas in a statement game. Just a thought, still expect the Vols to compete but a 17 pt loss isn't far fetched.

Yeah that is exactly what he is going to do if we let him.

 

[CroKev]

When it comes to the SEC, Stoops has a good memory when it comes to lass season's bowl win but seems to have forgotten the bowl game the year before (got trounced by Texas A&M 41-13) and their last appearance in the national championship game (their heralded offense got stuffed up by Florida 24-14). :hi:

 

[Crazy Ivan]

How can you prove that?

Answer me this, if the SEC was so "tough" why did Missouri win the East last year, and why has TX A&M had so much success?

The Defenses in the SEC aren't "that much" better. They are better and the SEC in my eyes is better than the BigXII but its not by an overwhelming margin.

Oklahoma was killing Missouri and TX A&M and everyone in the SEC struggling against them.[/I]

Ummm...no. Since '08, OU is only 3-2 against Mizzou. TAMU and OU don't play every year, but since '08 OU is only 2-1 against the aggies, and Stoops was only 1-1 against them in '11 and '12. And of course, Sumlin and Manziel destroyed the sooners the only time the 2 schools have played since TAMU joined the SEC.

 

[butchna]

stoops doesnt have much ill will towards Jones and his staff. His SEC hate is really towards Saban, Miles and all those guys. I think he respects Jones alot. What Butch is doing is the same thing that Stoops had to do at OU. Bob Stoops is aware of that.

"Bob Stoops likes peanut butter"

 

[james_govols]

I admitted it, yes. But what do you not get that its STUPID to run up the score if you were winning by 50, but the computers and the talking heads would love it if say you beat #17 Texas Tech by 60?

Its completely understandable. He didn't wanna run up the score, but to impress the voters and computers you had to do it. He didn't like it. Whats wrong with that?

Where did you get the idea that I was okay with running up the score? I was making a point that Stoops whines about everything. My personal opinions on the BCS, running up the score, or the SEC were never made.

 

[sjt18]

OU is one of a few programs around the country that could compete well in the SEC. However the thing he hates and can't deny is that the quality of his team will always be questioned because of the competition he faces in the Big 12.

OU needs to come on over along with Va Tech or someone like that. To be the best... you have to beat the best.

 

[butchna]

Not gonna lie, I am a bit concerned Stoops may try and prove a point against us as an "SEC" team. May not take his foot off the gas in a statement game. Just a thought, still expect the Vols to compete but a 17 pt loss isn't far fetched.

Excuse me sir? You dropped your vagina. hmy:

 

[james_govols]

Excuse me sir? You dropped your vagina. hmy:

Mangina.

 

[TXA&M07]

Stoops enjoys a little attention now and then and as the flagship of that conference, he's undoubtedly beginning to feel a little more entitled. That being said, I'm certain that those members of the Big12 applaud his efforts in toeing the company line. After all, "they play each other"!

The play in Lawrence Kansas, Ames Iowa, Ft. Worth Texas, Austin Texas, and Morgantown West Virginia. A.K.A. Murderers Row.

 

[ALLVOL24/7/365]

Stoops enjoys a little attention now and then and as the flagship of that conference, he's undoubtedly beginning to feel a little more entitled. That being said, I'm certain that those members of the Big12 applaud his efforts in toeing the company line. After all, "they play each other"!

The play in Lawrence Kansas, Ames Iowa, Ft. Worth Texas, Austin Texas, and Morgantown West Virginia. A.K.A. Murderers Row.

LMAO!!!!!! Yep nothing strikes fear in a team like going to Lawrence KS and having to play the EATING Charlie Weis'.

 

[DERELICK_MY_VOLS]

OU has a winning record against the SEC - and that's not counting their games against A&M and Missouri...

I'd love for us to beat them and all things are possible, but I think were still a year or two away from having the horses and the depth needed to play with the elite (and that's where Stoops has Oklahoma)...

OU is one of a few programs around the country that could compete well in the SEC. However the thing he hates and can't deny is that the quality of his team will always be questioned because of the competition he faces in the Big 12.

OU needs to come on over along with Va Tech or someone like that. To be the best... you have to beat the best.

SEC Bowl Games under Stoops:

W 10–3 January 1, 2002 2001 Arkansas Cotton Bowl

L 14–21 January 4, 2004 2003 LSU Sugar Bowl

L 14–24 January 8, 2009 2008 Florida BCS Nat'l Champ Game

L 13–41 January 4, 2013 2012 Texas A&M Cotton Bowl

W 45–31 January 2, 2014 2013 Alabama Sugar Bowl

Regular Season vs SEC with Stoops:

9/7/02 Alabama@ Norman Won 37-27

9/6/03 Sooners @ Alabama Won 20-13

Bob Stoops has an ego issue IMHO with his image in the eye of the coaching world. His only solid SEC victory was against last years Alabama. I will not defend Bama for choking because they played the game...lost and that is what they did....Oklahoma gave it to them. Stoops has defeated an Arkansas Houston Nutt coached team and Alabama 3 times and the 2003 team OU was #1 in the country while Bama barely won 4 games that year and slipped out a win 20-13. He has won a lot of games and is a solid coach no doubt but he has had some embarrassing losses on the national stage outside of the SEC too....

Pete Carroll's Trojans blew them off the field for a Nat'l Championship 55-19 in the Orange Bowl....which I was pulling for them all the way in.
Boise State's comical yet beautifully executed trick plays to beat his Sooners 43-42 in the Fiesta Bowl.
Kevin Sumlin's 1st season at Texas A&M and was pimp smacked them 41-13.
The Fiesta Bowl in 2007 when West Virginia romped them 48-28.

The point is....the man has won and won a lot. But his mighty Sooners have had some bad public appearances on the main stage....in SEC verbage they have looked very Mark Richt-esque/Georgia-ish when in the spot light with all the pieces to win it all...on paper.

 

[TXA&M07]

Its just his MO and some of their fans, not all but some, buy in to it.

Your program's merit as a SEC powerhouse changes to suit his agenda. If in fact he wins Saturday, you'll be the toughest team in the East in his opinion. Its just the way it goes and has gone for a long, long time.

 

[IBlvNTmWrk]

I admitted it, yes. But what do you not get that its STUPID to run up the score if you were winning by 50, but the computers and the talking heads would love it if say you beat #17 Texas Tech by 60?

Its completely understandable. He didn't wanna run up the score, but to impress the voters and computers you had to do it. He didn't like it. Whats wrong with that?

But Honey... I really didn't want to sleep with that beautiful, younger woman, but to impress my friends I had to do it. That's okay right???

 

[volfansince88]

I have to admit that(here we go) 40-45 years ago Oklahoma was one of my favorite teams. They were fun to watch on offense and always had great defenses.The OKU-Nebraska Thanksgiving game was must see. This was of course before cable and a a hundred games on every week. You usually had two, sometimes three games on each Saturday and a Sunday highlight show that showed some of the big games of the week.
I only mention that to say that back then football was pure and most times if you wanted to see your team play, you went to the game. Now, everyone can dvr all the games they want to and watch them at their leisure. Since Stoops has been their coach, I couldn't give a rats a$$ about OKU or Ohio St. or USC. Just watch a game to pull against them. GO VOLS!