Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA)

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Google likely can't afford to do it, due to advertising contracts and the like. Nobody expected them to shut down- the anti-SOPA message on their homepage is about all they really can do. They're still a business.
 
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rockytop9808 said:
Google likely can't afford to do it, due to advertising contracts and the like. Nobody expected them to shut down- the anti-SOPA message on their homepage is about all they really can do. They're still a business.
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Still , considering it's one of the most visited URLs in the entire world, even putting a black block over the logo will make hundreds of millions look into it.

I applaud that move even more than Wiki's.
 
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milohimself said:
lulz.

Also, a nice bit, my senator Rony Wyden will engage in the most epic filibuster ever if this reaches the senate. He's planning on reading the names of each person in the country who has signed the petition against SOPA/PIPA on the senate floor.
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:eek:lol:

Mother of God, that would hinder its progress for oh, 50 years?
 
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allvol123 said:
No sh&t. Weakest attempt at a protest possible.
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So what do you want them to do?

Violate their advertising contracts? Shut down all of their servers for mail, calendars, documents, phone services, etc. that schools and businesses use every day as part of their normal function?

They've ended up doing as much or more for awareness as Wikipedia, reddit, and Craigslist.
 
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rockytop9808 said:
So what do you want them to do?

Violate their advertising contracts? Shut down all of their servers for mail, calendars, documents, phone services, etc. that schools and businesses use every day as part of their normal function?

They've ended up doing as much or more for awareness as Wikipedia, reddit, and Craigslist.
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That is up to them but a black patch is hardly a protest.
 
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rockytop9808 said:
So what do you want them to do?

Violate their advertising contracts? Shut down all of their servers for mail, calendars, documents, phone services, etc. that schools and businesses use every day as part of their normal function?

They've ended up doing as much or more for awareness as Wikipedia, reddit, and Craigslist.
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It would have been nice if they redirected every search to a petition to sign against SOPA; one would have to sign or actually decline to sign the petition to move forward. Google could have done the same for sending emails, updating calendars, etc.
 
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rockytop9808 said:
It's an awareness-raising action that has done more than its fair share. If you expected them to do any different, you're woefully ignorant.
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It is woefully ignorant to believe the option taken is the only/best option available. trUT gave examples of things to do. I would imagine some of Google's brightest brainstorming in a room for 1 hour could do better than a black patch.
 
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allvol123 said:
It is woefully ignorant to believe the option taken is the only/best option available. trUT gave examples of things to do. I would imagine some of Google's brightest brainstorming in a room for 1 hour could do better than a black patch.
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Why should they?

As I said, the two largest social networks out there are completely flooded with their link. They've done what they felt they needed to do. Neither you nor I are involved in their decision making.

Expecting things out of a business is dumb, especially when they actually went out of their way (no matter how small) to achieve this end.
 
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rockytop9808 said:
Why should they?

As I said, the two largest social networks out there are completely flooded with their link. They've done what they felt they needed to do. Neither you nor I are involved in their decision making.

Expecting things out of a business is dumb, especially when they actually went out of their way (no matter how small) to achieve this end.
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I never said they should but they chose to take interest in it. I didn't tell them to but they decided to and I don't think their path to success has evolved around half assed mediocre attempts at anything.
 
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allvol123 said:
I never said they should but they chose to take interest in it. I didn't tell them to but they decided to and I don't think their path to success has evolved around half assed mediocre attempts at anything.
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And their effort is far from a half-assed mediocre attempt to raise awareness. What good would it have done to do more? Everyone who uses their services is seeing the bar and likely clicking it.
 
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rockytop9808 said:
And their effort is far from a half-assed mediocre attempt to raise awareness.
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Really? I disagree. I used Google and Craigslist today, I'll let you guess as to which site I actually viewed something regarding this issue. Unless the issue is about black patches.
 
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allvol123 said:
Really? I disagree. I used Google and Craigslist today, I'll let you guess as to which site I actually viewed something regarding this issue. Unless the issue is about black patches.
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So you're saying you intentionally avoided the link because you knew what was behind it?
 
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rockytop9808 said:
So you're saying you intentionally avoided the link because you knew what was behind it?
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I'm saying it was a lackluster attempt at joining the protest on their most visible page. Their banner is some new design/art/etc. almost everyday. I guarantee there were people that saw it, paid no attention to it and kept right on Googling.
 
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allvol123 said:
I'm saying it was a lackluster attempt at joining the protest on their most visible page. Their banner is some new design/art/etc. almost everyday. I guarantee there were people that saw it, paid no attention to it and kept right on Googling.
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And I also bet those people get on Facebook and see the plethora of links to Google's page anyway.

Their action has been cited more by my peers than the Wikipedia and Craigslist blackouts. It's been just as effective as the blackouts. Arguing that "they could have done more" is pointless, both because they didn't and because they had no obligation or need to.
 
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rockytop9808 said:
And I also bet those people get on Facebook and see the plethora of links to Google's page anyway.

Their action has been cited more by my peers than the Wikipedia and Craigslist blackouts. It's been just as effective as the blackouts. Arguing that "they could have done more" is pointless, both because they didn't and because they had no obligation or need to.
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Where did I say they were obligated to anything? Someone made a reference to their protest, someone else said it essentially was weak as hell and I agreed. You're right, it is inconceivable that they could have done more. Again, the driver behind things like Google, Apple, etc is certainly "know your limits and don't attempt anything remotely beyond that."
 
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