Student Suspended For Removing Mexican Flag

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Cash Vallin said:
i agree, the situation wasn't handled correctly based on the pathetic story that gave little to no details without even an acknowledgement of trying to contact the school by the people that produced the article. it was obvious, there was an agenda.

journalism 101, get both sides of the story. something that news organizations suck at now days.
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Do you think the school baited the student by not responding to the situation?
 
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BeecherVol said:
Do you think the school baited the student by not responding to the situation?
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i don't know... not enough details... wouldn't surprise me either way.

kids can be bastards at that age. there's no way they can please everybody in a high school at the same time.
 
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Cash Vallin said:
and to your second point... i'm by far more of a social liberal with issues that I flat out will not change when it comes to treating people equally (true or not, again not trying to start another debate). if a libertarian made it into office, I wouldn't care, despite their economic conservative approach.
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Of course, there's no problem with some people paying zero taxes and others handing over half of what they make. No equality issue there.
 
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Cash Vallin said:
lack of reform, allowing the private sector to go unregulated despite obvious flaws, etc... again, i can deal with that if everybody is socially equal. if you're socially equal, everything else can and will take care of itself.
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Yeah, if only conservatives had desired to reform Fannie and Freddie. Oh crap, that happened. Well, surely now after the recession things will get fixed. Oh crap, it's been brought up again and shut down by democrats.
 
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#588
Cash Vallin said:
i don't know... not enough details... wouldn't surprise me either way.

kids can be bastards at that age. there's no way they can please everybody in a high school at the same time.
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I agree, the details to this point are sketchy.

But assuming that what is out is correct, the school pissed away the chance to diffuse the problem, assuming they really wanted to. Thats why I posed the question.

As to the bold.
Not to keep stir the pot, but an American flag should not produce the same results. We have all come together under that flag, from all corners of the world. Everybody here legally can be proud of that, at the same time.
 
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And that is not to say you can't be proud of your past, and even show your pride. I think we have passed that extreme.
 
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BeecherVol said:
I agree, the details to this point are sketchy.

But assuming that what is out is correct, the school pissed away the chance to diffuse the problem, assuming they really wanted to. Thats why I posed the question.

As to the bold.
Not to keep stir the pot, but an American flag should not produce the same results. We have all come together under that flag, from all corners of the world. Everybody here legally can be proud of that, at the same time.
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i can agree with that.
 
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Bottom line. Both sides of the spectrum need to settle down ab the whole deal. (not the flag) Both sides have good arguments and bad arguments. There are looney, racists right wing extremist, and there are looney, facsist left wing extremist. Neither side is entirely right, nor wrong.
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Orangekush423 said:
Bottom line. Both sides of the spectrum need to settle down ab the whole deal. (not the flag) Both sides have good arguments and bad arguments. There are looney, racists right wing extremist, and there are looney, facsist left wing extremist. Neither side is entirely right, nor wrong.
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Yes, it's complex. Rational discussion rather than emotional rhetoric would go a long way in coming up with a solution the majority can live with. Unfortunately, that isn't America's style politically lately.
 
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IPorange said:
Yes, it's complex. Rational discussion rather than emotional rhetoric would go a long way in coming up with a solution the majority can live with. Unfortunately, that isn't America's style politically lately.
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Is sending every congressman home feasible? I wish: Term limits would be a great place to start.
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Orangekush423 said:
Is sending every congressman home feasible? I wish: Term limits would be a great place to start.
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I have mixed feelings on term limits. In effect, we can limit any candidates term right now. We're just choosing not to. Limiting terms is one state meddling with the political options of another. Doesn't seem right. If we as Americans don't like incumbents, quit putting them back in office.

In essence, I also don't like who we've got. I am not sure that term limits are very democratic, though. The ridiculous nature of congress is a DIRECT reflection of the voters.
 
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IPorange said:
I have mixed feelings on term limits. In effect, we can limit any candidates term right now. We're just choosing not to. Limiting terms is one state meddling with the political options of another. Doesn't seem right. If we as Americans don't like incumbents, quit putting them back in office.

In essence, I also don't like who we've got. I am not sure that term limits are very democratic, though. The ridiculous nature of congress is a DIRECT reflection of the voters.
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Good point. Question- how do educate Americans? Many are clueless.
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