Stupid At This Level Has No Party

#126
#126
PaulieWalnuts said:
Yes, but can you hurry up and get to the part where this affects me personally, in any way whatsoever, in my everyday life?
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Services government provides become more expensive which you pay for through direct taxation, the hidden tax called inflation, or debt passed onto your children.
 
#127
#127
BigPapaVol said:
how many ways do I have to tell you that they aren't holding you hostage. If you're struggling with idiomatic speech, take a class. If you're too senseless to understand how the unions cost us a fortune, please just keep paying taxes and quit voting.
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A lot of **** "costs us a fortune." None of it is holding me hostage.
 
#130
#130
PaulieWalnuts said:
Sounds to me like he's playing the victim. Maybe I'm interpreting wrong.

I certainly don't ever feel like I'm held hostage by unions, in fact I think that is borderline insanity.
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If you have ever bought an American made car, you are a victim in some sense of the word. When I buy new vehicles, I support jobs in Tennessee, not Detroit.
 
#134
#134
PaulieWalnuts said:
I am a tax payer. I am not held hostage by a union.

Or maybe I don't pay enough attention to realize it. How am I being held hostage by the evil unions?
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You are being held hostage by a teacher's union that refuses to fire teachers with tenure when their performance is poor. You are being held hostage by the TSA every time you go through an airport screening; you either submit to the x-ray scan that is the equivalent of having a full body x-ray every time you go through (if you are a frequent traveler, you can get several a week), or you get your junk played with. You are being held hostage by police and fire unions that demand ever higher pay increases and ever higher public contributions to their pensions that are out of line with the cost of living raises that the private sector hopes to get. I can go on. If the only unions were private, you may be able to avoid them, most are now public and are bargaining every year for more of your money or they hold you hostage.
 
#136
#136
PaulieWalnuts said:
Private school. Next.
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Well congratulations, daddy probably owns a private jet so you don't go through the airport. I hope one of these days to have enough $$ to be able not to care who is stealing me blind 10 cents at a time. I don't have that kind of $$ now.
 
#139
#139
PaulieWalnuts said:
Oh. I fly. How much cheaper would my $99 one way ticket on southwest be without the evil unions? lol
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who gives a shiz what the price of a ticket to Maryville costs?

I will tell you, however, that if you get out of the machinists union and stop turning screws for $12 / hour, you might be able to fly outside the state lines on a bankrupt carrier. It's sweet.
 
#140
#140
BigPapaVol said:
who gives a shiz what the price of a ticket to Maryville costs?

I will tell you, however, that if you get out of the machinists union and stop turning screws for $12 / hour, you might be able to fly outside the state lines on a bankrupt carrier. It's sweet.
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lol.

You should have just said, "you are right." It would have been a much better look for you.
 
#141
#141
PaulieWalnuts said:
I am a tax payer. I am not held hostage by a union.

Or maybe I don't pay enough attention to realize it. How am I being held hostage by the evil unions?
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OK Paulie, here's another for you. I assume you buy gas. I assume that you know that union members without fail have a pension that is funded by the company that they work for. That this pension is many times stock in the company or at the very least is dependent on the how the company does (i.e. a healthy company has healthy pensions and vice versa). Now, how in the heck can a union member that works for or has worked for an oil company POSSIBLY vote for an idiot like Barry when all Barry wants to do is tax the crap out of them. It's stupid, but they do. So when your union buddies that work for the oil companies vote good ole Barry back in and the taxation on oil companies goes through the roof (remember, he doesn't care what happens after him) and gas and oil prices spike accordingly, tell those union guys they did the right thing when your price at the pump is rising as fast as the nat'l debt clock.
 
#142
#142
Yes, that right wing educational system at it's finest....

From Fox News:
The Chicago Teachers Union says its members will go on strike Monday for the first time in 25 years.

Oh wait this is Chicago, oh wait this is the teachers union, oh wait this is all about the kids, oh wait this has NOTHING to do with the right wing educational system.
 
#143
#143
Unions (in manufacturing) have probably outlived their usefulness and because capital is so mobile now and some states are right-to-work states they are only hurting themselves.

That said, jobs leaving for overseas is the natural progression of things, advanced economies should transition to the service industry. Britain used to be the textile manufacturing capitol of the world - thankfully for them lesser developed economies handle most if that now.
 
#144
#144
dukes_of_maggard said:
Unions (in manufacturing) have probably outlived their usefulness and because capital is so mobile now and some states are right-to-work states they are only hurting themselves.

That said, jobs leaving for overseas is the natural progression of things, advanced economies should transition to the service industry. Britain used to be the textile manufacturing capitol of the world - thankfully for them lesser developed economies handle most if that now.
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How do you understand all that, but can't admit/fathom that we are slaves to the state?
 
#145
#145
PaulieWalnuts said:
lol.

You should have just said, "you are right." It would have been a much better look for you.
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Surely not serious. Wonder if your cheap tickets are why airlines have to regularly restructure debt and beat down the unions just to keep the doors open? Wonder why your 99 airline has no unions? Hmmmm?
 
#146
#146
yeah the teacher's union has their priorities straight.

Chicago teachers are striking for things like better pay (already the highest of any city) and better job security while results like this are coming out

Seventy-nine percent of the 8th graders in the Chicago Public Schools are not grade-level proficient in reading, according to the U.S. Department of Education, and 80 percent are not grade-level proficient in math.
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then there are some knee-slappers out there too

“Evaluate us on what we do, not on the lives of our children we do not control,” Lewis said Sunday, denouncing the online process by which teacher evaluators were being trained.
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“We have two kids here at Mt. Greenwood,” said Barb Ohse, standing with her husband, Rory, “and we’re both union with the fire department and we’re firm believers in the rights of the students and teachers. It’s all about the good working conditions and being compensated for the hard work you do.”
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remind me again why teachers union is so important
 
#147
#147
I agree with that second quote. You could get a group of worthless students. That would destroy your ability to earn a living. I wouldn't be happy either.

Them not getting paid enough money is laughable.
 
#148
#148
PKT_VOL said:
I agree with that second quote. You could get a group of worthless students. That would destroy your ability to earn a living. I wouldn't be happy either.

Them not getting paid enough money is laughable.
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Amazing the things that we agree on.
 
#149
#149
PKT_VOL said:
I agree with that second quote. You could get a group of worthless students. That would destroy your ability to earn a living. I wouldn't be happy either.

Them not getting paid enough money is laughable.
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their job is to teach. If their class is still 80% illiterate by the end of the year they didn't do their job. Something like that should destroy their ability to earn

I get terrible projects at work too. However if my success rate was 20% I would no longer be employed
 
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