Summitt should retire now. She simply...

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yep time for Pat to go....team had off game in all aspects. and other team on fire.
how she could not see that her team's shooting would be as awful as it has been all year and the other team would light it up and Cain would get in early foul trouble while Griner was foul free is just unreal.
Pat you have lost it:crazy:
 
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armchair said:
is not a great coach or recruiter anymore. She gets a lot of supposed top recruits, but the evaluation skills of her and her staff are not very good, and so the Vols have a big, slow team with no depth, despite the fact that UT is practically tops in recruiting--based on player rankings--most years. Watching this team lose to Baylor--a team as young or younger than the Vols--was painful. Just a terrible performance in every way--starting with coaching.
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Geno, welcome to VolNation. I know with the great team you bought and paid for, you don't have to devote much time to actually doing any coaching. However, all the negative posts in the world aren't going to make Pat play your semi-pro team anymore.

And by the way, Go Cardinal!
 
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Gino makes no apologies for having a great team...he just says that the other teams should step it up and beat him....how can they if they won't play him...I hope that he refuses to renew the rivalry when Pat has a team that she thinks can beat him...to an outsider it looks like jealousy:(
 
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lovethegame said:
Gino makes no apologies for having a great team...he just says that the other teams should step it up and beat him....how can they if they won't play him...I hope that he refuses to renew the rivalry when Pat has a team that she thinks can beat him...to an outsider it looks like jealousy:(
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Well, hope again there "outsider". I doubt little g would do that and I doubt a Lady Vol or Vol fan would hope that. Also, this not playing little uconn has nothing to do with who would win or lose. But, as an "outside" you might not know that. Whenever/If the game gets played again, it will be a nice Good vs Evil productions. Evil=uconn just so ya know. UT doesn't need uconn, but reading many, many posts on other message boards, it would appear that little g or uconn needs UT. Perhaps, to validate their program? I'm not sure.:pat:
 
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The fact is, Geno is a better coach than PS. He's a jerk, to be sure, but the man can coach. He's just as hard-nosed as PS, and a much better offensive coach. Back in the mid and late 1990s, the Vols would run the ball, get up and down the court. But over the last 12 years the offense has been clunky--good enough to win a lot of games, but no titles until Parker came along and shouldered most of the scoring load. Combination of things--mostly mediocre play by guards and centers on offense. The Baylor game was classic: Terrible offensive display in a game that Vols clearly should have won. I'll be rooting for Stanford, too--but they'll have to play a perfect game.
 
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armchair said:
The fact is, Geno is a better coach than PS. He's a jerk, to be sure, but the man can coach. He's just as hard-nosed as PS, and a much better offensive coach. Back in the mid and late 1990s, the Vols would run the ball, get up and down the court. But over the last 12 years the offense has been clunky--good enough to win a lot of games, but no titles until Parker came along and shouldered most of the scoring load. Combination of things--mostly mediocre play by guards and centers on offense. The Baylor game was classic: Terrible offensive display in a game that Vols clearly should have won. I'll be rooting for Stanford, too--but they'll have to play a perfect game.
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I can agree on the offense in the Baylor game especially. You most like can't shoot 28-32% and beat a team shooting 50% and expect to win. And, you can't let one player dominate the game against you. And, I'll be pulling for Stanford to have their best game of the year. I hope they don't come out shooting cold as many of uconn's opponents have this year.
 
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armchair said:
The fact is, Geno is a better coach than PS. He's a jerk, to be sure, but the man can coach. He's just as hard-nosed as PS, and a much better offensive coach. Back in the mid and late 1990s, the Vols would run the ball, get up and down the court. But over the last 12 years the offense has been clunky--good enough to win a lot of games, but no titles until Parker came along and shouldered most of the scoring load. Combination of things--mostly mediocre play by guards and centers on offense. The Baylor game was classic: Terrible offensive display in a game that Vols clearly should have won. I'll be rooting for Stanford, too--but they'll have to play a perfect game.
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Right or wrong they are two different types of coaches. I wouldn't say Geno is a better coach so much as he has much better talent right now. Pat is an old school coach who has values she will not bend on, Geno is a win at all costs type of recruiter who will take on all comers. Pat just isn't that way, she wants a certain kind of player on her team. I'm not saying that it's right or wrong, it is what it is.

I will agree that right now Geno is on top, Pat can choose to do one of two things. She can either take on the mentality of a coach like Geno or she can keep to her convictions and recruit the type of athlete she knows she can respect and represent her and the school well. I personally think she will never cross that personal line she has drawn and is content to compete at the level she is right now because she feels she is going about it "the right way" as she sees it.
 
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ddean1357 said:
It seems like everybody on here hates all of our coaches. Give Summit a break. She is the best women's coach ever. Pearl's not looking bad either. Dooley hasn't even coached a game yet and the sky is falling. Give it a rest!!!!!
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I question this reality every time I log on my friend. Good observation.
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I also agree PS has been playing a slower paced game but I think it's due more to the players on roster more than it is a complete philosophy change.
 
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KB5252 said:
Right or wrong they are two different types of coaches. I wouldn't say Geno is a better coach so much as he has much better talent right now. Pat is an old school coach who has values she will not bend on, Geno is a win at all costs type of recruiter who will take on all comers. Pat just isn't that way, she wants a certain kind of player on her team. I'm not saying that it's right or wrong, it is what it is.

I will agree that right now Geno is on top, Pat can choose to do one of two things. She can either take on the mentality of a coach like Geno or she can keep to her convictions and recruit the type of athlete she knows she can respect and represent her and the school well. I personally think she will never cross that personal line she has drawn and is content to compete at the level she is right now because she feels she is going about it "the right way" as she sees it.
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Spot on analysis in my humble,east tn, open'yin.
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lovethegame said:
Gino makes no apologies for having a great team...he just says that the other teams should step it up and beat him....how can they if they won't play him...I hope that he refuses to renew the rivalry when Pat has a team that she thinks can beat him...to an outsider it looks like jealousy:(
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Pat won the national championship in the first season that UConn was off her schedule. That sort of belies the thought she dropped UConn because she was afraid of losing to them. In fact, UConn failed to meet Tennessee that season because it lost in the Final Four to the team Tennessee beat for the title.

It's pretty well established that she took them off the schedule because, in her view, they went out of line with recruiting. You may not agree with that, but she has the right to play whoever she pleases, and she chooses not to schedule a team she feels is cheating. If Geno wants to play UT, then he needs to resolve those concerns to Pat's satisfaction, or wait until his next chance to play her in the tournament.

As for the rest of it, I am sure she is working quite hard to improve her team to the point where it can compete with UConn, or anyone else in the nation. These things run in cycles. We had Chamique and they didn't. They had Diana and we didn't. We had Candace and they didn't. Now they got Maya and we don't. They'll race each other to the next superstar.
 
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2010-2011 season should be outstanding for the Lady Vols. They will have a full roster and everyone will be available (off medical status). Plus, two incoming freshman. Depending on practices, one might even start. Both will definitely see minutes. With the addition of a shooting guard and shooting forward, the team should be much better with no one having to play out of position as they have this and last season. Meighan Simmons averaged 25.2 ppg, 2.6 rpg and 3.1 assists this past season. Last Monday, she finished second in the POWERade® Jam Fest Girls Three-Point Shootout competition. Lauren Avant is a true point guard who plays very aggressively on offense and defense. And on and on. Next season is going to be extremely good.
 
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Slydell said:
2010-2011 season should be outstanding for the Lady Vols. They will have a full rooster and everyone will be available (off medical status). Plus, two incoming freshman. Depending on practices, one might even start. Both will definitely see minutes. With the addition of a shooting guard and shooting forward, the team should be much better with no one having to play out of position as they have this and last season. Meighan Simmons averaged 25.2 ppg, 2.6 rpg and 3.1 assists this past season. Last Monday, she finished second in the POWERade® Jam Fest Girls Three-Point Shootout competition. Lauren Avant is a true point guard who plays very aggressively on offense and defense. And on and on. Next season is going to be extremely good.
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chanticleer*

:)
 
#93
#93
Haha, In the theme of "Dirty Steve" in Young Guns. "It struck me funny, just hackin on ya"
 
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armchair said:
The fact is, Geno is a better coach than PS. He's a jerk, to be sure, but the man can coach. He's just as hard-nosed as PS, and a much better offensive coach. Back in the mid and late 1990s, the Vols would run the ball, get up and down the court. But over the last 12 years the offense has been clunky--good enough to win a lot of games, but no titles until Parker came along and shouldered most of the scoring load. Combination of things--mostly mediocre play by guards and centers on offense. The Baylor game was classic: Terrible offensive display in a game that Vols clearly should have won. I'll be rooting for Stanford, too--but they'll have to play a perfect game.
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Geno has had the players thereby not having to do a lot of coaching, just as he has now. That is the primary reason for his success. How did he get the players? No one knows how well he can coach. Wait until the cupboard is a bit bare, if he isn't able to keep the stream of stars going, and then see what happens. For sure though, PS not getting a continual stream of great players and in quantity on the same team makes her efforts seem to be subpar. Geno Aardvark is going to pass her in total NC's soon. I just hope PS coaches long enough to stay the all-time winningest coach. Aardvark is pretty far behind her and given the lack of love between the two, I would guess that PS would want to insure that GA stays in second place.
 
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sjrobert said:
Geno has had the players thereby not having to do a lot of coaching, just as he has now. That is the primary reason for his success. How he got the players? No one knows how good he can coach. Wait until the cupboard is a bit bare and then see what happens. For sure though, PS not getting a continual stream of great players and in quantity on the same team makes her efforts seem to be subpar. Geno Aardvark is going to pass her in total NC's soon. I just hope PS coaches long enough to stay the all-time winningest coach. Aardvark is pretty far behind her and given the lack of love between the two, I would guess that PS would want to insure that GA stays in second place.
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Big uconn machine having a rough time right now. They've scored 9 points with four minutes to go in the half.
 
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armchair said:
is not a great coach or recruiter anymore. She gets a lot of supposed top recruits, but the evaluation skills of her and her staff are not very good, and so the Vols have a big, slow team with no depth, despite the fact that UT is practically tops in recruiting--based on player rankings--most years. Watching this team lose to Baylor--a team as young or younger than the Vols--was painful. Just a terrible performance in every way--starting with coaching.
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This definitely places you in the running for VolNation Valid victorian.
 
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armchair said:
is not a great coach or recruiter anymore. She gets a lot of supposed top recruits, but the evaluation skills of her and her staff are not very good, and so the Vols have a big, slow team with no depth, despite the fact that UT is practically tops in recruiting--based on player rankings--most years. Watching this team lose to Baylor--a team as young or younger than the Vols--was painful. Just a terrible performance in every way--starting with coaching.
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You are nuts
 
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I have tried to ignore this stupid thread, but I cannot any longer.

I can't even imagine how stupid someone has to be to make such a statement. Pat Summitt IS women's basketball. She is still the best and I am thankful she is coach of our Lady Vols, and I want her there for many, many years to come.

My only hope would be that ignorant people would find another team (may I suggest UCONN). The rest of us will continue to fully support and applaud Pat Summitt.
 
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