Sunbelt Billy

[SpookyAction]

Haha…homeschoolers are generally so much farther along socially it’s ridiculous. BTW…Tim Tebow was homeschooled. My daughter was home schooled(happens to be a highly successful violinist), one of her best friends was homeschooled and she’s a trauma surgeon. I know you were just parroting a “main stream” misconception but wow!!

I truly wish the kids I have taught that were homeschooled had parents like you.
Where does your daughter play violin? That's awesome! We need more artists enriching our communities. We can never have enough artists making communities better for everyone.

My anecdotal personal experience has been very different.

Had two sisters enroll last December, 6th and 8th grade. Both Homeschooled since 5 years old. The 6th grader could read four words per minute (The a's and an's in the reading passage). The 8th grade sister didn't know half of her alphabet, and could read zero words per minute. Neither knew their letter sounds. They were each placed in their age-appropriate grade, with Kindergarten reading intervention ( the state dept. of education doesn't allow school systems to place students in classrooms with younger students, regardless of ability). They have to do their reading intervention with 5 year olds.

Zero consequences for their mother. Social worker tells us in TN that is neither parental neglect nor abuse each time this happens. No consequences in TN if a parent does this to their children.

Our school faculty and staff have had these situations where children have been taught to read and have some success, but it is rare. It is difficult to learn to add and subtract when in middle school math being taught functions and Pythagorean Theorem.

I have seen this scenario play out repeatedly in rural counties. Not all are so extreme, but this happens at least once per school year in our small community school. Too often.

 

[TrueOrange]

Tebow was home schooled...

Didn’t he have more than 2 years of high school though?

 

[tennrich1]

I truly wish the kids I have taught that were homeschooled had parents like you.
Where does your daughter play violin? That's awesome! We need more artists enriching our communities. We can never have enough artists making communities better for everyone.

My anecdotal personal experience has been very different.

Had two sisters enroll last December, 6th and 8th grade. Both Homeschooled since 5 years old. The 6th grader could read four words per minute (The a's and an's in the reading passage). The 8th grade sister didn't know half of her alphabet, and could read zero words per minute. Neither knew their letter sounds. They were each placed in their age-appropriate grade, with Kindergarten reading intervention ( the state dept. of education doesn't allow school systems to place students in classrooms with younger students, regardless of ability). They have to do their reading intervention with 5 year olds.

Zero consequences for their mother. Social worker tells us in TN that is neither parental neglect nor abuse each time this happens. No consequences in TN if a parent does this to their children.

Our school faculty and staff have had these situations where children have been taught to read and have some success, but it is rare. It is difficult to learn to add and subtract when in middle school math being taught functions and Pythagorean Theorem.

I have seen this scenario play out repeatedly in rural counties. Not all are so extreme, but this happens at least once per school year in our small community school. Too often.

I personally have never witnessed such irresponsibility and I feel most confident that is an extremely isolated case. I agree. That is tragic. The homeschool association and other HUGE homeschool groups we have been associated with (and now have grandchildren involved ) in NO WAY even resemble such utter incompetence. Most, if not all, of the kids I know and witnessed over the years are massively beyond that and most received large scholarship offers at multiple exclusive universities and most are highly functioning and extremely well respected people in high profile careers. The parents, however, were very deeply involved. In our support group alone we had TV producers, doctors of all types, teachers, CEO’s of large companies, law enforcement officers and fire service members, lawyers, judges, pastors, evangelists etc….and many more careers. SO…one day a week we took turns taking all these kids to work with us…yes…including the surgery room on field trips. Your experience with homeschoolers is CLEARLY the exception and not the rule. So sorry that was your experience.

 

[Volfan1000]

Napier is the Butch Jones of Florida.

 

[stolitonic]

Haha…homeschoolers are generally so much farther along socially it’s ridiculous. BTW…Tim Tebow was homeschooled. My daughter was home schooled(happens to be a highly successful violinist), one of her best friends was homeschooled and she’s a trauma surgeon. I know you were just parroting a “main stream” misconception but wow!!

If it worked for you and your kids, great

I was stating nothing "main stream" and my observations were based entirely on my own personal experiences.

Also notice I stated nothing about professional success. I simply stated that at least in my day, the homeschool kids did not fit in that well. Believe I also stayed that there were many more of them now so I'm sure things are probably different.

By the time you reach middle school, I always viewed school as more about learning to deal with people more than actual book knowledge. This is where most homeschooled kids fell short, not the knowledge aspect.

My opinion and I will stand by it.

FYI, had three homeschooled kids in my friends group around the time I started college.
1. Got knocked up about 5 months into freshman year. Finished the school year out and nobody ever saw or heard from her again.
2. Guy is currently a Door Dash driver. Failed out after two years. We still keep in touch. Hit me up about a month ago to borrow $400 for a car repair. because he had no cash and no assets to sell.
3. Last but not least, my former roomie. He's been on death row for about 25 years for double murder.


My point there being, it's not a guaranteed recipe for success.

 

[volfanhill]

UF might not win another football game in my lifetime because of this.

Oh stop. Your old. In your children's lifetime.

 

[tennrich1]

If it worked for you and your kids, great

I was stating nothing "main stream" and my observations were based entirely on my own personal experiences.

Also notice I stated nothing about professional success. I simply stated that at least in my day, the homeschool kids did not fit in that well. Believe I also stayed that there were many more of them now so I'm sure things are probably different.

By the time you reach middle school, I always viewed school as more about learning to deal with people more than actual book knowledge. This is where most homeschooled kids fell short, not the knowledge aspect.

My opinion and I will stand by it.

FYI, had three homeschooled kids in my friends group around the time I started college.
1. Got knocked up about 5 months into freshman year. Finished the school year out and nobody ever saw or heard from her again.
2. Guy is currently a Door Dash driver. Failed out after two years. We still keep in touch. Hit me up about a month ago to borrow $400 for a car repair. because he had no cash and no assets to sell.
3. Last but not least, my former roomie. He's been on death row for about 25 years for double murder.


My point there being, it's not a guaranteed recipe for success.

We’ll just agree that we have 100% diametrically incongruent experiences with homeschooling.

 

[Firebirdparts]

Got schooled today by Lane Kiffen
All I get is ridiculed.

I am amazed, really, but I can believe it based on what I have observed here over the last 15 years. It's so painful when you think it's going to be bad (for those that really care) and they don't want to feel that pain.

He sure looks dumb. He may not be as dumb as he looks, but he could still be awful dumb and be in that range.

 

[05_never_again]

Didn’t he have more than 2 years of high school though?

Yeah. Homeschooled the entire time, as far as I know, but played football for Nease High School.

 

[jaybird_1981]

I truly wish the kids I have taught that were homeschooled had parents like you.
Where does your daughter play violin? That's awesome! We need more artists enriching our communities. We can never have enough artists making communities better for everyone.

My anecdotal personal experience has been very different.

Had two sisters enroll last December, 6th and 8th grade. Both Homeschooled since 5 years old. The 6th grader could read four words per minute (The a's and an's in the reading passage). The 8th grade sister didn't know half of her alphabet, and could read zero words per minute. Neither knew their letter sounds. They were each placed in their age-appropriate grade, with Kindergarten reading intervention ( the state dept. of education doesn't allow school systems to place students in classrooms with younger students, regardless of ability). They have to do their reading intervention with 5 year olds.

Zero consequences for their mother. Social worker tells us in TN that is neither parental neglect nor abuse each time this happens. No consequences in TN if a parent does this to their children.

Our school faculty and staff have had these situations where children have been taught to read and have some success, but it is rare. It is difficult to learn to add and subtract when in middle school math being taught functions and Pythagorean Theorem.

I have seen this scenario play out repeatedly in rural counties. Not all are so extreme, but this happens at least once per school year in our small community school. Too often.

There are two forms of homeschooling that I have seen. Some kids are homeschooled because their parents take a lot of interest in them and they tend to excel. There are some who are homeschooled but they are doing what they cool "unschooling" and they basically let the child decide what they want to learn which is not great.

 

[Carp]

Got schooled today by Lane Kiffen
Austin Simmons hands Billy another BRUTAL RECRUITING LOSS

I keep telling our fans Billy just isn’t the guy but all I get is ridiculed.
You just can’t tell my fellow fans the administration should have hired a proven head coach.

What was your idea of a "proven coach." You just ran out of a proven coach out the door because he was "weird."

 

[VOLnMiami]

Got schooled today by Lane Kiffen
Austin Simmons hands Billy another BRUTAL RECRUITING LOSS

I keep telling our fans Billy just isn’t the guy but all I get is ridiculed.
You just can’t tell my fellow fans the administration should have hired a proven head coach.

He was the hot coach at the time...I think We even made a run at him or maybe wanted to see if he was interested...We are glad he wasn't He just isn't the coach thats ready for bigtime football yet...Or at least hasn't proven it yet....It's hard finding a good coach that fits your culture..We finally got lucky.

 

[Lawrence Wright]

Oh stop. Your old. In your children's lifetime.

Fair point, I am old.

Let’s go with my grandkid just to be safe.

 

[VOLnMiami]

Napier is the Butch Jones of Florida.

Butch actually recruited well here, He was just dumb as hell when it came to coaching is all....Thank god for Josh Dobbs or he wold've been gone a lot sooner.

 

[SpookyAction]

I haven't seen much that impressed me yet about Napier.
Media surrounding his previous coaching job was minimal, so not a lot of video of him giving interviews or giving much for a viewer to see what makes him tick.

I was googling to get a read on Napier's personality.
Found this on TigerDroppings: "Napier was a risk. It was so weird the LSU fan base Napiersexuals wanted him so badly."

It's going to be a long couple of seasons down there. UF's 2024 schedule is brutal, with those 3 FL schools+SEC schedule, it will put pressure on UF's AD to do something if 2023 is not a good season.

 

[LouderVol]

UF might not win another football game in my lifetime because of this.

serious question, what is your QB situation for the next couple seasons?

I think y'all have a one year rental for '23. not sure who else for this coming season.
Not sure who would be there in '24, I guess another rental.
I know you are supposed to be #1 for one of the top '25 Qbs, but trusting to a true freshman, after a couple rental projects? woof. but a first year player, and maybe another rental?

you need to take some 3* just to have bodies.

 

[LouderVol]

they did pick up a bunch of 4*s, but dang do they need a QB something fierce. They can't even buy one.

 

[Lawrence Wright]

serious question, what is your QB situation for the next couple seasons?

I think y'all have a one year rental for '23. not sure who else for this coming season.
Not sure who would be there in '24, I guess another rental.
I know you are supposed to be #1 for one of the top '25 Qbs, but trusting to a true freshman, after a couple rental projects? woof. but a first year player, and maybe another rental?

you need to take some 3* just to have bodies.

DJ Lagway is either a 4* or 5* depending on the recruiting service, and he’s a 2024 commit. From all accounts he’s the real deal…he better be.

Not sure about 2025, or if you were referencing Lagway also and got the years mixed up.

We have a Wisconsin retread posing as QB1 this upcoming season. It’s gonna be rough.

 

[Voldog1998]

Ole Sunbelt Billy currently has a top 5 ranked 2024 recruiting class

 

[LouderVol]

DJ Lagway is either a 4* or 5* depending on the recruiting service, and he’s a 2024 commit. From all accounts he’s the real deal…he better be.

Not sure about 2025, or if you were referencing Lagway also and got the years mixed up.

We have a Wisconsin retread posing as QB1 this upcoming season. It’s gonna be rough.

ah ok, I thought Lagway was a '25 guy based on some of the comments I was reading with this recruit flipping from Fla '25 to Ole Miss '23.

that is still rough.....

 

[Lawrence Wright]

Ole Sunbelt Billy currently has a top 5 ranked 2024 recruiting class

Imagine how nice that class would be if we didn't have so many BRUTAL RECRUITING LOSSES!!!

 

[ETV]

We have a Wisconsin retread posing as QB1 this upcoming season. It’s gonna be rough.

Time to find one of the old Wisconsin playbooks and use it. Wisconsin doesn't need them anymore since they've gone to the air raid.

 

[BlinghamptonVol]

3. Last but not least, my former roomie. He's been on death row for about 25 years for double murder.


My point there being, it's not a guaranteed recipe for success.

99% of death row inmates went to public school or were coached by Urban Meyer.

Not sure any schooling option has a guarantee for success.

 

[Jaxon_Vol2017]

UF might not win another football game in my lifetime because of this.

That would be fine by me.

 

[Big Orange Rob]

Florida is not going to crumble like a lot of you apparently think. They may not be the force they were in the 90's, but they will still be strong in time.