Super Regionals/World Series

#627
#627
Some of you people need to step away from the cliff. We lost players who put up these stats last year offensively:

.380 5 HR 38 RBI
.344 13 HR 64 RBI
.297 8 HR 37 RBI
.293 2 HR 14 2B 40 RBI

We replaced them with people who didn't come close to this total production.

Geer went from .358 11HR 58 RBI to
.276 6 HR 34 RBI

And contrary to popular belief sophs don't automatically have huge jumps in production. Leach and Vines combined for 10 more hits than last year. They both had a lower BA than last year from the start of the SEC season to the end.

We scored 44 less runs and hit 17 less HR.

We lost 2 good pitchers, each with winning SEC records, who accounted for 235 innings last year. We replaced them with Arnold, who turned out to be a fine pitcher, but most of us outside her hometown had never heard of. And we had to nearly double Moss' innings, from 112 to a little over 200.

And we won more games. And we advanced farther.

And the softball team isn't responsible for the woes of any other UT athletic team.
 
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#630
#630
UT_Tix79 said:
Baylor knocks off #2 Arizona to move to the WCWS
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Wow....#2 seed Arizona falls to #15 seed Baylor. That's just tragic for Arizona's softball team falling that far off the grid & being embarrassed at not holding up to their big boy ranking.

#8 seed TN falls to a #9 seed & it's just a terrible show for this very young team that was not expected to win anything at all or even make a little noise in the SEC.

Of course I used "blue font" for the sarcasm here.
 
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#631
gule said:
STOP IT, JUST STOP IT!

quit blaming the girls and the weekly's. Err body knows Holly's to blame.
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No, gule, you've already admitted it was your fault (see post #607). Just go ahead and accept it.

You know Holly is responsible only for earthquakes and tidal waves.
 
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#633
LA Vol said:
Read the post. I never said the softball program was backsliding. In fact, I said the opposite. You seem to be looking to start something, so look elsewhere.
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I did read the post again, and it reads the same as it did the first time. I don't see how you could take that as anything other than a shot at our softball program. You've used our softball performance this year to illustrate the struggles of our athletic program as a whole. That is just not accurate.

And when I pointed out multiple factual inaccuracies in your last three posts, you accuse me of trying to start something? How about you rely on facts, instead of hyperbole to take shots at our program and players.
 
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#634
#634
DeerPark12 said:
This is far from A&M's first trip to the World Series. Their program has multiple national championships. This is their seventh trip to the World Series in the NCAA era, they had several others back in the AIAW days.

Sure, it is their first trip since 2008, but don't act like they're some upstart that came out of nowhere. They have a coach that's been there 20 years and has been to four World Series.
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'83 and 87 aren't necessarily "several" titles. Don't church it up. They have ZERO in the modern WCWS format.
 
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#638
#638
Our pitching has been a notch below true championship level for the last three years or so. Even so, we should have beaten a&m. We blew the Super series, big-time. We had beaten the aggies in 4 of 5 games, and had three-run leads in both game two and game three--and yet somehow managed to lose both games. Opportunities are opportunities--you have to grab them when they're sitting right in front of you, and we, somehow, didn't. We scored three runs in the first two innings of game three and didn't score again? Brutal. Yea, we could be good next year--but the season has to be played. We had a great year going this year and then sort of imploded at crunch time...at home. It is how we lost that is frustrating.
 
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#639
#639
armchair said:
Our pitching has been a notch below true championship level for the last three years or so. Even so, we should have beaten a&m. We blew the Super series, big-time. We had beaten the aggies in 4 of 5 games, and had three-run leads in both game two and game three--and yet somehow managed to lose both games. Opportunities are opportunities--you have to grab them when they're sitting right in front of you, and we, somehow, didn't. We scored three runs in the first two innings of game three and didn't score again? Brutal. Yea, we could be good next year--but the season has to be played. We had a great year going this year and then sort of imploded at crunch time...at home. It is how we lost that is frustrating.
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Watch the post game presser Karen explains everything :good!:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-o38fssMvY&t=0s
 
#640
#640
OriginalCoach said:
'83 and 87 aren't necessarily "several" titles. Don't church it up. They have ZERO in the modern WCWS format.
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Well, as you can see in my post, I never said "several" in reference to their titles.

Anyway, that's a moot point. The poster I was replaying to said this was A&M's first WCWS. It is not. They have been to seven in the NCAA era, now three in the current Super Regional format.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
I did read the post again, and it reads the same as it did the first time. I don't see how you could take that as anything other than a shot at our softball program. You've used our softball performance this year to illustrate the struggles of our athletic program as a whole. That is just not accurate.

And when I pointed out multiple factual inaccuracies in your last three posts, you accuse me of trying to start something? How about you rely on facts, instead of hyperbole to take shots at our program and players.
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[FONT=&quot]Your interpretation wasn’t my intent. I never inferred or implied that softball is a root cause of the performance of UT’s other athletic programs. I expressly stated that we have a good, well-coached softball team, but you seem determined to spin my words your way. I have tried to be civil, but as I said previously, I’m not looking to engage further with you on this, so let’s move on. You ignore me and I’ll ignore you.[/FONT]
 
#642
#642
LA Vol said:
[FONT=&quot]Your interpretation wasn’t my intent. I never inferred or implied that softball is a root cause of the performance of UT’s other athletic programs. I expressly stated that we have a good, well-coached softball team, but you seem determined to spin my words your way. I have tried to be civil, but as I said previously, I’m not looking to engage further with you on this, so let’s move on. You ignore me and I’ll ignore you.[/FONT]
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I'm not looking to "spin" anything, nor am I looking to pick a fight. But I pointed out when your facts weren't accurate and you took offense to that.

You can ignore me, I don't give two s*its about it, but I'm not going to just ignore when someone posts things that are factually inaccurate.
 
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#643
#643
DeerPark12 said:
Well, as you can see in my post, I never said "several" in reference to their titles.

Anyway, that's a moot point. The poster I was replaying to said this was A&M's first WCWS. It is not. They have been to seven in the NCAA era, now three in the current Super Regional format.
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Multiple = several to most
 
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#644
#644
DeerPark12 said:
I'm not looking to "spin" anything, nor am I looking to pick a fight. But I pointed out when your facts weren't accurate and you took offense to that.

You can ignore me, I don't give two s*its about it, but I'm not going to just ignore when someone posts things that are factually inaccurate.
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Ah, yes, aTm and the WCWS. I misstated that. Thanks for clarifying. I have already acknowledged that those were fair points. I applaud your Googling skills, and we are all the beneficiaries of your due diligence.

Now can you let it go and move on?
 
#645
#645
sccshortstop said:
No where did I say she could be our pitcher to be relied on! No where did I say she was the next coming of Cat. Reading is hard on some I guess.
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What you said that I take issue with is that you "100% agree" with the volman post saying Gaffin was the "best pitcher since the Renfroes." Best would reasonably include reliability and mastery.

Reading isn't hard on me.
 
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#647
#647
Giving up two homeruns says to me too many fat pitches to good hitters. Low and away, low and way, or get a walk. Still had/have a great season and team though, and coach.
 
#648
#648
1CHATTVOL said:
What you said that I take issue with is that you "100% agree" with the volman post saying Gaffin was the "best pitcher since the Renfroes." Best would reasonably include reliability and mastery.

Reading isn't hard on me.
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That would be Gabriel. I beg your pardon!:thud:
 
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#649
#649
utfantilidie said:
Giving up two homeruns says to me too many fat pitches to good hitters. Low and away, low and way, or get a walk. Still had/have a great season and team though, and coach.
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The umps are responsible for giving too many fat pitches .....they squeezed our pitches with their strike zones/calls .
 
#650
#650
On the question of who is best since Ellen, are you guys just arguing between Gabriel and Gaffin? Or are you counting Moss and Arnold too? How do you really pick something like that. Between Gaffin and Gabriel - Gaffin had a better ERA every year they pitched together. She had a better winning percentage and she gave up WAY fewer HRs. But she didn't pitch quite as many innings and she didn't start nearly as many games. She had the benefit a lot of times of coming in after the other team had been through the lineup a couple times against Gabriel-and then she switched their eye level with that heavy drop. It's really hard to say who was best. Gabriel gave up about 20 more HR in her career but they had completely different styles. Gaffin stayed down so much with that heavy drop that her misses were more likely to be in the dirt. Gabriel pitched up so her misses were more likely to get yard.

If you throw Matty in the argument-she easily has the best career ERA. Last year when all 3 were on the team she had the lowest ERA of the 3 and walked by far the fewest. And if you can forgive her for this past week she easily had the best full season of the 3 statistically.

And Arnold statistically had a better year this year than Gabriel or Gaffin ever had. Lower ERA-pitched more innings than either of those 2 ever did.

I would say Gaffin had the single most devastating pitch of the four. When she was on she would start the ball at the knees and the catcher would scoop it out of the dirt. And some days the hitters couldn't lay off it. But some days they could lay off it and she'd have trouble.

After much consideration I come to the conclusion that................I don't know
 
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