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#127
#127
rjd970 said:
You're a godless heathen from the west coast, so that makes you exempt from the "tithing requirement for blessings" clause of the contract.
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When crap hits the fan, Jesus said run to the hills in the west.

Oski has his head on straight!
 
#130
#130
My families income is down around 10 to 15%, our expenses have increased about 15% with a kid in college. This year has been tough but we are keeping our heads above water.

I am not one of those who believes that God tests me, my philosophy is God gave us free will. By doing this he gave us the wonderful gifts of both good and love. The downside is there is also bad and hate in the world. You roll with the punches, and do your best. I don't see God as the type to put me through financial trouble to test my devotion. You are supposed to live the best you can, as good as you can, and roll with the punches.
 
#132
#132
I agree to a point, I base my spiritual life on the book of James. Crap will happen, learn to deal with it and move on to the next crisis.
 
#134
#134
I'm in the same boat. My wife had always made more that I did. She was a supervisor for Springs Industries. We knew about a year out that they would be shutting down and moving to Mexico. We had one in college and another that was a junior at the time. I retired from Alabama and found a job in Georgia. I get bama retirement and Georgia pay. My wife was out of work for 363 days before finding a part time job. We have managed to pay, now both, sons college. No scholarships, minus one for $500 from FFA, no loans, just us. If it were not for the Grace of God, we litterally could not have done it. If you were wondering just what my church pays me its,$200 a month. Which they make me take, I did not want that. And yes I tithe!

Now my eldest son, who has worked full time while going to school, is out of a job. He will get another job in Nov. Its the one that he had before his last job working for a vet here, he will handle all the things that go on at his farm. He's a regular "EB"!!!!!!

My youngest works full time at a grocery store and goes to school full time.
 
#135
#135
KB5252 said:
My families income is down around 10 to 15%, our expenses have increased about 15% with a kid in college. This year has been tough but we are keeping our heads above water.

I am not one of those who believes that God tests me, my philosophy is God gave us free will. By doing this he gave us the wonderful gifts of both good and love. The downside is there is also bad and hate in the world. You roll with the punches, and do your best. I don't see God as the type to put me through financial trouble to test my devotion. You are supposed to live the best you can, as good as you can, and roll with the punches.
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does the name Lot ring a bell?
 
#136
#136
droski said:
so god only controls your life? i'm confused.
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typical "gotcha" question.....once again, I am ONLY speaking for MY situation.....but, I will agree that you ARE confused or just trying to confuse any readers of this thread
 
#137
#137
T-TownVol said:
typical "gotcha" question.....once again, I am ONLY speaking for MY situation.....but, I will agree that you ARE confused or just trying to confuse any readers of this thread
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It's not a "gotcha" question, it is a legitimate one. He is just trying to reconcile what you say you believe and you can't seem to explain why he would be so blessed financially but doesn't follow the same rules of a God relationship or tithing that you credit yours blessings with.

It's a very legitimate question.
 
#138
#138
rjd970 said:
It's not a "gotcha" question, it is a legitimate one. He is just trying to reconcile what you say you believe and you can't seem to explain why he would be so blessed financially but doesn't follow the same rules of a God relationship or tithing that you credit yours blessings with.

It's a very legitimate question.
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The problem is that I HAVE explained why. It is my faith in God. It is that simple. You two keep searching for more because you do not believe in God. I get that and I am not going to try and "convert" you or him over a forum.
KB also answered his question to which I replied with a smile. I was not going to go to the "devil" answer but it is a very legitimate one. The devil allows alot of people to do very well financially so that they have the "I do not need God" attitude.
My "credit" of the blessing in my life, comes from the relationship I have with God. Until either of you two have that relationship, I am quit sure that no anything I say will make sense to you.
 
#139
#139
rjd970 said:
But you said your blessings are a result of your tithes. You are 100% sure of this.

So the reasoning would go that anybody who tithes like you should enjoy similar blessings. Otherwise, it isn't your tithing, it is your relationship with God. Of which, again, would have to be more special than others because you are especially blessed.

I'm just saying, I think you give too much credit to God, and not enough to yourself.
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I know alot of Christians that have a much better relationship with God then I do, yet are not blessed nearly as well financially. He is the rub for the non-believer, I do not know why they are not blessed as I have been. I also do not question it. I give as I do because I love God and for that I truly believe that the money has come back from him in abundance.
I have no idea if the others, that I mentioned, tithe or not.
 
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#140
T-TownVol said:
I know alot of Christians that have a much better relationship with God then I do, yet are not blessed nearly as well financially. He is the rub for the non-believer, I do not know why they are not blessed as I have been. I also do not question it. I give as I do because I love God and for that I truly believe that the money has come back from him in abundance.
I have no idea if the others, that I mentioned, tithe or not.
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The obvious answer to that is the one variable that is different. YOU.

...not God, not how you believe, not how much you tithe.

I know you disagree with that, but it doesn't change the reality of how you have accomplished what you have.

We obviously don't believe the same thing here. And that's fine. But I believe you sell yourself short by over estimating the credit of your accomplishments toward your religious beliefs.
 
#141
#141
rjd970 said:
The obvious answer to that is the one variable that is different. YOU.

...not God, not how you believe, not how much you tithe.

I know you disagree with that, but it doesn't change the reality of how you have accomplished what you have.

We obviously don't believe the same thing here. And that's fine. But I believe you sell yourself short by over estimating the credit of your accomplishments toward your religious beliefs.
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You just don't get it and I pray that one day you will.

You want me to doubt God's provision in my life. You want to plant the seed that makes me think that anything that I have, I have "earned" on my own.
Sorry to disappoint you there rjd.
 
#142
#142
Thank God from whom all blessings come! The sun shines on the just as well as the unjust. I have no doubt where my blessings come from. If anyone doesn't want to believe they have blessings from God, thats their own thing. I trust mine!
 
#143
#143
T-TownVol said:
You just don't get it and I pray that one day you will.

You want me to doubt God's provision in my life. You want to plant the seed that makes me think that anything that I have, I have "earned" on my own.
Sorry to disappoint you there rjd.
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+1

That is the entire point of having faith in God. It is not about me.

:hi:
 
#145
#145
So T-Town, I'm doing alright because the devil allows it and I don't have to do anything? This guy sounds alright.
 
#147
#147
T-TownVol said:
does the name Lot ring a bell?
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Yes but that is Old Testament, Jesus ushered in a new age and made the Old Testament books of history. Not saying the OT isn't important, there are many very important lessons that can be learned from it, Lot's story being one of them.
 
#148
#148
KB5252 said:
Yes but that is Old Testament, Jesus ushered in a new age and made the Old Testament books of history. Not saying the OT isn't important, there are many very important lessons that can be learned from it, Lot's story being one of them.
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That was my only point.
 
#149
#149
T-TownVol said:
The problem is that I HAVE explained why. It is my faith in God. It is that simple. You two keep searching for more because you do not believe in God. I get that and I am not going to try and "convert" you or him over a forum.
KB also answered his question to which I replied with a smile. I was not going to go to the "devil" answer but it is a very legitimate one. The devil allows alot of people to do very well financially so that they have the "I do not need God" attitude.
My "credit" of the blessing in my life, comes from the relationship I have with God. Until either of you two have that relationship, I am quit sure that no anything I say will make sense to you.
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My answer was made in jest.

I don't pray as often as I should but a couple of times a week I ask that he helps me be the best father, husband and man that I can be. I ask that he helps make me successful, not rich mind you but my family has needed a little boost every now and again to get over financial humps and so far we have made it.

I don't think God cares one iota about money or riches. I don't pretend to know if he actually had a hand in making sure a little extra work came my way or not. I am very careful about what I lay at the feet of God or the Devil.
 
#150
#150
KB5252 said:
My answer was made in jest.

I don't pray as often as I should but a couple of times a week I ask that he helps me be the best father, husband and man that I can be. I ask that he helps make me successful, not rich mind you but my family has needed a little boost every now and again to get over financial humps and so far we have made it.

I don't think God cares one iota about money or riches. I don't pretend to know if he actually had a hand in making sure a little extra work came my way or not. I am very careful about what I lay at the feet of God or the Devil.
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I agree, but he does care about what you do with the riches he has blessed you with. All I have tried to say on this matter is what I believe.

I knew your "devil" comment was in jest, but it is very real and more true then most will ever admit.
 
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