Supreme Court upholds ObamaCare.

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OrangeEmpire said:
Va here, Johnson hands down.
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I'd rather not waste a vote but if you were going to vote for Obama, then please vote for Johnson instead. I drank the Cool-Aid and believe with a R senate and Romney, Obamacare gets repealed.

Whether it's a tax, a penalty or confiscation, I and my business are going to be paying a hellofa lot more. I've got around 100 min wage to around $12 per hour employees and huge turnover (nature of the business). We're looking at an additional $200K of cost in a low margin business.
 
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Redstater said:
I'd rather not waste a vote but if you were going to vote for Obama, then please vote for Johnson instead. I drank the Cool-Aid and believe with a R senate and Romney, Obamacare gets repealed.

Whether it's a tax, a penalty or confiscation, I and my business are going to be paying a hellofa lot more. I've got around 100 min wage to around $12 per hour employees and huge turnover (nature of the business). We're looking at an additional $200K of cost in a low margin business.
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How am I wasting my vote by voting for my preferred candidate?
 
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Redstater said:
I'd rather not waste a vote but if you were going to vote for Obama, then please vote for Johnson instead. I drank the Cool-Aid and believe with a R senate and Romney, Obamacare gets repealed.

Whether it's a tax, a penalty or confiscation, I and my business are going to be paying a hellofa lot more. I've got around 100 min wage to around $12 per hour employees and huge turnover (nature of the business). We're looking at an additional $200K of cost in a low margin business.
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If I didn't look at the name, I would have sworn this was a Neocon post.
 
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Redstater said:
I'd rather not waste a vote but if you were going to vote for Obama, then please vote for Johnson instead. I drank the Cool-Aid and believe with a R senate and Romney, Obamacare gets repealed.
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no one is trying to decide between Obama and Johnson.

Redstater said:
Other than to register your dislike of both major party candidates, shouldn't your vote at least have the possibility of determining who'll be president for the next 4 years?
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I value my vote. Neither of the major party candidates have done anything to earn it. I would consider a vote for Romney throwing away my vote
 
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Cartervol said:
Can we just scrap both of these clowns and get some real candidates in there? I'm seriously thinking of leaving the POTUS box blank. It's like trying to choose which eye ball you want poked out.
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Vote "None of the Above"
One of my favorite scenes of all times...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LPdTXRjIKQ[/youtube]
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
No
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Is your determination that both would be equally bad for the nation over the next four years?

If that's your determination, what is your criteria for a successful president and how is a third party candidate without any support in congress going to achieve whatever it is you're hoping for?

Not trying to pick a fight but interested why someone votes for a candidate without a chance of winning.
 
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Redstater said:
Is your determination that both would be equally bad for the nation over the next four years?

If that's your determination, what is your criteria for a successful president and how is a third party candidate without any support in congress going to achieve whatever it is you're hoping for?

Not trying to pick a fight but interested why someone votes for a candidate without a chance of winning.
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So, you advocate voting for someone who doesn't hold the same principles as oneself?
 
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Redstater said:
Is your determination that both would be equally bad for the nation over the next four years?

If that's your determination, what is your criteria for a successful president and how is a third party candidate without any support in congress going to achieve whatever it is you're hoping for?

Not trying to pick a fight but interested why someone votes for a candidate without a chance of winning.
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How is voting for the lesser of two evils been working out?
 
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Redstater said:
Is your determination that both would be equally bad for the nation over the next four years?

If that's your determination, what is your criteria for a successful president and how is a third party candidate without any support in congress going to achieve whatever it is you're hoping for?

Not trying to pick a fight but interested why someone votes for a candidate without a chance of winning.
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You equate winning with principle?

I feel you for, sad way to live.
 
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Gramps said:
How is voting for the lesser of two evils been working out?
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You're asking me to prove negatives but here goes.

With John McCain, you wouldn't have Obamacare, Dodd-Frank, Solyndra, Joe Biden, Fast and Furious, etc. Huge difference.

With George Bush, I got to keep a hellofa lot more money in my pocket than if Al Gore had been elected.

And if Gary Johnson miraculously got elected, then what?
 
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Redstater said:
You're asking me to prove negatives but here goes.

With John McCain, you wouldn't have Obamacare, Dodd-Frank, Solyndra, Joe Biden, Fast and Furious, etc. Huge difference.

With George Bush, I got to keep a hellofa lot more money in my pocket than if Al Gore had been elected.

And if Gary Johnson miraculously got elected, then what?
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2008 I voted for Duncan Hunter. Easily above the trash that was Obama/McCain.
 
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Gramps said:
Romney = John Kerry

look at hs record.

Do you feel good about the choices we had in 2000 or 2004 ?
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What are you smoking? The only thing Kerry does well is marry.

Why would I have to feel good about the choices in 2000 or 2004? We are talking about lessor of evils and we did get that in 2000 and 2004.
 
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Redstater said:
You're asking me to prove negatives but here goes.

With John McCain, you wouldn't have Obamacare, Dodd-Frank, Solyndra, Joe Biden, Fast and Furious, etc. Huge difference.
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ObamaCare ....agree

Dodd -Frank... not sure

Solyndra - agree

Biden.... still would be in senate.

Fast and Furious... disagree. It started under Bush. Whatever do you think JM would have stopped it?

[/Quote] George Bush, I got to keep a hellofa lot more money in my pocket than if Al Gore had been elected.[/QUOTE]

Bush and the GOP cut taxes . They also gave us the Medicare prescription drug bill and 2 wars without paying for either one. That really helped the national debt.
Bush also brought us the first big round if bail outs

[/QUOTE]And if Gary Johnson miraculously got elected, then what?[/QUOTE]

Johnson is not going to get elected.
If enough people void for Johnson or another third party candidates it could make a statement to the Dems and GOP that we are not going to settle for whoever their big money donors says we have to.

There is no difference with the two big parties. They both are strictly about the money. Neither side is trying to do what is best for the USA .
 
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KentheOrange said:
What are you smoking? The only thing Kerry does well is marry.

Why would I have to feel good about the choices in 2000 or 2004? We are talking about lessor of evils and we did get that in 2000 and 2004.
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Kerry and Romney both elitist MA liberals that can not take a firm stand on issues.
Both are big time flip floppers .
 
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