Supreme Court upholds ObamaCare.

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Oh, I didn't mean one specifically. They essentially lump a bunch of smaller businesses together, and then they are all technically employees of the "group." The group then seeks out group health insurance for all its members collectively.

They offer other services, like payroll, etc. The health insurance is the biggest draw, though.
 
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Thrasher865 said:
Oh, I didn't mean one specifically. They essentially lump a bunch of smaller businesses together, and then they are all technically employees of the "group." The group then seeks out group health insurance for all its members collectively.

They offer other services, like payroll, etc. The health insurance is the biggest draw, though.
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Gotcha.
I have already checked with 3 or 4 of those.

I have been self employed for 35 years. I purchased medical insurance on the market. Paid premiums many years, the wife was diagnosed with diabetes around 7-8 years ago. Our provider dropped us within 3 months.

I do not agree with the entire Obamacare bill but it does have some good things scattered in it. A private insurance company should not be allowed to accept premiums for 10+ years then when someone gets sick drop them.
 
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Gramps said:
I do not agree with the entire Obamacare bill but it does have some good things scattered in it. A private insurance company should not be allowed to accept premiums for 10+ years then when someone gets sick drop them.
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:good!:

That is definitely the truth, brother! Or raise their premiums!
 
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Gramps said:
Gotcha.
I have already checked with 3 or 4 of those.

I have been self employed for 35 years. I purchased medical insurance on the market. Paid premiums many years, the wife was diagnosed with diabetes around 7-8 years ago. Our provider dropped us within 3 months.

I do not agree with the entire Obamacare bill but it does have some good things scattered in it. A private insurance company should not be allowed to accept premiums for 10+ years then when someone gets sick drop them.
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Yeah that's some BS.
 
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Gramps said:
I wish it were BS.
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Sorry to hear about how the insurance company treated you! That isn't right. You're correct though: like numerous other things (especially in politics and society), the affordable care act is neither completely good nor completely bad. It is an attempt at a remedy, but an imperfect one at that.
 
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Gramps said:
Gotcha.
I have already checked with 3 or 4 of those.

I have been self employed for 35 years. I purchased medical insurance on the market. Paid premiums many years, the wife was diagnosed with diabetes around 7-8 years ago. Our provider dropped us within 3 months.

I do not agree with the entire Obamacare bill but it does have some good things scattered in it. A private insurance company should not be allowed to accept premiums for 10+ years then when someone gets sick drop them.
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I don't know where you live but you need to check on assigned risk pool with oversight by your state. Texas has this for people that have been denied coverage by two insurance companies. I had a friend (single) that had coverage through this program (Blue Cross/Blue Shield of Texas was the actual insurer) with premiums about $13,000 per year. This was several years ago so I'm sure premiums have increased, but it does assure everyone with the financial ability can obtain insurance.
 
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KentheOrange said:
I don't know where you live but you need to check on assigned risk pool with oversight by your state. Texas has this for people that have been denied coverage by two insurance companies. I had a friend (single) that had coverage through this program (Blue Cross/Blue Shield of Texas was the actual insurer) with premiums about $13,000 per year. This was several years ago so I'm sure premiums have increased, but it does assure everyone with the financial ability can obtain insurance.
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TN has a plan that will insure anyone uninsurable. Access TN and also PCIP is a federal plan offered in TN.

The premiums are about $7,000 per year for over 55. That is for single coverage.

We are lucky it is available

We were not able to find anything on the open market. There was nothing available through the govt that we qualified for, for a few years.

It is a bad feeling when your insurance company drops you.
 
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Thanks Obamacare: 83% of Doctors Surveyed Say They May Quit - Kate Hicks

The Doctor Patient Medical Association has released a new survey of about 700 doctors, and the results are bleak. Scary bleak. Among other dismal figures, Doctors' Attitudes on the Future of Medicine: What’s Wrong, Who’s to Blame, and What Will Fix It found that 83% of respondents are contemplating leaving the industry if Obamacare is fully implemented, owing to its disastrous projected consequences. Indeed, they openly blame the healthcare law for their industry's woes:

KEY FINDINGS

90% say the medical system is on the WRONG TRACK

83% say they are thinking about QUITTING

61% say the system challenges their ETHICS

85% say the patient-physician relationship is in a TAILSPIN

65% say GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT is most to blame for current problems

72% say individual insurance mandate will NOT result in improved access care

49% say they will STOP accepting Medicaid patients

74% say they will STOP ACCEPTING Medicare patients, or leave Medicare completely

52% say they would rather treat some Medicaid/Medicare patient for FREE

57% give the AMA a FAILING GRADE representing them

1 out of 3 doctors is HESITANT to voice their opinion

2 out of 3 say they are JUST SQUEAKING BY OR IN THE RED financially

95% say private practice is losing out to CORPORATE MEDICINE

80% say DOCTORS/MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS are most likely to help solve things

70% say REDUCING GOVERNMENT would be single best fix.

If this isn't an airtight argument for the repeal of Obamacare, nothing is. When the people providing the actual healthcare are thinking of getting out of the game, the system is clearly broken.
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Six million Americans, or roughly 2% of the current population, will end up paying a penalty for failing to have health insurance when the full effect of the 2010 health-care overhaul law is felt in 2016, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

The CBO on Wednesday said the penalty of $695 or 2.5% of household income under the law formally known as the Affordable Care Act increases the number of those facing the penalty than originally was projected in April 2010, shortly after the law’s passage. The law contains an individual mandate requiring all Americans to have insurance or pay a penalty.

Six million will pay health law penalty: study
Congressional Budget Office says more to be taxed than expected

Six million will pay health law penalty: study - MarketWatch

Taxed more than expected? Well there's a shocker!!!
 
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Honestly, the irony here is just too much.

1) GOP nominates a guy who complains that too many people are not paying taxes and are freeloading and just expect the government to pick up the tab.

2) When he was governor, to combat that very thing on one of our biggest expenses -- health care -- he devised the individual mandate to diminish the freeloading.

3) Now, he waxes on and on about freeloaders not paying taxes and getting services for free, and he's got the whole mechanism of the GOP trying to defend his comments on the subject, and yet the GOP screams bloody murder over the Obama administration's plan to tax the freeloaders on health care !! And its the same damn mechanism their own candidate used before and recommended to be adopted nationally !

Just amazing.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Honestly, the irony here is just too much.

1) GOP nominates a guy who complains that too many people are not paying taxes and are freeloading and just expect the government to pick up the tab.

2) When he was governor, to combat that very thing on one of our biggest expenses -- health care -- he devised the individual mandate to diminish the freeloading.

3) Now, he waxes on and on about freeloaders not paying taxes and getting services for free, and he's got the whole mechanism of the GOP trying to defend his comments on the subject, and yet the GOP screams bloody murder over the Obama administration's plan to tax the freeloaders on health care !! And its the same damn mechanism their own candidate used before and recommended to be adopted nationally !

Just amazing.
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This is retarded. The freeloaders can't pay for anything, so said tax falls on those who can pay. Those who could and opt out are paying doubly. Please reason a little.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
This is retarded. The freeloaders can't pay for anything, so said tax falls on those who can pay. Those who could and opt out are paying doubly. Please reason a little.
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If that were so, why is Romney bothering to complain ? Why did he adopt the individual mandate in Mass.?

Your post is nonsensical.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Honestly, the irony here is just too much.

1) GOP nominates a guy who complains that too many people are not paying taxes and are freeloading and just expect the government to pick up the tab.

2) When he was governor, to combat that very thing on one of our biggest expenses -- health care -- he devised the individual mandate to diminish the freeloading.

3) Now, he waxes on and on about freeloaders not paying taxes and getting services for free, and he's got the whole mechanism of the GOP trying to defend his comments on the subject, and yet the GOP screams bloody murder over the Obama administration's plan to tax the freeloaders on health care !! And its the same damn mechanism their own candidate used before and recommended to be adopted nationally !

Just amazing.
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DNC nominates a guy who says:

1) HC won't raise taxes by one dime
2) He won't raise taxes on the middle class by one dime.

Fail; fail.

Just amazing.
 
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Mitt Romney said Wednesday that he considers it "a compliment" for President Barack Obama to refer to him as the "grandfather of Obamacare."

It was an odd comment, given the fact that Romney, the Republican nominee for president, is running on a promise to repeal the law. But it was an apparent case of Romney misspeaking slightly, not a shift in policy positions, since immediately afterward at Univision's "Meet the Candidate" forum he went into a long exposition of why he thinks Obama's national health care law is wrongheaded.

Mitt Romney Says It's A Compliment To Be Called 'Grandfather of Obamacare'
 
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