Syrian Kurds are close to declaring Independence

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hog88 said:
Whether we should have ever been there or not is beside the point in this case, we were and are and the Kurds have stood shoulder to shoulder with our troops even though we have ****ed them over multiple times.

They deserve better from us.
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When you are in a hole, stop digging.

Time to cut our losses and get the hell out of the sandbox.
 
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Mick said:
It actually seems orchestrated. "We pull back and you go in."
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That part is fact. No one disagrees, not even the administraton.

I guess my criticism is this: Trump did this completely on a whim. He did not consult with any of the people he needed to, and my impression is that this is really pizzing off a lot of people, particularly in our military. It is the standard situation: Trump's policy decisions are based on what the last person who stroked his ego said to him. He is so easily manipulated that way.

Trump defenders want to justify this as just more pulling out of endless wars. And while I don't think anyone would disagree with that, they need to be honest that this was a precipitous and dangerous move by Trump.
 
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lawgator1 said:
That part is fact. No one disagrees, not even the administraton.

I guess my criticism is this: Trump did this completely on a whim. He did not consult with any of the people he needed to, and my impression is that this is really pizzing off a lot of people, particularly in our military. It is the standard situation: Trump's policy decisions are based on what the last person who stroked his ego said to him. He is so easily manipulated that way.

Trump defenders want to justify this as just more pulling out of endless wars. And while I don't think anyone would disagree with that, they need to be honest that this was a precipitous and dangerous move by Trump.
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Bingo.
 
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carlos86 said:
That’s not how a military deterrent works and defense spending only makes up 15% of federal spending.
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It's well over 50% of discretionary spending. It's more than the next 10 countries combined. But as long as China, North Korea, Iran, and others are potential threats it's needed.
 
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evillawyer said:
Okay, maybe he has no spine, but he's got some massive bone spurs.

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It's what Russia has been wanting to complete the deal. They don't care what the Turks do, they just want our troops out of Syria.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has asked his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan to "carefully weigh the situation" in Syria, so as not to "harm the overall efforts to resolve" the crisis, according to a statement released by the Kremlin.
In the statement, the Kremlin also underlined "the importance of ensuring the unity and territorial integrity of Syria and respect for its sovereignty was noted on both sides."
Since Russia's military intervention in Syria's war began in 2015, Russian forces have helped returned control of large swathes of previously rebel-held areas of the country to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.
 
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Mick said:
It's what Russia has been wanting to complete the deal. They don't care what the Turks do, they just want our troops out of Syria.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has asked his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan to "carefully weigh the situation" in Syria, so as not to "harm the overall efforts to resolve" the crisis, according to a statement released by the Kremlin.
In the statement, the Kremlin also underlined "the importance of ensuring the unity and territorial integrity of Syria and respect for its sovereignty was noted on both sides."
Since Russia's military intervention in Syria's war began in 2015, Russian forces have helped returned control of large swathes of previously rebel-held areas of the country to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.
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Yeah, under Trump Putin gets yet another big win.

I'm stunned.
 
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Sounds like it is pretty bad.

It is absolute gridlock here in northern Syria, near the border with Turkey, as people try to flee to safety with little idea of what the Turkish military has in store for them.

For civilians living in this Kurdish stronghold, it's their worst nightmare playing out before their eyes.

There was a hope up until the last minute that perhaps the US would stand in support of its Kurdish allies and prevent this incursion from happening.

But now there is widespread fear of what Turkey -- which views the YPG-controlled zone as an existential threat -- will do next.

So far, Turkish airstrikes have largely hit Kurdish military targets, but once you have mortars flying, there is always a potential for civilian casualties. We witnessed what appeared to be six different strikes and a fire at what locals told us was a cotton factory.

Chaotic scenes are unfolding now, with roads choked with hundreds of fleeing families, motorcycles piled with five to six people, mattresses strapped to cars. Thick black smoke can be seen rising from a number of different areas.

People don’t know where they will go, where they will sleep tonight, or what they can expect from this Turkish operation.
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Turkey begins military offensive in Syria: Live updates - CNN

Trump really screwed the pooch on this one.
 
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evillawyer said:
No, a "bad idea" is ordering street meat on a 95 degree day. This seems a wee bit worse.

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Well, Turkey promised to help and not injure civilians or minority populations, right? So what could possibly go wrong with this, I just cannot imagine.

And meanwhile who once again benefits from Trump foreign policy?

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lawgator1 said:
That part is fact. No one disagrees, not even the administraton.

I guess my criticism is this: Trump did this completely on a whim. He did not consult with any of the people he needed to, and my impression is that this is really pizzing off a lot of people, particularly in our military. It is the standard situation: Trump's policy decisions are based on what the last person who stroked his ego said to him. He is so easily manipulated that way.

Trump defenders want to justify this as just more pulling out of endless wars. And while I don't think anyone would disagree with that, they need to be honest that this was a precipitous and dangerous move by Trump.
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He has that right as Commander in Chief. You really should know that. Remember Wag The Dog?
 
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BigOrangeD said:
He has that right as Commander in Chief. You really should know that. Remember Wag The Dog?
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A leak from inside the DoD:

“Trump rejects the careful process of decision making that has long guided commanders in chief. Disdain for the process might be the defining trait of his leadership. Of course, no process can guarantee good decisions—history makes that clear—but eschewing the tools available to a president is choosing ignorance. What Trump’s supporters call “the deep state” is, in the world of national security—hardly a bastion of progressive politics—a vast reservoir of knowledge and global experience that presidents ignore at their peril.”
 
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