T.S.A. At It Again

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Horsing-around TSA agent at JFK accidentally pepper-sprays five other screeners, sending them to the hospital - NYPOST.com

A bumbling TSA agent “playing around” with a pepper-spray container at Kennedy Airport fired the caustic liquid at five fellow screeners yesterday, sending all six to the hospital, a source told The Post.

The agent, Chris Yves Dabel, discovered the device at the Terminal 2 security checkpoint and tried to determine if it was real, a source told The Post.
He told Port Authority cops that he “found the canister on the floor and thought it was a laser pointer.”

“They were playing around with it,” said one Kennedy Airport official.

The screener sprayed five other TSA agents around him, sending all six to Jamaica Hospital and halting security checks at Kennedy for at least 15 minutes, police said.

No passengers reported injuries. Dabel refused medical attention.

TSA officials scrambled to keep the embarrassing incident under wraps yesterday — until The Post began inquiring about it, a source said.
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TSA searches valet parked car | www.WHEC.com

Laurie Iacuzza walked to her waiting car at the Greater Rochester International Airport after returning from a trip and that's when she found it -- a notice saying her car was inspected after she left for her flight. She said, “I was furious. They never mentioned it to me when I booked the valet or when I picked up the car or when I dropped it off.”

Iacuzza's car was inspected by valet attendants on orders from the TSA. But why only valet parked cars? That's what News10NBC wanted to ask the TSA director about. We reached him by phone.

Berkeley Brean asked, “Are the cars in the short term lots and long term lots getting searched as well?”

John McCaffery, TSA, said, “No, those vehicles that are in the garage, short term long term parking, even if they carry pretty large amounts of explosives, they would not cause damage to the front of the airport. But for those who use the valet, the car could be there for a half hour or an hour so there is a vulnerability.”
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n_huffhines said:
I disagree. This is akin to saying you are choosing to submit to unjustified search and seizure by choosing to go on living. You can play by their intrusive rules, or greatly inconvenience yourself. Government does not own the airlines. It does not own the skies. It does however own the roads, so I can understand the rules they enforce there.
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nvm, old post is, well.......old post.
 
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/06/u...nd-airport-security.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&

With little fanfare, the agency best known for airport screenings has vastly expanded its reach to sporting events, music festivals, rodeos, highway weigh stations and train terminals. Not everyone is happy.
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“The problem with T.S.A. stopping and searching people in public places outside the airport is that there are no real legal standards, or probable cause,” said Khaliah Barnes, administrative law counsel at the Electronic Privacy Information Center in Washington. “It’s something that is easily abused because the reason that they are conducting the stops is shrouded in secrecy.”
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T.S.A. officials respond that the random searches are “special needs” or “administrative searches” that are exempt from probable cause because they further the government’s need to prevent terrorist attacks.
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I would have no issue if we decided that we needed a federal police force to provide security at all major transportation hubs, from airports to rail and bus stations. If we did that, then they would replace, not add to the local police and private security. We might get some consistency of service and they could be effective.

However, we haven't decided that so we still maintain security through local police and others such as the Amtrak Police force etc. Which means T.S.A. is overstepping their bounds and slowly trying to grow into a federal police force. The difference between T.S.A. and all the other federal law enforcement agencies is they have no policing authority and, subsequently, have no police training.
 
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rjd970 said:
According to some on here this is no big deal.
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I'm not a conspiracy guy but if I was I'd certainly have plenty of fodder from the DoJ, NSA, IRS, TSA, CIA, DEA, EPA, HHS, DoHS, etc.

Dolts like Lindsay Graham perpetuate this nonsense.
 
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volinbham said:
I'm not a conspiracy guy but if I was I'd certainly have plenty of fodder from the DoJ, NSA, IRS, TSA, CIA, DEA, EPA, HHS, DoHS, etc.

Dolts like Lindsay Graham perpetuate this nonsense.
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Agreed, although, I have some tin foil on standby.
 
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T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security. NY Times.

..."With little fanfare, the agency best known for airport screenings has vastly expanded its reach to sporting events, music festivals, rodeos, highway weigh stations and train terminals...."

Observation: I would think the last place a terrorist would go is a rodeo. Stick out like a sore thumb and most people there have a carry permit.
 
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McDad said:
T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security. NY Times.

..."With little fanfare, the agency best known for airport screenings has vastly expanded its reach to sporting events, music festivals, rodeos, highway weigh stations and train terminals...."

Observation: I would think the last place a terrorist would go is a rodeo. Stick out like a sore thumb and most people there have a carry permit.
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How would they even get involved with a rodeo? Does the tsa just tell groups that they will be there? Are they invited?
 
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An interesting proposal:

House approves bill to give TSA-collected loose change to military groups | Fox News

The House on Tuesday approved legislation sponsored by Rep. Jeff Miller, R-Fla., that would require the TSA to transfer unclaimed money recovered from airport security checkpoints to nonprofit organizations that operate airport programs in support of the military.
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I like the fact it goes to military support groups. And I think the general public would by and large be perfectly fine with that as well. If you end up losing it, lose it for a good cause at least.

Do NOT like the fact TSA was sneaking around trying to keep it for their own use.
 
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utvolpj said:
very well stated but once a union like that is in place it's not going anywhere. The power and reach of the TSA is simply expanding and very few seem to care
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I do believe if Rand Paul is elected in 2016, eliminating the TSA will likely be one of his first actions.
 
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Grand Vol said:
An interesting proposal:

House approves bill to give TSA-collected loose change to military groups | Fox News



I like the fact it goes to military support groups. And I think the general public would by and large be perfectly fine with that as well. If you end up losing it, lose it for a good cause at least.

Do NOT like the fact TSA was sneaking around trying to keep it for their own use.
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This is what the GOP is up to in Congress???? Come on, DO SOMETHING !!!
 
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lawgator1 said:
This is what the GOP is up to in Congress???? Come on, DO SOMETHING !!!
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Now taking the politics out of it...and not sure how you connected it in the first place. Like connecting bananas and roofing shingles. Anyway, so would you rather have the loose change collected at security checkpoints going towards say Air Force Aid or the Marine Relief Fund

or

Going towards a new box of Nitrile gloves so they can feel up a 4 year old kid?

Choose wisely.
 
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Airport security guard makes diving catch to save falling child - SBNation.com

nice catch

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