Taiwan: We have to bomb TSMC in order to save it

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This is just idiotic.

It's a poison pill intended to deter a Chinese attack on Taiwan. China is seeking dominance that Taiwan has in the semiconductor industry. If it's vaporized before their eyes, then what's the sense of invading Taiwan? It's not so different than what keeps anyone from starting a nuclear war ... you loose, even if you "win".
 
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It's a poison pill intended to deter a Chinese attack on Taiwan. China is seeking dominance that Taiwan has in the semiconductor industry. If it's vaporized before their eyes, then what's the sense of invading Taiwan? It's not so different than what keeps anyone from starting a nuclear war ... you loose, even if you "win".

Understandable. Still idiotic.
 
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It's a poison pill intended to deter a Chinese attack on Taiwan. China is seeking dominance that Taiwan has in the semiconductor industry. If it's vaporized before their eyes, then what's the sense of invading Taiwan? It's not so different than what keeps anyone from starting a nuclear war ... you loose, even if you "win".
PRC’s primary reason for invading ROC won’t be the chip factories. It will be reunification and domination.
 
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It is most certainly one of their primary reasons now

Agree. China’s IT industry is based on stealing technology. They are banned from buying from ASML so they can’t build high end chips. They’d get to steal the EUV by invading Taiwan. The entire Taiwan Semi infrastructure wouldn’t need to be blown up. Just the ASML machines installed in TSM’s production facilities.
 
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It's a poison pill intended to deter a Chinese attack on Taiwan.
WTF do you mean "attack"? Taiwan is part of China. Even the United States recognizes this. How can you "attack" something that you already possess?

China is seeking dominance that Taiwan has in the semiconductor industry. If it's vaporized before their eyes, then what's the sense of invading Taiwan?
If TSMC is bombed, how does that help Taiwan in the long term? Even Taipei isn't in agreement with this nonsense. You have to destroy Taiwan in order to save it? I guess you want to salt the fields or use depleted uranium rounds also? You would have to be either dumb or evil (or maybe both) to go along with this idea. Typical American foreign policy.

It's not so different than what keeps anyone from starting a nuclear war ... you loose, even if you "win".
Uhhh, hey genius. Mutually Assured Destruction relies on the principle that both sides realize that if they choose to attack, the other side has equal capabilities and could do the same in retaliation.

So WTF do you think China would do if we start bombing their island province?
 
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Maybe the PRC will just let Taiwan Semi pack up their ASML equipment and move it over to India, North America, S Korea, and Vietnam. Surely the CCP doesn’t plan to keep stealing western technology.

Of course you destroy the extreme ultraviolet lithography machines if the CCP tries to take them. It’s a no-brainer. They’ve gotten away with IP theft for way too long.

The correct policy is to make Xi Jinping (and the world) know that is how it will play out. Factories don’t need to be flattened by dropping bombs on them. The ASML equipment just needs to be obliterated instead of allowing the CCP to put their filthy paws on it.
 
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It's a poison pill intended to deter a Chinese attack on Taiwan. China is seeking dominance that Taiwan has in the semiconductor industry. If it's vaporized before their eyes, then what's the sense of invading Taiwan? It's not so different than what keeps anyone from starting a nuclear war ... you loose, even if you "win".

China would just rebuild it. They don't have the red tape that America has. They need something built, they build it. Damn that speckled owl.
 
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WTF do you mean "attack"? Taiwan is part of China. Even the United States recognizes this. How can you "attack" something that you already possess?


If TSMC is bombed, how does that help Taiwan in the long term? Even Taipei isn't in agreement with this nonsense. You have to destroy Taiwan in order to save it? I guess you want to salt the fields or use depleted uranium rounds also? You would have to be either dumb or evil (or maybe both) to go along with this idea. Typical American foreign policy.


Uhhh, hey genius. Mutually Assured Destruction relies on the principle that both sides realize that if they choose to attack, the other side has equal capabilities and could do the same in retaliation.

So WTF do you think China would do if we start bombing their island province?
1. its an age old strategy that has been employed and worked many times. like the Brits bombing the french navy before the Vichy could give it to Germany. Or like the Russians burning down Moscow so that Napoleon would freeze in the Winter.
2. To the bolded you could ask the same for Russia and the Donbas? How does it long term help Russia to bomb the lands it wants? The Russians have been using depleted uranium rounds to "save" that land. Also might want to look up what the primary ingredient is in a bullet, because lead isn't good for the land either.
3. IF you could stop a war before it began by destroying one manufacturing plant that would be dumb or evil? Its not like we would have to blow up the entire island, or even kill anyone. Seems like a small price to pay.

Its not the strategy I would go with, especially if you see China as the long term opponent, but its a valid strategy. you just don't like it because the US is doing it.

And China clearly doesn't possess Taiwan. Here you go with weaselly words you so claim to hate.
"The U.S. position regarding sovereignty over Taiwan remains steady and consistent with its “one China policy”: both sides of the Taiwan Strait should mutually and peacefully agree to a resolution of this as yet unsettled issue. The United States doesn’t agree with Beijing’s claim to sovereignty over Taiwan, nor does it agree with Taipei that the ROC is an independent, sovereign state. "

Its a war that hasn't ended, how would we recognize one over the other if there is still technically a war going on over that very matter? at the same time we introduced the One China Policy we also introduced the Taiwan Relations Act establishing separate, continued, ties with Taiwan.

"The TRA sets forth the American Institute in Taiwan as the corporate entity dealing with U.S. relations with the island; makes clear that the U.S. decision to establish diplomatic relations with the People’s Republic of China rests upon the expectation that the future of Taiwan will be determined by peaceful means; considers any effort to determine the future of Taiwan by other than peaceful means, including by boycotts or embargoes, a threat to the peace and security of the Western Pacific area and of grave concern to the United States; mandates that the United States make available defensive arms to Taiwan; and requires that the United States maintain the capacity to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion that would jeopardize the security, or the social or economic system, of the people on Taiwan."

If you are going to be intellectually honest, a long shot for you, and you are going to bring up the One China Policy you should also bring up the contemporary, and similarly still practiced, TRA. Because right now you are hiding behind a narrow wording of the situation to make things seem wrong. The One China Policy is ONLY recognized IF the future of Taiwan is determined peacefully.
 
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China would just rebuild it. They don't have the red tape that America has. They need something built, they build it. Damn that speckled owl.
if its so easy for them why haven't they done this themselves on the mainland?

China doesn't have the technology. Heck I think a computer virus that wiped out all of the tech's software and memory would be just as good as a bomb. Leave them the hardware and let them scratch their heads.
 

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