Taliban Taking Over Afghanistan - Does anyone care?

[hog88]

He was right about the Chinese being the main threat

Huh?

On October 15, 1950, MacArthur had meeting with President Truman on Wake Island in the mid-Pacific. The general told the president that the war would be over by Thanksgiving and most troops would be home by Christmas. When Truman asked, “What will be the attitude of Commie China?” MacArthur said it would not intervene. Even if China tried, it could not get more than 50,000 troops across the Yalu River, MacArthur promised, citing his G2’s intelligence estimate. In fact, by October 19, 260,000 CFF soldiers had already crossed into Korea.

Catastrophe on the Yalu: America’s intelligence failure in Korea

 

[Tyler Durden]

When you advocate the overthrow of your government the risks are pretty well known. We simply cannot annex all of the non taliban afghanis out there.

No one is saying that. We are saying that if an Afghan helped our military then we need to do our part and get them out of there.

Yes there are huge risks when someone helps us out in a country we're at war with, and when they take those risks we need to do our part to ensure their safety when the time comes.

 

[Rifleman]

That is the risk they knew going in. I am not in favor of turning our backs on them, but that was the risk and they accepted it thinking their country men would fight. Instead they laid down their weapons at the first sight of toyota pickup.

It is sad, but the problem is just that: we just can't make a free and democratic Afghanistan out of people who'd rather be Americans than Afghanis.

It is not possible, no matter how hard the IC, the defense contractors and the military industrial complex screech (via their media proxies) that we can build the world in our image by force while their fat jowls suckle the teat of an endless war.

 

[InVOLuntary]

This is scary I agree with you on something. It would be wrong as hell for us to turn our back on any native Afghan who assisted us and their families. They will be slaughtered simply for assisting us.

It's all going to come down to whether they vote Democrat. We saw that with the Cubans.

 

[LouderVol]

What do you mean "arrived?" We're over there already.

I swear - it's like you guys watch CGTN all the time and just believe everything the Chinese say about themselves.

Afghanistan shows that you dont have to be more technologically advanced to defeat your foe.

Even if we have an advantage it doesnt mean we wouldnt take heavy losses. Our people dont have the stomach for it.

 

[NorthDallas40]

When you advocate the overthrow of your government the risks are pretty well known. We simply cannot annex all of the non taliban afghanis out there.

Nobody is saying bring in all non Taliban.

 

[Orangeburst]

Analysis: Afghan central bank's $10 billion stash mostly out of Taliban's reach

 

[KB5252]

No one is saying that. We are saying that if an Afghan helped our military then we need to do our part and get them out of there.

Yes there are huge risks when someone helps us out in a country we're at war with, and when they take those risks we need to do our part to ensure their safety when the time comes.

The cut bait exit strategy makes vetting, and accessing them next to impossible now unfortunately. Another direct result of abject failure by this administration. A slow phased withdrawal was in order, we pulled the plug in the tub and acted surprised when the water drained. Now good people that did the best they could to help us help their country will die needlessly.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Nobody is saying bring in all non Taliban.

Where is the line? How about all members of the government, the military, the women who dared get educated, people that expressed support on social media?

 

[RDU VOL#14]

No one is saying that. We are saying that if an Afghan helped our military then we need to do our part and get them out of there.

Yes there are huge risks when someone helps us out in a country we're at war with, and when they take those risks we need to do our part to ensure their safety when the time comes.

Reciprocation is a big deal and it’s a big reason why I feel strongly on this, just as I did when the Kurds were left out to dry.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Where is the line? How about all members of the government, the military, the women who dared get educated, people that expressed support on social media?

I’ve said where the line is. If they are known documented translators , etc… then we owe it to them. The ones that are left can chose to fight if they are worried.

 

[hog88]

Where is the line? How about all members of the government, the military, the women who dared get educated, people that expressed support on social media?

I don't know exactly where that line is but a line has to be drawn. I guess if I had to draw it it would be at Afgans who actively worked with US troops. Interpreters, informants ext.

 

[n_huffhines]

It's all going to come down to whether they vite Democrat. We saw that with the Cubans.

And now they vote Republican yet these unfounded fears about how immigrants will vote still plague the right.

 

[Velo Vol]

I'm not sure they do. But they should, it will happen sooner or later, I expect a dirty bomb.

It was easy to sell anti-terrorism campaigns when terrorism was fresh in everyone's minds. A different matter when it's been years since an attack. Hardly anyone even tries, except for the low-hanging, "Keep Musilims out of our country" crowd.

 

[05_never_again]

Does the average American still view a major terrorist attack as a legitimate risk?

Should they?

Not even really talking about terrorism - I mean a threat to the American homeland posed by a nation-state. That hasn't happened in many many decades and will not happen for the foreseeable future.

Outside of such a situation, I think the American people (and for good reason) have limited willingness to engage in overseas engagements.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

I don't know exactly where that line is but a line has to be drawn. I guess if I had to draw it it would be at Afgans who actively worked with US troops. Interpreters, informants ext.

I would think that anyone that accepted positions in the US puppet government would be warranted. And those soldiers trained by the US. How can you leave them out?

 

[Boston Vol]

I mean honestly

 

[NorthDallas40]

I mean honestly

Did they draw a red line though?

 

[ClearwaterVol]

I mean honestly

A very strongly worded press statement should get their attention.

 

[hog88]

I would think that anyone that accepted positions in the US puppet government would be warranted. And those soldiers trained by the US. How can you leave them out?

I disagree, they shouldn't be awarded a place in the big PX for giving up without a fight what we paid and bled for to give them.

 

[n_huffhines]

I mean honestly

This should satisfy the people complaining that Biden's speech didn't blame/condemn the Taliban.

 

[hog88]

I mean honestly

Whew! Since they put it in "very strongly worded terms" there is nothing to worry about. That's a relief.

 

[BreatheUT]

No one is saying that. We are saying that if an Afghan helped our military then we need to do our part and get them out of there.

Yes there are huge risks when someone helps us out in a country we're at war with, and when they take those risks we need to do our part to ensure their safety when the time comes.

Ensuring their safety shouldn't mean bringing them to this country. It could mean resettling them somewhere. It doesn't have to be here.

 

[BreatheUT]

I mean honestly

The definition of dumb. She is the same gump that was doing an apology tour and trashing the US.

 

[Orangeburst]

Idiots the lot of them