Taliban Taking Over Afghanistan - Does anyone care?

[DancingOutlaw]

The responses to this "release" from Trump are golden. Dear lord, what a clown he was.

I think a real clown would be someone who touted their extensive foreign relations knowledge and experience during the campaign but also is apparently shocked that the Afghan army rolled over the exact same way they've done when every invader has withdrawn for the last 200 years.

 

[OL SMOKEY]

I'm telling you guys, that's a troll account. Nobody can be that stupid. Ignore it and it will go away.

We can only hope!!!!

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Still not as dangerous as Chicago….
The US, its allies, and the Afghan government killed an average of 582 civilians per year from 2007 to 2016.

As of today, 405 of the 493 homicides in Chicago were black.

 

[evillawyer]

LMAO

 

[allvol123]

That desperation stinks so badly, a long hauler could smell it.

 

[Redleg68]

When CNN declares a democrat a failure, you know they have really hit rock bottom.
Analysis: Biden's presidency is under scrutiny as never before over Afghan chaos - CNNPolitics

I am afraid that Biden will be dealing with another major issue. They have frozen the assets of the Taliban government funds in banks. Afraid that they will pull an Iran and take hostages to force the release of the money.

 

[evillawyer]

 

[hog88]

I am afraid that Biden will be dealing with another major issue. They have frozen the assets of the Taliban government funds in banks. Afraid that they will pull an Iran and take hostages to force the release of the money.

They already have hostages. They're blocking the routes to the airport preventing our people from leaving.

 

[Redleg68]

They already have hostages. They're blocking the routes to the airport preventing our people from leaving.

I am afraid that this is going to really get ugly.

 

[rjd970]

Great photo. I feel like that phone rings too loudly and all hell breaks loose at some point in the next few minutes. Also, almost confirmed my theory Afghan men are either 5'2 or 6'7, no in-between. Guy on the right ruined it.

The phone is a good catch. I immediately look to see if it has a green or red sticker on it, lol.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

There are some excellent books that would make great movies, but Hollywood screws most of them up. Sometimes it's not all their fault because there's just so much of a good book that you can cram into a couple of hours without losing context. The thing that absolutely bends me out of shape is miscasting characters to keep up with the woke agenda or quotas and to make sure guys like Tom Cruise etc keep making millions. Several of DeMille's books are worthy of miniseries.

I agree. I do think some of the Clancy books like Hunt For Red October, Patriot Games and Clear and Present Danger were done well. Everything in Hollywood is obviously $ driven and certain actors bring in those dollars . I don’t really have a problem with Tom Cruise, I have more of a problem with Tom Cruise playing 6’7 Jack Reacher. No doubt though, that there are tons of great scripts that will never see the light of day bc studios need their comic book films.

 

[FLVOL_79]

The military leaves out of Kabul, which isn't a base.

Act first, think never?

 

[JOEY'S ALL VOL !!!]

I am afraid that this is going to really get ugly.

Uglier perhaps, but it’s already ugly, way more ugly than already advertised. To be honest about it, nobody would really want to see just how ugly it is, we are already seeing ugly, imagine the atrocities you aren’t seeing ... now multiply that x 1000.

It was never going to be pretty when we left regardless, but this withdrawal was a colossal failure of epic proportions, couldn’t have been handled any worse than it has been, it’s not surprising, but it is baffling how this administration of imbeciles could have sh!t the bed this badly.

 

[evillawyer]

The military leaves out of Kabul, which isn't a base.

Act first, think never?

So, as I said, after you bomb the bases to smithereens, you house the military in Airbnb's until you get em out?

 

[hndog609]

LMAO

Just to be playful with it there's some sense in that observation. Get everybody out except the military. Remove what you can, destroy the rest. The destroyers would be the military obviously. When that's all done...ahem...then you "bring out the military".

 

[hog88]

I am afraid that this is going to really get ugly.

Biden will pay them off.

 

[Grand Vol]

Biden will pay them off.

Pallet of cash into Kabul Airport after dark?

 

[Orangeburst]

Pallet of cash into Kabul Airport after dark?

Might as will ingress with something

 

[AM64]

Ever look at a world map man?

In your alternate reality, pick whatever country you think is the 2nd most powerful military after us....OK?

Now...tell us how the Hell they are gonna keep us from taking over Cuba???

If that analogy doesnt pull your head out of your arse a bit, we may need heavy equipment like a calf puller I guess.

Logistics matter. Distance matters. Having a country of 1.6 Billion people and their military a stones throw away matters. To think we could stop China from taking Taiwan without nuclear weapons or a draft and full commitment to WW3 by our government and population is stupid and juvenile....and guess how many people are willing to usher in WW3 over a tiny island nation in Asia in 2021? Yep. Bout ZERO

I've been thinking about this since last night, and I still don't fully agree, and still am not completely sure why I see a difference. You are right; Taiwan is largely un-defendable because of proximity, but there are a lot of issues.

The Nationalist Chinese hate China, and they will go to their own defense - hopefully they haven't turned into a nation of pansies like we have. Fairly recently (probably except for raw numbers) their military was considered stronger than China's military. So Taiwan will fight - which would be pretty different from other places we've tried to help.

If China were to invade Taiwan, it's likely the battle would decimate Taiwan. Other than chest thumping, what would China really gain from an island with all its manufacturing and industrial know how gutted.

We have a lot of assets in the region. Okinawa is very close in modern day distances, and we have several bases including an impressive AF base and munition storage capacity there. The Japanese themselves have quite a military presence there have - mostly self defense; they have taken over our old Hawk and Nike bases and put Patriots there. The Naha airport at the south end of the island has a squadron of F-15s and a Patriot battery, and they are at a safer distance.

The Chinese have an impressive AF on paper and a severe problem with engine durability - I guess with the population land mass they have, that may be logistically managed. Air power and missiles could decimate Taiwan, but again to what end other than chest thumping. Crossing water and getting onshore with a critical mass is still the kind of problem it always has been, and that's about the only way to take the island and preserve the industry.

If Taiwan were attacked, it would signal Chinese aggressive will to a number of other countries in the region - S Korea and Japan certainly would have a lot to lose and a lot to defend, and defense isn't always sitting back and waiting. Countries between Australia and Taiwan would have a lot to lose and probably most wouldn't see Chinese occupation as desirable - that can change odds - especially if the Philippines became our buddies again.

I wouldn't want to be the one calculating the odds and making the decisions, but I'm also not sure it's as bleak as it appears. We could certainly boycott everything Chinese (painfully thanks to globalists) in the event they attack Taiwan; with our trade and lax security we are certainly and stupidly guilty of funding and providing the technology and industry that made the Chinese military what it is. The big question is would the rest of the world boycott China with us. I guess I see Chinese invasion of Taiwan as potentially one of those win the battle and lose the war things for China ... all hinging on world willpower.

In the end I'd almost bet the Chinese just play the time honored long game, but the CCP does seem willing to be less rational and traditional.

 

[hog88]

Pallet of cash into Kabul Airport after dark?

Release the funds held in foreign banks and "humanitarian" aid.

 

[DancingOutlaw]

They already have hostages. They're blocking the routes to the airport preventing our people from leaving.

The reason they were able to get those helos off the ground for a demonstration was that they took the ANA pilots' families hostage.

 

[AM64]

Why do we need to expand immigration? Wouldn't it be more productive to increase the native population?

How about limiting population inflation and increasing the productivity of our population ... like maybe building stuff for our own use again ... like back to a sustainable future. Our steadily increasing debt is probably the best example of a country believing in consumerism, a service industry base, and insanely buying what we need from other countries.

 

[JOEY'S ALL VOL !!!]

Pallet of cash into Kabul Airport after dark?

And a few of Hunter’s “priceless” paintings. I mean those works of art gotta sweeten the deal tenfold.

 

[Orangeburst]

How about limiting population inflation and increasing the productivity of our population ... like maybe building stuff for our own use again ... like back to a sustainable future. Our steadily increasing debt is probably the best example of a country believing in consumerism, a service industry base, and insanely buying what we need from other countries.

I think we hit peak perfect pop about 25 years ago. Just crazy now. I honestly think it is to prop up the ponzi scheme SS and others, the votes and corporate labor needs. And we can always use more educated STEM employees. Just keep out the riff raff CCP
We do need laborers in plants and fields though. Just not tens of millions.

 

[Volaholic320]

US troops fire shots into the air and use teargas on desperate crowds as chaos at Kabul airport enters fifth day: Fighter jets on standby as Taliban block Westerners from reaching flights and only 2,000 are removed overnight - including just 300 Americans

• F-18 Hornets from the USS Ronald Reagan performed overwatch flights in Kabul overnight
• Not all have paperwork to be boarded, and they are being held back by US troops using teargas
• Some are becoming so desperate they are handing their babies and daughters to NATO troops over the walls

US troops used teargas and fired shots into the air on Wednesday night to control the increasingly desperate crowds of Afghans at the airport, while Taliban fighters blocked Westerners from getting to evacuation planes in a fifth day of chaos in Kabul.

US Air Force fighter jets are now on standby in Kabul and are performing overwatch flights as the shambolic rush to get tens of thousands of Westerners and Afghan allies out of the region continues.

It is the latest development in an increasingly tense situation on the ground in Kabul where the Taliban, which had promised peace, appears to be tightening its grip. Its fighters on the street are stopping people from getting to the airport, where jets are waiting to fly them to safety, and there are no troops there on the ground to retrieve them because they are all at the airport defending it from a stampede of frightened natives.

US troops clash with desperate Afghans at Kabul airport as the struggle to contain crowds of thousands of desperate nationals continues. The troops have resorted to using tear gas and firing warning shots to stop the crowds from scaling walls

US puts F-18 jets on standby in Kabul as evacuation chaos continues | Daily Mail Online

F18 cant protect Americas on the ground.