Taliban Taking Over Afghanistan - Does anyone care?

Do you care?

  • No

    Votes: 41 23.6%
  • Hell No

    Votes: 48 27.6%
  • Yes, we should invade and send in Troops

    Votes: 25 14.4%
  • I like Pie

    Votes: 60 34.5%

  • Total voters
    174
To a great extent don't you think that this is mistrust in a press that has been disingenuous - that their superficiality and sensationalism rather than hard honest investigative effort is paying negative dividends? Part 2 is the government and "announcements" that are either completely dishonest or are carefully worded to show that official efforts were more than or less than the true account. For example, the whole Trump/Russia investigations and impeachment; I'd consider it all a lie because it cloaked dishonesty and systemic abuse from one end to the other - how can you trust any of it?

I can agree that mistrust in the press has resulted in more need for verification. That includes, back up your anonymous source... and the docs they give you.
 
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It does when you have something to prove up the provenance of the doc other than the anonymous source.
At that point with document in hand it’s much easier. You point to it and ask the angry ginger “is this real?” You get either no or “not no”. If it’s no they will say no it’s in their best interest to do so 🤷‍♂️
 
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At that point with document in hand it’s much easier. You point to it and ask the angry ginger “is this real?” You get either no or “not no”. If it’s no they will say no it’s in their best interest to do so 🤷‍♂️

You can do the same with an anonymous source. Angry Ginger has the same options.
 

Definitely, but different things for different people. Many in the military probably learned that people at the top didn't appear to know what they were doing. A lot of us probably became more solidified in our view that knowing the history, only a fool would do anything other than ignore Afghanistan.

But the people who learned the most were the ones who earned the most from the experience. There's a lot of money to be made when you contract big parts of a conflict and "nation building", and we've never really done it on this scale before. The big payoff was almost certainly members of congress (personally), the owners of the war for profit gangs, and great landing spots for retired military and DOD personnel who helped direct contracts to the war for profit gangs. This opened a whole new war for profit scheme; where before it was confined to expendables and hardware and you could more or less observe the effectiveness. Now you can blame duds on people who just can't get it instead of faulty hardware.
 

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