Taliban Taking Over Afghanistan - Does anyone care?

Do you care?

  • No

    Votes: 41 23.6%

  • Hell No

    Votes: 48 27.6%

  • Yes, we should invade and send in Troops

    Votes: 25 14.4%

  • I like Pie

    Votes: 60 34.5%
  • Total voters
    174
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#4,927
utvolpj said:
What did I state that was untrue? I just find all this outrage to be very opportunistic
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I agree and can understand this sentiment to a certain extent. But the math has changed here. The military is tuned towards a civilian management and evac operation while under siege. And at the will of two competing groups who really don't care whether they hurt, maime and kill. This was largely avoidable.
 
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This seemed like a perfect opportunity for some group to attack. American civilians, American soldiers, Afghan civilians, Taliban and in one area, probably lots of confusion and crowds. Seems like an easy target. Being poorly handled by the Biden admin will make it doubly effective for them on coverage.
 
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tnmarktx said:
The abandonment of Americans in Afghanistan by this administration, is unforgivable.
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Why? If you're hanging out in Afghanistan in August of 2021 you have to understand the dangers. If you take a school trip there you're a bunch of morons
 
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utvolpj said:
Sure but which side does it fall on when compared to the casualties from the past 4-8yrs that haven't even been reported outside of DoD press release and a local paper
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I totally get what you are saying, but all we can fix is today and America just has to be better than this. The end was going to be tough no matter when it happened, but putting in an artificial deadline, closing the airbase and basically telling everybody "Good luck getting to the airport" was just not smart.
 
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GAVol said:
Some of it is opportunistic, but not unjustified. This withdrawal has been bungled and put civilians in danger.
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No argument from me. But I find it hard to believe it would be that much better with anybody else in the WH. It's the "what if" argument nobody can win. All we know for a fact is Biden is the president that actually decided to do this so he owns it. All the other presidents before wouldn't give it anything other than sound bites and promises while kicking this can down the road.
 
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utvolpj said:
Why? If you're hanging out in Afghanistan in August of 2021 you have to understand the dangers. If you take a school trip there you're a bunch of morons
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Did they get intelligence briefings that stated that Afghanistan would be taken over within weeks? Your complete lack of human decency that you have toward fellow American citizens says a lot about you.
 
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GAVol said:
I totally get what you are saying, but all we can fix is today and America just has to be better than this. The end was going to be tough no matter when it happened, but putting in an artificial deadline, closing the airbase and basically telling everybody "Good luck getting to the airport" was just not smart.
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Oh it's been terrible but when govt is involved...

I think giving up baghram may give been one of the biggest errors in logistics I've seen. Limiting it to one airfield was crazy. Hopefully it comes out who made that decision
 
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jaybird_1981 said:
I haven't seen anyone post that getting out of Afghanistan was a bad thing. The criticism is with the way the current admin is handling it. They have failed.
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There was no way not to fail irrespective who sat behind the resolute desk.

At least now you guys can finally have some relief that there were terrorist attacks and people were killed.
 
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utvolpj said:
Oh it's been terrible but when govt is involved...

I think giving up baghram may give been one of the biggest errors in logistics I've seen. Limiting it to one airfield was crazy. Hopefully it comes out who made that decision
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The airfield decision and the deadline are just unconscionable. The whole G7 took one look and thought we were nuts.
 
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