Tankers Attacked In Gulf: Price of Oil Up

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utvolpj said:
So we continue until we provoke a war? That strategy is always solid
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Sanctions were chosen to prevent a war. I am just saying expect kicking and scratching before we get what we want. They are not just going to turn over the keys to the nuclear facility using this method. They are going to lash out, and remember this is a 3rd world military operation similar to all the others we have seen and attempted to train, expect errors in communication. I don't think this is provoking war because war is not a road that Iran wants to travel down. War is the end of their regime. Trying to provoke a war with sanctions would be a waste of time and money.
 
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IPleadInsanity said:
I think what was supposed to happen happened. The military, after getting hit, wanted to retaliate hard. The civilian in charge decided it was not justifiable. I agree with his decision. We have taken the sanctions road to get them to stop making nuclear weapons. This road has risk, of course they are going to retaliate once the noose starts to tighten economically. Surely it was expected. You can't change course and go to war because they start kicking and scratching. Just keep tightening the noose and expect trouble.
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You say "of course" and "it was expected" that they would try to retaliate.

So can we stop saying that this was an "unprovoked" action?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
You say "of course" and "it was expected" that they would try to retaliate.

So can we stop saying that this was an "unprovoked" action?
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Well what is your opinion on what to expect to happen when you clamp down with sanctions on a nation? Of course we are provoking them, their currency is being used for toilet paper because it's cheaper! We have applied a stranglehold waiting for them to tap out. Provoked, LOL, yes they have been provoked.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
Their SAM they used is some of the newer tech from Russia or China? Does it use radar to lock?
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"new tech" from Russia or China is still antiquated garbage. It probably was just a radar guided missile...most drones aren't stealthy or equipped with electronic warfare counter measures.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
So the Iranians lied again in the details of the shootdown. They said the MQ-4 was at 50,000ft. That’s not true. The P-8 video clearly shows its altitude at 22,000ft with their camera depression angle about 6 degrees down. Thus the MQ-4 was below 22000 ft even. View attachment 209724
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Remember..Iran also showed this image as a show of strenght...even though it was faker than pop musician song writing credits:

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In an Iranian Image, a Missile Too Many
 
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utvolpj said:
Not knowing how many people for in an obscure aircraft is a lie? Wow, you're going to be really busy if that's your baseline for callouts
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He was previously told there were 5. He chose to ignore those facts and believe his foreign source or whatever he was quoting. But hey, dodge away. Your MO.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
He was previously told there were 5. He chose to ignore those facts and believe his foreign source or whatever he was quoting. But hey, dodge away. Your MO.
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how the heck do I know what he's been told and believes? Ask him

Of course you spent time yesterday liking and supporting posts that were 100% wrong and you choose to ignore it. Just admit being a hypocrite and move along
 
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utvolpj said:
how the heck do I know what he's been told and believes? Ask him

Of course you spent time yesterday liking and supporting posts that were 100% wrong and you choose to ignore it. Just admit being a hypocrite and move along
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How were they 100% wrong? You have absolutely no clue what Barry would have done faced with the same situation as Trump. Had Trump been so adamant about bump stocks he would have written an EO immediately upon taking office. He didn't, he responded after a shooting. THE SAME WAY barry would have had he been faced with the same thing. You cannot prove that statement wrong. All you can say is hey, hindsight is 20/20 and you are wrong. Get over yourself PJ, get some consistency in your life and fiber in your diet. You would be much happier.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
How were they 100% wrong? You have absolutely no clue what Barry would have done faced with the same situation as Trump. Had Trump been so adamant about bump stocks he would have written an EO immediately upon taking office. He didn't, he responded after a shooting. THE SAME WAY barry would have had he been faced with the same thing. You cannot prove that statement wrong. All you can say is hey, hindsight is 20/20 and you are wrong. Get over yourself PJ, get some consistency in your life and fiber in your diet. You would be much happier.
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There were plenty of shootings when Obama was in office. Still had the same gun rights when he left. We now have less switch a repub potus. The math is easy so defend the crap as much as you would like. It's funny to watch you tap dance around
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
How were they 100% wrong? You have absolutely no clue what Barry would have done faced with the same situation as Trump. Had Trump been so adamant about bump stocks he would have written an EO immediately upon taking office. He didn't, he responded after a shooting. THE SAME WAY barry would have had he been faced with the same thing. You cannot prove that statement wrong. All you can say is hey, hindsight is 20/20 and you are wrong. Get over yourself PJ, get some consistency in your life and fiber in your diet. You would be much happier.
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By their nature libs can't be happy
 
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