Tea parties....

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volinbham said:
I believe the intent is not protesting high taxes; at least not current high taxes.

Instead, it is protesting SPENDING - particularly the aggressive spending that has currently taken place and is proposed by the current administration. The revolt is about the vast ramping up of deficit spending and the inevitable FUTURE tax policies that will be required to deal with the spending.
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In other words, its a ruse just to have an anti-Obama rally, correct?

Why not just call it that?
 
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lawgator1 said:
I agree 1000 %.

But that is not what tomorrow is going to be about for the vast majority of the people showing up.
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What do you base that assumption on? These tea parties are protests against high government spending. Do you think that most of the people planning to show up are so ignorant as to think that the President is the only one that has an effect on that?
 
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lawgator1 said:
I agree 1000 %.

But that is not what tomorrow is going to be about for the vast majority of the people showing up.
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I tend to think (and hope) that the vast majority are protesting the excessive spending of all politicians. If it ends up just being about Obama and democrats, then the whole thing will be wasted and looked upon as partisan hypocrisy.
 
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lawgator1 said:
In other words, its a ruse just to have an anti-Obama rally, correct?

Why not just call it that?
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No. Again you are using the same dismissive language that Tea Party critics use.

It is about out of control government spending. Republican Congressional members that supported the TARP, stimulus package and some of the current administration's proposals are also being criticized. Likewise, the free-spending actions of W are considered part of the problem.

You are making this more anti-Obama and partisan that the general intent. It is a small government/libertarian event at it's core.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I agree 1000 %.

But that is not what tomorrow is going to be about for the vast majority of the people showing up.
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Lord there you go telling us what other people's motivations are. Why do you claim to speak for people that you don't relate to at all?
 
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paul1454 said:
What do you base that assumption on? These tea parties are protests against high government spending. Do you think that most of the people planning to show up are so ignorant as to think that the President is the only one that has an effect on that?
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Yes, I do think the vast majority that will show up are that stupid. I think its going to be about 5 percent fairtax/flattax proponents and the rest a bunch of gsvol and joevol clones with "Hussein" and "A-rab" handmade signs.


vols4sure said:
I tend to think (and hope) that the vast majority are protesting the excessive spending of all politicians. If it ends up just being about Obama and democrats, then the whole thing will be wasted and looked upon as partisan hypocrisy.
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Then prepare to be disappointed.


volinbham said:
No. Again you are using the same dismissive language that Tea Party critics use.

It is about out of control government spending. Republican Congressional members that supported the TARP, stimulus package and some of the current administration's proposals are also being criticized. Likewise, the free-spending actions of W are considered part of the problem.

You are making this more anti-Obama and partisan that the general intent. It is a small government/libertarian event at it's core.
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Wait until tomorrow.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Yes, I do think the vast majority that will show up are that stupid. I think its going to be about 5 percent fairtax/flattax proponents and the rest a bunch of gsvol and joevol clones with "Hussein" and "A-rab" handmade signs.





Then prepare to be disappointed.





Wait until tomorrow.
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like the libs who believed George Bush hated black ppl? ridiculous
 
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lawgator1 said:
Yes, I do think the vast majority that will show up are that stupid. I think its going to be about 5 percent fairtax/flattax proponents and the rest a bunch of gsvol and joevol clones with "Hussein" and "A-rab" handmade signs.





Then prepare to be disappointed.





Wait until tomorrow.
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I plan to attend the one in Birmingham - which group do I fall in?
 
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Vol Mania 21 said:
like the libs who believed George Bush hated black ppl? ridiculous
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Not so much as hated as indifferent.


volinbham said:
I plan to attend the one in Birmingham - which group do I fall in?
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Its not a question of location. I have no doubt but that you personally 1) will be there to protest high taxes and wasteful spending; 2) that you will find that the majority of the people there with you are much more about hating Obama than anything else; but 3) that you will overlook that fact, both consciously and unconsciously, because you do not want to believe that you got flamboozled into lending your support to what will basically just be an anti-Obama rally.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Its not a question of location. I have no doubt but that you personally 1) will be there to protest high taxes and wasteful spending; 2) that you will find that the majority of the people there with you are much more about hating Obama than anything else; but 3) that you will overlook that fact, both consciously and unconsciously, because you do not want to believe that you got flamboozled into lending your support to what will basically just be an anti-Obama rally.
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Wait a minute - you are the one predicting the outcome without really understanding the underlying focus of the event but somehow I'm the one who won't be able to provide objective reporting due to my bias and cognitive dissonance?

Let's apply your logic to your own views:

1. You have a preconceived yet incorrect view of what the intent of these events is.
2. You have a preconceived notion of the "true" motivations of 95% of attendees.
3. You will not attend so you will rely on media coverage.
4. You will ignore any signs that these were about wasteful government spending.
5. You will see only indications that the crowd are fear-mongering, racists that hate Obama.
6. Any information you are exposed to that refutes your pre-constructed view will be dismissed as biased right-wing propaganda.

Congratulations on your open-minded world view.
 
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#44
Things you're not going to see at one of the upcoming tea parties:

a US flag being burned

"free Mumia" signs

asshats like Ward Churchill, Ramsey Clarke, and Noam Chomsky

the President being burned in effigy

anti-semitic hate groups

Code Pink, GLAAD, NAMBLA, ACORN, MECHA, La Raza, etc.

dolts wearing Che t-shirts



The Tea Parties will have their share of freakshows, and if CNN and MSNBC have their way, that's all we'll see on their broadcasts, to the detriment of the actual message and meaning of the protests.
 
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volinbham said:
Wait a minute - you are the one predicting the outcome without really understanding the underlying focus of the event but somehow I'm the one who won't be able to provide objective reporting due to my bias and cognitive dissonance?
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I fully confess that I am just predicting what these things will really be like. We will see tomorrow if I am right.



MG1968 said:
Things you're not going to see at one of the upcoming tea parties:

a US flag being burned

"free Mumia" signs

asshats like Ward Churchill, Ramsey Clarke, and Noam Chomsky

the President being burned in effigy

anti-semitic hate groups

Code Pink, GLAAD, NAMBLA, ACORN, MECHA, La Raza, etc.

dolts wearing Che t-shirts



The Tea Parties will have their share of freakshows, and if CNN and MSNBC have their way, that's all we'll see on their broadcasts, to the detriment of the actual message and meaning of the protests.
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Things you will see:

1. French, United Nations, and Middle East flags being burned. You may not have a problem with that and I don't care. But it will nonetheless prove my point that these rallies, for most there, have nothing to do with tax policy and everything to do with rallying in opposiiton to the boogey-man.

2. Signs that call Obama "Hussein" (or worse), signs that call Pelosi something or another, signs that promote carpet-bombing all Muslim countries. Again, people are free to tout these views, and they may even be right about this that or the other. But it will just not be about tax policy.

3. You will see the president being burned (or hung) in effigy somewhere, and you will see a ton of anti-Obama slogans and seintment, because that is what these rallies will actually be about.




I would love to be proven wrong about this. I have no problem at all with anti-tax rallies or protests of fiscal irresponsibility. If I really thought that was what the one in Orlando was going to be about, I might go, myself. But I really doubt it. A lot.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I fully confess that I am just predicting what these things will really be like. We will see tomorrow if I am right.






Things you will see:

1. French, United Nations, and Middle East flags being burned. You may not have a problem with that and I don't care. But it will nonetheless prove my point that these rallies, for most there, have nothing to do with tax policy and everything to do with rallying in opposiiton to the boogey-man.

2. Signs that call Obama "Hussein" (or worse), signs that call Pelosi something or another, signs that promote carpet-bombing all Muslim countries. Again, people are free to tout these views, and they may even be right about this that or the other. But it will just not be about tax policy.

3. You will see the president being burned (or hung) in effigy somewhere, and you will see a ton of anti-Obama slogans and seintment, because that is what these rallies will actually be about.




I would love to be proven wrong about this. I have no problem at all with anti-tax rallies or protests of fiscal irresponsibility. If I really thought that was what the one in Orlando was going to be about, I might go, myself. But I really doubt it. A lot.
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i can laugh at that article, like you laughed at foxnews article. how do i know this guy isn't pro obama?
 
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