Tea parties....

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lawgator1 said:
I fully confess that I am just predicting what these things will really be like. We will see tomorrow if I am right.






Things you will see:

1. French, United Nations, and Middle East flags being burned. You may not have a problem with that and I don't care. But it will nonetheless prove my point that these rallies, for most there, have nothing to do with tax policy and everything to do with rallying in opposiiton to the boogey-man.

2. Signs that call Obama "Hussein" (or worse), signs that call Pelosi something or another, signs that promote carpet-bombing all Muslim countries. Again, people are free to tout these views, and they may even be right about this that or the other. But it will just not be about tax policy.

3. You will see the president being burned (or hung) in effigy somewhere, and you will see a ton of anti-Obama slogans and seintment, because that is what these rallies will actually be about.




I would love to be proven wrong about this. I have no problem at all with anti-tax rallies or protests of fiscal irresponsibility. If I really thought that was what the one in Orlando was going to be about, I might go, myself. But I really doubt it. A lot.
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The only thing I think you will see in any significance is what I put in bold. Of course you will see anti-Obama slogans and sentiment. The protests are about excessive spending and Obama is the poster boy for excessive spending.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I typed in "tax tea party" in Google for news and this is the FIRST result that came up:

Tea Party Society sets Tax Day protests across Houston | Top stories | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

If you don;t think this will be about Obama, read this article.
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Yeah nice link:

But local organizers insist the rallies are not about partisan politics because both sides are to blame.

The Bush administration started the bailouts, they said, opening the door for the Obama administration’s attempts to get out of the economic crisis.

“People think this is about President Obama, but it’s not,” said Marilyn Jordan, an organizer of the Fort Bend Tea Party. “It is about making a change in government. They’re making bad decisions. These stimulus bills are out of control. I’ve worked hard all my life and no one has given me a handout.”
 
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lawgator1 said:
I typed in "tax tea party" in Google for news and this is the FIRST result that came up:

Tea Party Society sets Tax Day protests across Houston | Top stories | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

If you don;t think this will be about Obama, read this article.
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Which part did you not read:

Felicia Cravens and her friends call themselves the Houston Tea Party Society, part of a national movement in which thousands of people in cities across the country plan to stage Tax Day Tea Parties on Wednesday to protest the federal government’s billion-dollar economic stimulus packages and bailouts for the banking and auto industries. Tea parties are planned for nearly a dozen cities in the Houston area, including Sugar Land, The Woodlands, Friendswood and Pearland.
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“The message to the politicians is, we want them to repeal the ridiculous spending and the out-of -control financial shenanigans or we’re going to retire them,” said Cravens, a Katy resident and part-time teacher.
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“I think people are sick and tired,” Woodfill said. “Obama is taking the financial crisis and reshaping the country in the way he feels the best and turning it into something they don’t recognize. I think it’s the beginning of a large anti-tax movement.”
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Critics have derided the Tea Parties as a phony movement drummed up by Republicans angry that Barack Obama won the presidency.
But local organizers insist the rallies are not about partisan politics because both sides are to blame.
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Notice the people organizing say what it's for but "critics" are making up their own version of what it is about (sound familiar). Notice the organizers say it's about both parties?

“People think this is about President Obama, but it’s not,” said Marilyn Jordan, an organizer of the Fort Bend Tea Party. “It is about making a change in government. They’re making bad decisions. These stimulus bills are out of control. I’ve worked hard all my life and no one has given me a handout.”
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Repeatedly throughout the article the organizers say what it is about and why they are doing it. It is all about small government, eliminating wasteful spending and being more responsible with the people's money. There is one reference from a supporter about Obama but it is not about him being a muslim - it is about his economic policies of big government spending.

You choose to ignore the words of the organizers themselves. Do you think they are lying? Do you think they don't understand their own motivations?
 
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volinbham said:
Which part did you not read:









Notice the people organizing say what it's for but "critics" are making up their own version of what it is about (sound familiar). Notice the organizers say it's about both parties?



Repeatedly throughout the article the organizers say what it is about and why they are doing it. It is all about small government, eliminating wasteful spending and being more responsible with the people's money. There is one reference from a supporter about Obama but it is not about him being a muslim - it is about his economic policies of big government spending.

You choose to ignore the words of the organizers themselves. Do you think they are lying? Do you think they don't understand their own motivations?
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he doesn't see into the organizers' souls as he does Joe Sixpack. LG reads Joe Average like a freaking clock.
 
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Tomorrow will tell the tale. For those of you going, I'd be interested to hear the ratio of signs that are limited to criticizing fiscal irresponsibility BY ALL parties versus those that either blame it squarely on Obama or Democrats, or which are just about attacking Obama and not at all about fiscal responsibility.

My guess as to breakdown:

Criticize all government, without naming a person or party, for taxes that are too high: 20 percent

Criticize solely Democrats or Obama by name for fiscal irresponsibility: 60 percent

Reference Obama as a Muslim or some such nonsense: 20 percent
 
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lawgator1 said:
Tomorrow will tell the tale. For those of you going, I'd be interested to hear the ratio of signs that are limited to criticizing fiscal irresponsibility BY ALL parties versus those that either blame it squarely on Obama or Democrats, or which are just about attacking Obama and not at all about fiscal responsibility.

My guess as to breakdown:

Criticize all government, without naming a person or party, for taxes that are too high: 20 percent

Criticize solely Democrats or Obama by name for fiscal irresponsibility: 60 percent

Reference Obama as a Muslim or some such nonsense: 20 percent
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you left out the group that will proclaim to speak for everyone else.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Tomorrow will tell the tale. For those of you going, I'd be interested to hear the ratio of signs that are limited to criticizing fiscal irresponsibility BY ALL parties versus those that either blame it squarely on Obama or Democrats, or which are just about attacking Obama and not at all about fiscal responsibility.

My guess as to breakdown:

Criticize all government, without naming a person or party, for taxes that are too high: 20 percent

Criticize solely Democrats or Obama by name for fiscal irresponsibility: 60 percent

Reference Obama as a Muslim or some such nonsense: 20 percent
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unbelievable.

what are your ties to the democrat/green/socialist party?

only someone with links to some pretty far left organizations can be so afraid of tomorrow's Tea Parties. Yes, you will probably see much criticism of Obama, but guess what HE'S THE PRESIDENT!!!

I get the impression that you could care less about things like this.

How dare we disagree with Obama.
 
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pantone151 said:
No one can bad mouth the president now.
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I get the impression that should the Department of Homeland Security begin prosecuting those that dare criticize Obama, LG will jump on that prosecutorial bandwagon.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Tomorrow will tell the tale. For those of you going, I'd be interested to hear the ratio of signs that are limited to criticizing fiscal irresponsibility BY ALL parties versus those that either blame it squarely on Obama or Democrats, or which are just about attacking Obama and not at all about fiscal responsibility.

My guess as to breakdown:

Criticize all government, without naming a person or party, for taxes that are too high: 20 percent

Criticize solely Democrats or Obama by name for fiscal irresponsibility: 60 percent

Reference Obama as a Muslim or some such nonsense: 20 percent
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At least you are down from your earlier prediction of 95% for the last category.

I'd say since 60% or more of the advocates for big spending government are Congressional democrats and the Obama administration that 60% of the criticism should be directed that way.
 
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How many of you teabaggers attended teabagging parties during w's 8 years of deficit spending I sure do not recall any going on but hell I'm sure you all will have a lovely time bemoaning the fact the gop is in complete disarray after the last 2 DESTRUCTIVE BEATDOWNS they have suffered.Hell maybe you all acn breakout your SORELOSERman stickers and plaster them to your head cause in my opinion that is what this is all about.:p
 
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DAVOL said:
How many of you teabaggers attended teabagging parties during w's 8 years of deficit spending I sure do not recall any going on but hell I'm sure you all will have a lovely time bemoaning the fact the gop is in complete disarray after the last 2 DESTRUCTIVE BEATDOWNS they have suffered.Hell maybe you all acn breakout your SORELOSERman stickers and plaster them to your head cause in my opinion that is what this is all about.:p
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It is valid that people are apathetic. I guess going from a 450 billion dollar deficit to a 1.75 trillion dollar deficit proves to be enough of a factor to get people moving.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Freakin hilarious.

The story begins "Some worry..." about ACORN backlash at the parties. Makes them appear under siege.

But who is "some"? The article quotes the tea party people as saying they aren't worried, so its not the tea party people that are the source of this dramatic and important concern.

Know who "some" is? I do. They don't exist. Its a fabricated concern to once again go after ACORN, who may or may not deserve it.

Its like liberal media doind a story that "Some people are worried that all Republicans eat their children alive" and then discounting it.

What a freakin joke this network is.
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Directly from the article you pretended to read:

"We don't take them seriously," said Mark Mekler, who is organizing a tea party in Sacramento. "We expect people to attempt to infiltrate, we expect people to attempt to disturb what we're doing.

You can go ahead and delete all of your posts in this thread.
 
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DAVOL said:
How many of you teabaggers attended teabagging parties during w's 8 years of deficit spending I sure do not recall any going on but hell I'm sure you all will have a lovely time bemoaning the fact the gop is in complete disarray after the last 2 DESTRUCTIVE BEATDOWNS they have suffered.Hell maybe you all acn breakout your SORELOSERman stickers and plaster them to your head cause in my opinion that is what this is all about.:p
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I dislike W more than you will ever be capable of and I greatly dislike Obama because all he is doing is putting steroids in W's plan and making things a 1,000% worse!

Did you ever explain why you love government so much?
 
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I didn't agree with the out of control spending that Washington perpetrated during Clinton and Bush, but they weren't as radical with the agenda spending as Obama has been and will continue to be with a Democratic controlled Hill. He even campaigned on taking control of Washington's out of control spending, guess that was a lie.
 
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Vol Mania 21 said:
you're really offended that ppl criticize obama aren't you
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OrangeEmpire said:
Ding, ding, ding...

It helps with his white guilt.
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MG1968 said:
I get the impression that should the Department of Homeland Security begin prosecuting those that dare criticize Obama, LG will jump on that prosecutorial bandwagon.
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You guys do not get it. I, LG, personally criticize Obama for some significant portions of the stimulus package. I think he let the Congress get away with WAY too much in terms of pork.

I have zero problem with folks complaining about that and think it a perfectly valid issue. Those showing up tomorrow to complain about that -- as is the advertised purpose of these rallies -- you have my support.

That is, as long as your criticism is tempered with the fact that spending in the Bush years, and by the Republican Congress, was as bad if not worse in many respects.

I just think you are going to be way outnumbered by the freakazoids like gsvol and joevol who see this simply as an opportunity to continue the mantra of hate.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I just think you are going to be way outnumbered by the freakazoids like gsvol and joevol who see this simply as an opportunity to continue the mantra of hate.
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I'll only permit you to make these sort of statements if you temper them with the admission that you were the exact same type of freakazoid for the past eight years and still haven't fully recovered.
 
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kptvol said:
I'll only permit you to make these sort of statements if you temper them with the admission that you were the exact same type of freakazoid for the past eight years and still haven't fully recovered.
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I see "guru" in your avatar, not "mod."
 
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lawgator1 said:
But this tactic of artificially creating "worry" so as to justify rallying conservatives has become a Fox staple.
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So your saying that the liberal biased media hasn't done the same to make people believe that we are in "the worst recession since the Great Depression"?? Surely they didn't forget Carter?? Oh wait, he's a democrat and a great American who is completely withdrawn from ever being able to be criticized or questioned. Jimmy Carter was an idiot for the most part with any foreign policy he was a part of and also any economic policy as well. Obama is not that far from being Carter the 2nd and on an even bigger scale.
 
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