Ted Nugent on Parkland Kids

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TennTom said:
Getting your news from far-right sources like The Hill and Washington Examiner and spread on Reddit. Yeah, OK.

Local media source Sun Sentinel:
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No, I got it from Hunter’s parents. It doesn’t get any more direct than that.
 
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114VOL said:
:lolabove:

Why don't you provide a post of mine that would support your immature claim of me. I can provide many of yours that support mine.

Don't break a sweat.
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You're arguing with someone who uses ad hominems in almost every post. Some people are simply not interested or are incapable of debating a topic rationally.
 
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Vol_Doc said:
That may be true, but gun sales very obviously rose with Obama in office and dropped when Trump was elected. That seemed to be the tipping point for Remington. When the threat of gun control is highest, so are sales. That's well-established.
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I don't disagree, but plenty of gun manufacturers go out of business under Democrat and Republican Presidents. One can't say "Remington went under because of Trump."

Remington's biggest problems, which were long before Trump, were:

Bad business practices: Namely trying to sell on a name at a way higher price than their competition. They were getting the brakes beat off them by companies like Savage, Ruger and Mossberg since they were quality at a far lower price than your traditional Remington. Additionally, they tried (and failed miserably) to introduce a modern concealed carry version of a pistol (the R51) that went boobs up as soon as it hit the market. A lot of time and funds were invested in trying to make that a big hit only to be an utter failure from the start. Additionally, they tried introducing a 1911 like damn near everyone else that did nothing special yet had the "Remington" name on the slide which they thought would make it sell. Not at the price though. Also, they tried (and failed) to gain an M4 contract for the military. Until they backed off their lawsuit:

BREAKING: Remington M4 Lawsuit DISMISSED by Judge at Remington's Request - The Firearm BlogThe Firearm Blog

That might have kept them afloat for a few years, but the writing was on the wall even then.

Not keeping up with market trends: The market, by and large, has been trending towards pistols and ARs in the past decade. Namely CCW sized pistols. I won't mention the R51 again, but their AR line was overpriced and not even produced by Remington (if memory serves, it was on the DPMS or Bushmaster lines) yet had that Remington name on the side they charged the price for. They failed (as Colt is doing as well) to keep up with the changing market and they paid the price for it.

Bad QC: Too numerous to list, but starting with their safety recall a few years ago. And then the R51 disaster. So on and so forth. Their name was tarnished long before they declared bankruptcy.

Anyway, they thought (unwisely) that people would just buy a higher priced product because it had the "Remington" name on it and be happy. They thought wrong and paid the price for it.
 
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114VOL said:
:lolabove:

Why don't you provide a post of mine that would support your immature claim of me. I can provide many of yours that support mine.

Don't break a sweat.
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I don’t break sweat for sheep. You can look on the last page where you showed your feelings were badly hurt by my words regarding your lord and savior, David Hogg. Lmao

You should try learning about racism first. Baby steps.
 
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TennTom said:
You and I both know that the 2nd isn't going to be repealed. Are you even aware of the requirements? They're very stringent for a reason. It's absurd to even discuss it. Having common sense reform should be everyone's goal to make schools, parks, malls, airports, arenas, stadiums, etc. safer. What we are doing now is not working. The system is broken. Would you not agree?
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When you use the “buzz words” common sense or reasonable and rational, we know where you are coming from.

You have no ideas other than bans or restrictions and neither are reasonable, rational or demonstrate common sense.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I don't disagree, but plenty of gun manufacturers go out of business under Democrat and Republican Presidents. One can't say "Remington went under because of Trump."

Remington's biggest problems, which were long before Trump, were:

Bad business practices: Namely trying to sell on a name at a way higher price than their competition. They were getting the brakes beat off them by companies like Savage, Ruger and Mossberg since they were quality at a far lower price than your traditional Remington. Additionally, they tried (and failed miserably) to introduce a modern concealed carry version of a pistol (the R51) that went boobs up as soon as it hit the market. A lot of time and funds were invested in trying to make that a big hit only to be an utter failure from the start. Additionally, they tried introducing a 1911 like damn near everyone else that did nothing special yet had the "Remington" name on the slide which they thought would make it sell. Not at the price though. Also, they tried (and failed) to gain an M4 contract for the military. Until they backed off their lawsuit:

BREAKING: Remington M4 Lawsuit DISMISSED by Judge at Remington's Request - The Firearm BlogThe Firearm Blog

That might have kept them afloat for a few years, but the writing was on the wall even then.

Not keeping up with market trends: The market, by and large, has been trending towards pistols and ARs in the past decade. Namely CCW sized pistols. I won't mention the R51 again, but their AR line was overpriced and not even produced by Remington (if memory serves, it was on the DPMS or Bushmaster lines) yet had that Remington name on the side they charged the price for. They failed (as Colt is doing as well) to keep up with the changing market and they paid the price for it.

Bad QC: Too numerous to list, but starting with their safety recall a few years ago. And then the R51 disaster. So on and so forth. Their name was tarnished long before they declared bankruptcy.

Anyway, they thought (unwisely) that people would just buy a higher priced product because it had the "Remington" name on it and be happy. They thought wrong and paid the price for it.
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So, capitalism wins? 😁
 
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Vol_Doc said:
So, capitalism wins? 😁
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Pretty much.

I'll give you Democrats drive gun prices and demand much to their chagrin. There's no doubt Obama was gun salesman of the year from 2009-2016. Well, maybe tied with Hillary for 2016.

Still didn't have a bearing on Remington's collapse. But, like I said, they won't be "out" for long. Just like Winchester wasn't "out" for long until FNH brought back the brand name though on a more limited basis.
 
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tumscalcium said:
I don’t break sweat for sheep. You can look on the last page where you showed your feelings were badly hurt by my words regarding your lord and savior, David Hogg. Lmao

You should try learning about racism first. Baby steps.
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:birgits_giggle:

You're are deluded if you think you're being clever. You sound like a child with your silly insults. I literally forgot more that you will ever know about about racism and what it means on my worst day than you will ever know about it on your best day
 
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114VOL said:
:birgits_giggle:

You're are deluded if you think you're being clever. You sound like a child with your silly insults. I literally forgot more that you will ever know about about racism and what it means on my worst day than you will ever know about it on your best day
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And now you’ve gone insane considering none of this makes any sense.

You should be worshipping my every typed word if you think I’m child-like.
 
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tumscalcium said:
And now you’ve gone insane considering none of this makes any sense.

You should be worshipping my every typed word if you think I’m child-like.
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Didn't fare well in your introductory reading classes?

Were you ever included an integrated school model in the 1960s? Have you ever sponsored an African-American for membership at an exclusive all-white country club? The first AA at any such club? Were you ever one of the only whites on a basketball team? Did you witness and experience the treatment of African Americans in the military during the 1960s?
 
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TennTom said:
You and I both know that the 2nd isn't going to be repealed. Are you even aware of the requirements? They're very stringent for a reason. It's absurd to even discuss it. Having common sense reform should be everyone's goal to make schools, parks, malls, airports, arenas, stadiums, etc. safer. What we are doing now is not working. The system is broken. Would you not agree?
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I definitely agree Gun Free zones aren't working.

"Absurd to discuss it". This seems like censorship of thought.
 
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114VOL said:
Didn't fare well in your introductory reading classes?

Were you ever included an integrated school model in the 1960s? Have you ever sponsored an African-American for membership at an exclusive all-white country club? The first AA at any such club? Were you ever one of the only whites on a basketball team? Did you witness and experience the treatment of African Americans in the military during the 1960s?
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Previous post made no sense.

Nope
Nope
Nope
Yes
Nope

I understand that black people can be racist, not just white people. I also get blamed on a daily basis for the piss poor decisons made by other people. You still have a lot to learn.
 
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tumscalcium said:
Previous post made no sense.

Nope
Nope
Nope
Yes
Nope

I understand that black people can be racist, not just white people. I also get blamed on a daily basis for the piss poor decisons made by other people. You still have a lot to learn.
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Sure they can. NO one has said anything to the contrary.

You, personally, are getting blamed?

Yes I do, but not nearly as much as you
 
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davethevol said:
STFU, communist.

Brother of Parkland shooting victim disagrees with David Hogg, says he was snubbed from March for our Lives

Pollack thanked his sister’s classmate for sharing his speech but refuted the idea that there was a logistical error.

“Thank you, I appreciate you pushing out my video but there was no miscommunication my speech didn’t fit In to the agenda,” he replied to Hogg’s tweet.
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So flustered. Poor thing. The Pollacks were so upset with David Hogg & Co., they spent the whole day Saturday together. Weird. And straight from the Washington Examiner. Just as I said. Hilarious.
 
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ajvol01 said:
I definitely agree Gun Free zones aren't working.

"Absurd to discuss it". This seems like censorship of thought.
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It's absurd to discuss the 2nd Amendment's abolishment because the requirements are so rigorous. Why aren't people allowed to carry into CPAC? Oh the irony....
 
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TennTom said:
So flustered. Poor thing. The Pollacks were so upset with David Hogg & Co., they spent the whole day Saturday together. Weird. And straight from the Washington Examiner. Just as I said. Hilarious.
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You are flat out lying and spreading info at this point. You should be ashamed of yourself, but instead you’ll continue pushing your communist agenda.
 
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davethevol said:
You are flat out lying and spreading info at this point. You should be ashamed of yourself, but instead you’ll continue pushing your communist agenda.
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Explain what I was lying about. Do you hate facts? There are medications to help you you with your anxiety.
 
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TennTom said:
Explain what I was lying about. Do you hate facts? There are medications to help you you with your anxiety.
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I’ve provided facts straight from Hunter himself. He flat out said yesterday that there wasn’t a miscommunication and that he wasn’t allowed to speak at the event.
 
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