Tenn Fans: How would you grade your position units Nationally? (from a Duck)

#26
#26
Also, it should be noted that 3/5 top tacklers and 3/5 TFL leaders from the 2011 defense (finished #28 nationally) are 2 years older and still on the team.

Tacklers: #2 AJ, #3 Randolph, #5 Maggitt
TFL: #2 Smith, #3 Couch, #4 Maggitt
 
#27
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DC Vol said:
Also, it should be noted that 3/5 top tacklers and 3/5 TFL leaders from the 2011 defense (finished #28 nationally) are 2 years older and still on the team.

Tacklers: #2 AJ, #3 Randolph, #5 Maggitt
TFL: #2 Smith, #3 Couch, #4 Maggitt
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Wait a minute.
So, you are saying that our defenders actually tackled last season?
I'm not sure that we are talking about the same team.
 
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Doyle Hargraves said:
Wait a minute.
So, you are saying that our defenders actually tackled last season?
I'm not sure that we are talking about the same team.
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2011, not 2012.

I'm pretending 2012 didn't exist.

And honestly, given the same core group of FR in 2011 were outplaying the JRs/SRs on the field with them and that ragtag group went #28 in a 4-3... I feel 2011 is more indicative of what we can possibly look for in 2013 given those players are all 2 years older, more mature, more physically geared for SEC play than 2012 would be with its wildly miscoached/miscalled 3-4.
 
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DC Vol said:
2011, not 2012.

I'm pretending 2012 didn't exist.

And honestly, given the same core group of FR in 2011 were outplaying the JRs/SRs on the field with them and that ragtag group went #28 in a 4-3... I feel 2011 is more indicative of what we can possibly look for in 2013 given those players are all 2 years older, more mature, more physically geared for SEC play than 2012 would be with its wildly miscoached/miscalled 3-4.
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My bad. I've been drinking and completely missed the year you posted.
 
#32
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UT coaching:
last year F - (zero coaching)
this year c+ (to early to evaluate)
 
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#34
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DucksflyinPAC said:
Vols, could you please grade out your positions for me, from last year to expected this year to compare/contrast if better/worse please. I confess, I do not know anyone on your 2013 team and how you stack up. I will do the same for my Ducks, being completely unbiased(taking my green/yellow glasses off). Please do the same with your team. And do not let the haters tell you, you do not have a chance against Oregon, as you do. As coaching/motivation/passion/gameplan/system all has just as much, if not more to play then player unit talent, I do agree. Please just be honest in your evaluations of talent groupings. And do not give a total "A" unless that unit (that whole group) is perfect. You will see that I am ranking my units under-ranked maybe at times.

IMO, how my Ducks Rank Nationally vs all the other 120+ teams position by position. Please use this same outline perhaps if you desire to share with me your team:

OREGON:

Offense:
QB: Last year B+
This year A-(though this is just our starter)
O-line: Last year B
This year B+
TE: Last year B
This year B
WR: Last year C-
This year B-
RB: Last year B+
This year B (though we are thin of depth)

Defense:
D-line: Last year B
This year B
LB'ers: Last year B+
This year D (in time they may prove me wrong though)
DB: Last year B(even though lead Nation in interceptions)
This year A-(even though been called best in Nation by almost all sports writers)

Kickers Last year D
Kickers This year D+

Coaching:

Coaching System Last year A
This year A-(ie exact same system)
Coaching play calling Last year A-
This year- Jury is still out, no one knows???

Keep in mind, I am ranking my units to everyone, Bama-LSU ect, and with every other team Nationally.
Some Ducks may think I am being too hard on some units, but that is just my humble honest opinion/Nationally.

Vols: Please rate your units for me. Thanks!
And VOl FREAK: Thank You Sir
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Thanks for the vote of confidence and good luck to the Ducks after they play our Volunteers. I hope the Ducks beat the crap outta so. cal and stanford! :hi:
 
#35
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Offence Last Year:

QB C; couldn't beat real competition

RB C; Weren't physical enough

O Line A+; Great blockers in both run and pass

WR B; One great (Patterson) the rest so so

Offence this year:

QB C; Not proven yet

RB B; Seemingly more physical

O Line A+; Cant get much better than last year

WR C; Talented but enexperienced

Defence last year:

D line B+; Pretty solid

LB B+; AJ Johnson

CB D-: Marcelous Teague couldn't cover me

Safety B; Couldn't make up for extremely poor CB play

Defense this year:

D line B+ still pretty solid

LB B+; Still got AJ

CB C; Somewhat unproven, but no Marcelous Teague

Safety B: Hopefully don't have to make up for extremely poor CB play


Special teams last year:

Kicker B; Not many long attempts made, but not many taken

Punter B; except real punter stunk so bad that the kicker had to punt also.

Special teams this year:

Kicker B; same kicker

Punter B; same punter/kicker situation as last year

Coaching last year:

HC F- Clueless

OC B; wouldn't have minded keeping him

DC F-; Wish he was BAMA's DC ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
 
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QB: B- (Too early to tell if Worley can step up and be THE guy just yet but shows promise.)
RB: B+ (basically a lesser version of Gurley/Marshall. Neal/Lane have the potential to be real good though.)
WR: C (not enough experience, but the talent is definitely there)
O-Line: A+ (best in the country. only concern MIGHT be if they are just as good at opening up the holes for the run game.)
TE: B- (potential but no one has really stepped up yet.)


D-Line: B+ (a solid pass rush remains to be seen.)
LB: A- (Maggit back makes a huge difference.)
CB: C+ (Coleman is solid but no depth whatsoever.)
Safety: B+ (Randolph, McNeil, and Moore are very good players. Depth is a bit of a concern though)

Special teams: I have no idea.
Punting: B+ (Palardy is actually a pretty decent punter.)
Kicking: C (too many other guys who make the ones they're supposed to make to put this any higher)

Obviously these will change as the season goes on, but this is just my opinion.
 
#38
#38
Serious question and no disrespect intended, but how does one open a Volnation account and immediately create a thread? I thought you had to have a few post under your belt before you could start a thread.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Serious question and no disrespect intended, but how does one open a Volnation account and immediately create a thread? I thought you had to have a few post under your belt before you could start a thread.
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the last line probably has a lot to do with it


"And VOl FREAK: Thank You Sir"

good post ducksflyin,thanks for the information :hi:

like others have said,there is no telling how the Vols will play against the Ducks,i can guarantee you,that they will be be ready to play and will play hard,I'm hoping the game will be a thriller right down to the last play,with our kicker hitting a long field goal for the win :yes:
 
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#41
#41
I would say we average out to a C+, B team overall. But if injuries start piling up we're in deep trouble. We're still unproven, but have the potential to hang with anyone on any given Saturday. Being realistic,
We're not expecting much this year. It's a shame because so many of us were looking forward to this rematch with a veteran team and now we're in worse shape than we were then. Well Maybe the gap balances out due to Dooley being gone.

Besides this game, I'm looking for Oregon to win a NC. Would love, love, love to see y'all put a hurting on Bama
 
#45
#45
Last year:
QB: B
RB: B-
WR: A
OL: B+
TE: B
DL: C
LB: C+
DB: F
ST: C (kicking was a D- but Patterson was truly special in the return game)
Coaching: N/A (There were no signs of any coaching)

This Year (My Projections!!!)
QB: C+
RB: B
OL: A+
WR: C
TE: C
DL: B-
LB: B+
DB: C (Love our young safeties and expect freshman to play ok)
ST: C (I think palardy will be much better but we don't have that break a long one potential like last year)
Coaching: Can't even project. Looks good but nobody truly knows.

Unlike last season I don't think we are terrible in any phase, but we also arnt truly special anywhere but the OL. We will hope the elite teams we play beat themselves a little. Without some help we are outmatched in 5 games this season.
 
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#49
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Freak said:
Explain. :dunno:
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I was joking that you gave him a waiver cause Oregon was gonna beat us bad. The other poster was saying the waiver could be because you expected us handle them easily. I was trying to get a prediction out of you.
 
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