Tennessee Buzz: Candidates To Watch - Kendall Rogers

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armchair said:
Get somebody with SEC experience who has a record of finding and developing good pitchers. Improving the program starts with getting good pitchers.
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I've always assumed someone would eventually come for Florida's assistants
 
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99gator said:
I've always assumed someone would eventually come for Florida's assistants
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I think both are excellent talent evaluators and good instructors. I don't think either are ideal SEC head coach material. Some people are great assistants.
 
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BruinVol said:
His name would mean next to nothing on the recruiting trail.
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IDK, kids watch the SEC network. I like Burke, not saying there are not better alternatives which might do a better job, I'll leave that up to Currie to decide.

I do know of Burke was hired and did a good/great job, he's more than likely here for a long time.

Honestly, most of us here can manage a ballgame, we need superior talent evaluation and player development out of the next guy.
 
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When Burke campaigned heavily for the job 6 years ago, the rumors were than he would have former teammates and such as assistants.

So the HC and the assistants would have no college coaching experience.

That would have been a disaster.

As per prior posts about "Power 5"

We need to kill that term for college baseball completely.

The defending national champion is Coastal Carolina for Pete's sake.

The Big10 couldn't care less about college baseball and half the members of the Big12, ACC and Pac10 don't including Kansas State where our AD came from.

This is the equivalent of a hockey school's fans looking for a Power5 hockey coach.

Too many fans who know nothing about college baseball just assume Coastal Carolina, Pepperdine, USD, Long Beach, Fullerton, Rice, ECU, Wichita, etc are lesser programs because they're not top tier football.

CDS was a splash hire because he came from a top tier baseball program that he taken to conference titles and Omaha. In baseball terms, moving from Fullerton to Tennessee was a step down.
 
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Ash Lawson would be a disaster. Chris Burke would have tremendous name recognition around the State's of Tennessee and Kentucky! Whoever said that he would not is simply dead wrong.

For those of us ex-pro baseball players on here, I think we all agree that Chris Burke, surrounded by some experienced college recruiters would be a great hire. Past that, go with Randy Mazey at West Virginia. He is doing a heck of job up there and has Tennessee connections.

If I'm AD, I hire Chris, keep Simcox, and go find a first rate pitching coach and rock-n-roll.
 
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Sam I Am said:
Ash Lawson would be a disaster. Chris Burke would have tremendous name recognition around the State's of Tennessee and Kentucky! Whoever said that he would not is simply dead wrong.

For those of us ex-pro baseball players on here, I think we all agree that Chris Burke, surrounded by some experienced college recruiters would be a great hire. Past that, go with Randy Mazey at West Virginia. He is doing a heck of job up there and has Tennessee connections.

If I'm AD, I hire Chris, keep Simcox, and go find a first rate pitching coach and rock-n-roll.
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With you on this.

Another name to watch is Matt Riser from SE Louisiana. Do not be shocked if he gets an interview. http://www.lionsports.net/coaches.aspx?rc=614&path=baseball
 
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Sam I Am said:
Ash Lawson would be a disaster. Chris Burke would have tremendous name recognition around the State's of Tennessee and Kentucky! Whoever said that he would not is simply dead wrong.

For those of us ex-pro baseball players on here, I think we all agree that Chris Burke, surrounded by some experienced college recruiters would be a great hire. Past that, go with Randy Mazey at West Virginia. He is doing a heck of job up there and has Tennessee connections.

If I'm AD, I hire Chris, keep Simcox, and go find a first rate pitching coach and rock-n-roll.
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I'm going to bet that Simcox and the others are all updating resumes and we'll see an entire new coaching staff.
 
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fryeguy93 said:
Can a head coach still be a "yes man" ?
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I'm being honest. I don't know what you are getting at and I'm not knocking the guy, but he's been a MLB scout/cross checker for a long time and what I don't understand is why he has what seems to be a pretty good group of supporters, his resume has little college experience.

To simplify my question...Why hasn't another major conference school hired him for a HC position?
 
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fryeguy93 said:
When Burke campaigned heavily for the job 6 years ago, the rumors were than he would have former teammates and such as assistants.

So the HC and the assistants would have no college coaching experience.

That would have been a disaster.

As per prior posts about "Power 5"

We need to kill that term for college baseball completely.

The defending national champion is Coastal Carolina for Pete's sake.

The Big10 couldn't care less about college baseball and half the members of the Big12, ACC and Pac10 don't including Kansas State where our AD came from.

This is the equivalent of a hockey school's fans looking for a Power5 hockey coach.

Too many fans who know nothing about college baseball just assume Coastal Carolina, Pepperdine, USD, Long Beach, Fullerton, Rice, ECU, Wichita, etc are lesser programs because they're not top tier football.

CDS was a splash hire because he came from a top tier baseball program that he taken to conference titles and Omaha. In baseball terms, moving from Fullerton to Tennessee was a step down.
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I think we should stay away from coaches at programs that do not have to compete for resources with football.
 
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fryeguy93 said:
When Burke campaigned heavily for the job 6 years ago, the rumors were than he would have former teammates and such as assistants.

So the HC and the assistants would have no college coaching experience.

That would have been a disaster.

As per prior posts about "Power 5"

We need to kill that term for college baseball completely.

The defending national champion is Coastal Carolina for Pete's sake.

The Big10 couldn't care less about college baseball and half the members of the Big12, ACC and Pac10 don't including Kansas State where our AD came from.

This is the equivalent of a hockey school's fans looking for a Power5 hockey coach.

Too many fans who know nothing about college baseball just assume Coastal Carolina, Pepperdine, USD, Long Beach, Fullerton, Rice, ECU, Wichita, etc are lesser programs because they're not top tier football.

CDS was a splash hire because he came from a top tier baseball program that he taken to conference titles and Omaha. In baseball terms, moving from Fullerton to Tennessee was a step down.
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Baseball is a bit different, but the term "Power 5" refers to where the money is. UT isn't going to find a coach at another successful Power 5 position unless they want to pony up the money.

Although teams like Coastal Carolina, East Carolina, and Rice have been successful, their coaches probably still don't make the money that successful Power 5 coaches do. As vol66 referenced, these programs are usually the dominant sports team for their school. It's different when you have to adjust to a grind in the SEC and have to deal with two other sports that are more of a priority.

The question still remains: do you take an assistant who has been at a high level or a head coach who has had success in a smaller conference?
 
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VolGee4 said:
Baseball is a bit different, but the term "Power 5" refers to where the money is. UT isn't going to find a coach at another successful Power 5 position unless they want to pony up the money.

Although teams like Coastal Carolina, East Carolina, and Rice have been successful, their coaches probably still don't make the money that successful Power 5 coaches do. As vol66 referenced, these programs are usually the dominant sports team for their school. It's different when you have to adjust to a grind in the SEC and have to deal with two other sports that are more of a priority.

The question still remains: do you take an assistant who has been at a high level or a head coach who has had success in a smaller conference?
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You do both. That's why Bohannon isn't AS attractive to me as a Calvi, Lovelady or Godwin. They've been assistants at big time schools that are used to winning, worked with great mentors and struck out on their own as HC and been successful. Godwin's resume as an assistant is impeccable. Worked for Bianco, Corbin and Maineri (2x).
 
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Sam I Am said:
Ash Lawson would be a disaster. Chris Burke would have tremendous name recognition around the State's of Tennessee and Kentucky! Whoever said that he would not is simply dead wrong.

For those of us ex-pro baseball players on here, I think we all agree that Chris Burke, surrounded by some experienced college recruiters would be a great hire. Past that, go with Randy Mazey at West Virginia. He is doing a heck of job up there and has Tennessee connections.

If I'm AD, I hire Chris, keep Simcox, and go find a first rate pitching coach and rock-n-roll.
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Ask 100 hs kids who chris Burke is and I bet less than 25 know in tenn. And Kentucky. I don't need precessional baseball on my resume to know that. In the same aspect 90+ know who tim Corbin is. The Burke name is worthless with hs kids.
 
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I think a lot of Burke. I think he's a great analyst, and probably has it in him to be a good coach. But there is no way to know until he is a coach.

Some say Burke wants the job and wanted it last time. If he really wanted the job, he probably should have taken an assistant's job six years ago and put himself in a position to get it this time.

To me, Burke has too much risk. I know there's no such thing as a "sure thing" and Serrano basically proved that, but this job is a tough, tough job, and if you pick someone with a ton of risk and it doesn't work out, you're staring nearly two decades of bad baseball right in the face and might do enough damage that no one will want it the next time it's open.
 
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Anyone interested at a possibility for the next head coach to be Mike Bell, Kevin McMullan, Tony Vitello, Kevin Schnall or Rusty McKee???
 
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OldTimer said:
No one of qualified credentials may want it now either......
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A motivated young coach looking to make a splash in the SEC may see a real opportunity. This year’s freshman class has shown promise and next years in coming group have several talented players. Throw in a hand full of proven JUCO guys and a qualified pitching and hitting coach and you may catch fire like Kentucky.
 
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Another name that is intriguing is Craig Bell. What is everybody's thoughts on him??
 
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