Tennessee Football boldly supporting BLM

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hog88 said:
I want to go back to the way Senators were elected prior top the 17th amendment.
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Not sure it would make much difference. Just one of those things where people feel their being given a little power to choose.
 
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k-town_king said:
KR was chased after killing a guy. He was not unprovoked.
Story was right. He wasn't from the area, could not legally carry a weapon to protect the random unaffiliated city he came to start crap in. He is a bytch who sucker punches girls and will go to jail the rest of his life. No wonder you all love him.

Only right wing propaganda sites have said the protesters threw stuff first to justify their hate caravan randomly macing and paintballing people.

They are lucky more didn't get shot. Raising up guns from vehicles is a great way to get shot.

The Trump guy sprayed him with mace then got shot. Actual self defense.
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You didn't watch all the videos, did you? It's pretty clear of what happened and you're very much wrong on this issue.

It's sad that I always see you crying racism, yet, by far, you're the most racist person on this board.
 
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bUTchLookin4Dimez said:
You didn't watch all the videos, did you? It's pretty clear of what happened and you're very much wrong on this issue.

It's sad that I always see you crying racism, yet, by far, you're the most racist person on this board.
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What's worse is he thinks nothing is wrong with it. This belief is promoted by the media that you can openly diss white people if you are a minority. That might be true, but it doesn't make it right. It is hard to tell if it's an ideological difference or a racial disdain. It comes back to personal morality and if you believe we are all God's children.

I don't think it's right to think you have the moral authority over people because more of the other race are in power positions. It's a dangerous idea that we should be evolving beyond and all citizens are afforded an opportunity to improve themselves if you are following the laws that apply to everyone, unless you apparently work in congress. And that too should bother all of us.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
BLM isn't a political movement. Its about police brutality against black people.
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I'm not saying it doesn't happen but empirical evidence doesn't support it happens much. Most of the time if you are a good citizen then you will not have run-in's with law enforcement. Period.

A lot of this is about anarchy and capitalism. Some just want to commit crime. There are multiple agendas at play.
 
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C-south said:
Not sure it would make much difference. Just one of those things where people feel their being given a little power to choose.
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The 17th amendment can be tied directly to how the shape we are in as a country.
 
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hog88 said:
The 17th amendment can be tied directly to how the shape we are in as a country.
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Maybe but I’m not sure handing more power to the government instead of the people would be all that better.
 
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C-south said:
Maybe but I’m not sure handing more power to the government instead of the people would be all that better.
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State House reps are much easier to influence and replace than US Senators so I think scrapping the 17th would put more power back in the peoples hands.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
BLM isn't a political movement. Its about police brutality against black people.
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Can you point us towards the organization that is about black people murdering black people? Since an average month in Chicago sees more black people murdered by other black people than any given year in the U.S. sees black people murdered by cops, I would think that there would be some organization out there that would be focused on all of those black lives.

I'll hang up and listen...
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
Did the math over the past few days. When I add it all up: support, merchandise, travel, tickets, food, lodging, alcohol (of course) and what-have-you...I'm looking at a 5-7k increase in my disposable income without UT Football.

Your move, Phil.
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I feel you GW

If they don’t win and soon it will get ugly.

As far as I know, this is the longest drought in the history of the program.

Took Johnny 9 years to win the SEC Championship.

It took Phil 5 years to win the SEC Championship and 6 years to win the BCS National Championship.

2001 SECCG vs Saban & LSU was Fulmer’s biggest loss
2004 SECCG vs Auburn was a bright spot in a year with less than normal expectations
2007 SECCG vs Miles & LSU was the last time Tennessee was relevant at a national level

13 years and 3 buyouts later and it’s not been a lot of fun

The Currie/Schia-NO/Gundy/Leach coaching search was entertaining.

It’s just been a train wreck since 2008.

Not sure why it took me until 2016 to stop caring so much. I still watch or listen, but it’s more an afterthought than a priority.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
BLM isn't a political movement. Its about police brutality against black people.
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A good exercise would be for you to review each event over the last ten years or so, case by case, and report back your findings on how all those turned out. Were officers charged? Were they found guilty or not guilty? What evidence led to a guilty or not guilty verdict? Did special interest groups/persons pressure Prosecutors to pursue a higher charge that they couldn't get? What statements and testimony did ACTUAL witnesses give regarding each case?

I will tell you there is no doubt that some of those officers were in the wrong. I will tell you the narrative in many of these cases is completely false. There are also more unarmed white men killed by police every year, but as a percentage, less than that of unarmed black men - 17% to 13%, so a difference of 4%. But we also need to know what the circumstances were in each case. Were the suspects belligerent and uncooperative? Did they get physical and try to assault the officers? An unarmed man does not mean he is not a dangerous man that could inflict serious harm and/or death to an individual. So 4%, while a disparity, is not a huge disparity. Yet, I haven't seen any protests or riots in the name of the unarmed white men whose percentages come pretty close to the numbers of black men and whose actual deaths are higher than that of unarmed black men. BLM is more about instant justice, shaping a narrative for consumption and trying officers in the court of public opinion with their protests and riots. BLM certainly is a political movement.

Edit: Stats were from 2013 to 2019 time frame
 
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Vol737 said:
A good exercise would be for you to review each event over the last ten years or so, case by case, and report back your findings on how all those turned out. Were officers charged? Were they found guilty or not guilty? What evidence led to a guilty or not guilty verdict? Did special interest groups/persons pressure Prosecutors to pursue a higher charge that they couldn't get? What statements and testimony did ACTUAL witnesses give regarding each case?

I will tell you there is no doubt that some of those officers were in the wrong. I will tell you the narrative in many of these cases is completely false. There are also more unarmed white men killed by police every year, but as a percentage, less than that of unarmed black men - 17% to 13%, so a difference of 4%. But we also need to know what the circumstances were in each case. Were the suspects belligerent and uncooperative? Did they get physical and try to assault the officers? An unarmed man does not mean he is not a dangerous man that could inflict serious harm and/or death to an individual. So 4%, while a disparity, is not a huge disparity. Yet, I haven't seen any protests or riots in the name of the unarmed white men whose percentages come pretty close to the numbers of black men and whose actual deaths are higher than that of unarmed black men. BLM is more about instant justice, shaping a narrative for consumption and trying officers in the court of public opinion with their protests and riots. BLM certainly is a political movement.

Edit: Stats were from 2013 to 2019 time frame
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There's all kinds of videos of beligerant white men attacking police and not having lethal force used on them . Look at all the white mass murderers who were heavily armed and taken alive. The list goes on and on. Do you honestly think Breonna Taylor would be dead if she were white? I dont. When police see a black person they shoot 1st ask questions later. They give white people the benefit of the doubt.

And for the record YES I am white, born raised and currently residing in East TN.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
There's all kinds of videos of beligerant white men attacking police and not having lethal force used on them . Look at all the white mass murderers who were heavily armed and taken alive. The list goes on and on. Do you honestly think Breonna Taylor would be dead if she were white? I dont. When police see a black person they shoot 1st ask questions later. They give white people the benefit of the doubt.

And for the record YES I am white, born raised and currently residing in East TN.
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She looks really scary at night. Maybe someone should've rioted and looted.

For Don Damond, George Floyd's death brings back pain of Justine Ruszczyk's fatal shooting by Minneapolis police
 
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ajvol01 said:
Any idea why the money from www.blacklivesmatter.com goes to ActBlue?

Black Lives Matter: Urgent Donation Needed

The URL doesn’t lie

secure.actblue.com/donate/ms_blm_homepage_2019

Any idea what ActBlue does with their money?

If you guessed donate to Democrat campaigns you’d be correct.
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Dems have never been picky about where their money comes from - either before or after an election. Since it keeps coming in, they are obviously doing what it takes to keep the donors happy
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
There's all kinds of videos of beligerant white men attacking police and not having lethal force used on them . Look at all the white mass murderers who were heavily armed and taken alive. The list goes on and on. Do you honestly think Breonna Taylor would be dead if she were white? I dont. When police see a black person they shoot 1st ask questions later. They give white people the benefit of the doubt.

And for the record YES I am white, born raised and currently residing in East TN.
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Responding to facts with opinions. Now where have I seen that before?
 
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k-town_king said:
Wtf are you talking about?The WH literally had a White Supremacist, Steve O'Bannon, as part of its team. White nationalist ties have been exposed in all levels of the Trump administration.


Plenty of big right wing donors funneling money to the WS. No proof of this anti-semetic Soros boogeyman conspiracy.


Also BLM isn't a hate group like the Klan. And the Klan is not an anathema they are just part of several useful idiot groups the Rs use when they "need" them.
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I’d like to hear your response to this. You were just challenging someone and that you’d mop the floor with them. I’m your Huckleberry.

I’d like to see any evidence of the Klan having any seat or voice in the GOP.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
There's all kinds of videos of beligerant white men attacking police and not having lethal force used on them . Look at all the white mass murderers who were heavily armed and taken alive. The list goes on and on. Do you honestly think Breonna Taylor would be dead if she were white? I dont. When police see a black person they shoot 1st ask questions later. They give white people the benefit of the doubt.

And for the record YES I am white, born raised and currently residing in East TN.
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Bs. There are also videos of white men getting shot by police all the time and thousands of videos of black men being arrested with no injuries at all. Not every suspect, situation and officer are the same.

Mass murderers sometimes get taken alive not because they are white but because they surrender when asked to do so. Not fighting and running and trying to kill police officers. Taylor had nothing to do with race. And the numbers state otherwise, officers are more likely to use force against a non compliant or combative suspect regardless of race
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
Can you point us towards the organization that is about black people murdering black people? Since an average month in Chicago sees more black people murdered by other black people than any given year in the U.S. sees black people murdered by cops, I would think that there would be some organization out there that would be focused on all of those black lives.

I'll hang up and listen...
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If you need someone to hold your hand and point out the thousands of organizations that have fought inner city violence since the 80s then you are just exposing how ignorant you are. They have been around for years and work. Crime is way down from the 80s and 90s.


lmao. Anyone crying about the lack of groups addressing violence is an idiot because there are literally thousands of them and they have been in the news many times over the last 40 years. lol
 
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