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Only 12 teams in WNBA. Silly IMO to think we have 7 of 24 top WNBA draft prospects. Sone of these players not ready IMO>
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Mabrey also had the confidence of a queen from game of thrones , big difference . Mabrey also developed her game to play PG . There's no comparison other than being dead eye 3 point shooters between her and tess . Being honest , overall maybe if you used Michaela Mabrey or Dara as a better comparison to Tess and her maximized potential it would make more sense. No knock against our dead eye specialist , but Mabrey is a Starting PG in the WNBA. Tess and the WNBA have a lot of work and possible expansion before that becomes her reality . I live in the real world of professional sports and our team has a lot of future WNBA players unlike the ratio we've had since the Francis days. If all players were to be drafted right now before the season even started i would bet a lot of money on this being the following results.

Sure shots of being drafted 1st Rd/ Lottery/ 2nd rd :
Horston
Jackson
Key
Pissott
Suraez
Puckett
Hollingshead

Possible late 3rd round picks
Walker
Franklin
Powell


Currently still working towards draft consideration
Darby
Miles
Rennie
Wynn
Striplin
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Are you saying that when they complete eligibility that the top 7 you list will be drafted then or are you saying if draft was held now they would be drafted then? At least 4 of the top 7 are not draft ready now IMO. The second 3 on your list may not be future WNBA players but IMO will be more important to how far this team goes this year than some of the players on your list. Last I checked we are competing in the NCAA, not in the WNBA. So IMO the real world is the NCAA, and how ourplayers compete in college, not how they may someday compete in the WNBA.
 
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Fatoldman said:
Are you saying that when they complete eligibility that the top 7 you list will be drafted then or are you saying if draft was held now they would be drafted then? At least 4 of the top 7 are not draft ready now IMO. The second 3 on your list may not be future WNBA players but IMO will be more important to how far this team goes this year than some of the players on your list. Last I checked we are competing in the NCAA, not in the WNBA. So IMO the real world is the NCAA, and how ourplayers compete in college, not how they may someday compete in the WNBA.
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I think that’s a list for if they were to have completed eligibility those are locks to be drafted which I agree. I also think we have Walker/Powell/Franklin who could And should get 2nd or 3rd round consideration.

Developmentally in 2 more years I also think Wynn/Miles will at least be 2nd round with Darby/Karo getting some late 2nd/3rd looks at the very least because of success and their impact and development at that point.

I agree with your point made about us focusing on the goal for this year and we’re all getting ahead of ourselves but this is good conversation. We have a team full of potential future W players and that’s nothing to sneeze at. Kellie has the faith of LadyVolNation and it shows in our excitement for where our players are and where we can go as a team.
 
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Fatoldman said:
Are you saying that when they complete eligibility that the top 7 you list will be drafted then or are you saying if draft was held now they would be drafted then? At least 4 of the top 7 are not draft ready now IMO. The second 3 on your list may not be future WNBA players but IMO will be more important to how far this team goes this year than some of the players on your list. Last I checked we are competing in the NCAA, not in the WNBA. So IMO the real world is the NCAA, and how ourplayers compete in college, not how they may someday compete in the WNBA.
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If the draft were now for all of the roster this would be the predicted draft position . Sorry i should have been a little more transparent.
 
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Fatoldman said:
Are you saying that when they complete eligibility that the top 7 you list will be drafted then or are you saying if draft was held now they would be drafted then? At least 4 of the top 7 are not draft ready now IMO. The second 3 on your list may not be future WNBA players but IMO will be more important to how far this team goes this year than some of the players on your list. Last I checked we are competing in the NCAA, not in the WNBA. So IMO the real world is the NCAA, and how ourplayers compete in college, not how they may someday compete in the WNBA.
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The purpose for majority if not 95% of NCAA women's basketball athletes are to become professionals. If not then why even attempt at getting better at something you have no future in ? May as well just be a scholar right ?
 
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xtpsrh08123 said:
The purpose for majority if not 95% of NCAA women's basketball athletes are to become professionals. If not then why even attempt at getting better at something you have no future in ? May as well just be a scholar right ?
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I don't agree with your premise about most or 95% of players wanting to play professionally. The joy and importance of competing collegiately to these athletes is real. Most are just wanting to help their team win and enjoy competing. I agree that a team with many future WNBA players bodes well for how a team might do. But the fact remains most starters on national championship teams do not ever play in the or WNBA. WNBA potential does not always mean NCAA success and vice versa. With only 12 WNBA teams I expect far fewer than 7 of this year's team will ever play in the WNBA. Looking forward to this year and hopefully team chemistry will be great, even if most don't get the minutes they would
 
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xtpsrh08123 said:
Mabrey also had the confidence of a queen from game of thrones , big difference . Mabrey also developed her game to play PG . There's no comparison other than being dead eye 3 point shooters between her and tess . Being honest , overall maybe if you used Michaela Mabrey or Dara as a better comparison to Tess and her maximized potential it would make more sense. No knock against our dead eye specialist , but Mabrey is a Starting PG in the WNBA. Tess and the WNBA have a lot of work and possible expansion before that becomes her reality . I live in the real world of professional sports and our team has a lot of future WNBA players unlike the ratio we've had since the Francis days. If all players were to be drafted right now before the season even started i would bet a lot of money on this being the following results.

Sure shots of being drafted 1st Rd/ Lottery/ 2nd rd :
Horston
Jackson
Key
Pissott
Suraez
Puckett
Hollingshead

Possible late 3rd round picks
Walker
Franklin
Powell


Currently still working towards draft consideration
Darby
Miles
Rennie
Wynn
Striplin
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Marina Mabrey has a toughness factor about her that helps her to stand out and makes her stand out. That's a given. Every ball is hers and every shot she shoots is going to go in; in her mind. My comment regarding Tess was more about comparing shooting ability and shooting stroke. What will help Tess this season and the other long ranges shooters on this team is that with Tamari inside and Jordan and Rickea on the wings, there is no one you can leave alone and if someone is going to sag off to try to stop Rickea or Jordan from penetrating the lane, that person is probably going to be the person guarding either Tess or our point guard and Jasmine Powell is a proficient shooter as well and I am thinking Jordan Walker will also come back improved this year too. She said she has been working with Alexis Hornbuckle. I would hate to be an opposing coach trying to put together a deffensive game plan against them. Kind of pick you poison and hope for the best. This team on paper can beat anyone in the country. Can't wait to see if they can put it all together.
 
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Fatoldman said:
I don't agree with your premise about most or 95% of players wanting to play professionally. The joy and importance of competing collegiately to these athletes is real. Most are just wanting to help their team win and enjoy competing. I agree that a team with many future WNBA players bodes well for how a team might do. But the fact remains most starters on national championship teams do not ever play in the or WNBA. WNBA potential does not always mean NCAA success and vice versa. With only 12 WNBA teams I expect far fewer than 7 of this year's team will ever play in the WNBA. Looking forward to this year and hopefully team chemistry will be great, even if most don't get the minutes they would
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Agreed! And because this is an especially strong draft class, I'd expect we get two in the first round, one in the second (or vice-versa), and that's between Tamari, Rickea, and Jordan. Powell and Franklin also have draft potential, but whether they get looks depends on our performance during the season, whereas our big three will be drafted regardless of how the team does. Franklin in particular I think could have a long, successful WNBA career if she can stay healthy. She's a player a coach like Thibault would make good use of.
 
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Fatoldman said:
I don't agree with your premise about most or 95% of players wanting to play professionally. The joy and importance of competing collegiately to these athletes is real. Most are just wanting to help their team win and enjoy competing. I agree that a team with many future WNBA players bodes well for how a team might do. But the fact remains most starters on national championship teams do not ever play in the or WNBA. WNBA potential does not always mean NCAA success and vice versa. With only 12 WNBA teams I expect far fewer than 7 of this year's team will ever play in the WNBA. Looking forward to this year and hopefully team chemistry will be great, even if most don't get the minutes they would
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I think we just have different outlooks and that is totally fair . We will simply agree to disagree , i see how some players would just play to get a free scholarship but most of those types don't develop their game or care enough to get better to even consider being a pro .
 
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xtpsrh08123 said:
I think we just have different outlooks and that is totally fair . We will simply agree to disagree , i see how some players would just play to get a free scholarship but most of those types don't develop their game or care enough to get better to even consider being a pro .
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Not sure we totally disagree. There are 350 or so D1 teams. Many players on these teams improve but simply are not talented enough, tall enough, athletic enough to ever turn pro no matter how hard they work or care. How many of the Belmont players will ever play in the WNBA but they compete collegiately because it is worthwhile to them to improve even if they never make the WNBA. D1 at large is one thing but on a top 10 team it may be different in terms of player expectations. I guess I am saying that in the 5000 D1 players very few aspire to be pros let alone WNBA players Their non-pro aspirations are quite ok and so they choose to play collegiately simply because they love the game, for the scholarship, etc. It does not mean these players don't care or are not putting in the effort to get better just because they have no pro aspirations. Not even mentioning D2, D3, NAIA, etc. Sorry but I love the college game and hate to see it viewed based upon post collegiate play. The college game is worthy in and of itself.
 
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Fatoldman said:
Not sure we totally disagree. There are 350 or so D1 teams. Many players on these teams improve but simply are not talented enough to ever turn pro. On a team like ours most every player has pro potential at least overseas. So D1 at large is one thing but on a top 10 team it may be different in terms of player expectations. I.e I guess I am saying that in the 5000 D1 players very few aspire to be pros let alone WNBA players Their non-pro aspirations are quite ok. Just do the best you can for your collegiate team. It does not mean these players don't care or are not putting in the effort to get better just because they have no pro asoirations.
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If those other 5000 D1 player's did not care about being a professional one day *NOT JUST THE WNBA* then why accept a basketball scholarship ? I see what your saying in regards to depending on the school it's most likely an afterthought , but true ballers want to get better and go as far as they can in the field of occupation they like the most. Some know it's not realistic and decide to play as long as they can via 4 year degree , some also have their future mapped out as far as becoming a doctor etc. Other than Alison Bales from Duke im not sure any of them ever anticipated stepping foot on a WNBA team in a regular season game and not by choice but by talent average mainly. Id like to agree to disagree on this one because it's not going to change my focus on true baller's wanting to get better and always making a decision on a basketball scholarship with pro aspirations in mind for their future.
 
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xtpsrh08123 said:
If those other 5000 D1 player's did not care about being a professional one day *NOT JUST THE WNBA* then why accept a basketball scholarship ? I see what your saying in regards to depending on the school it's most likely an afterthought , but true ballers want to get better and go as far as they can in the field of occupation they like the most. Some know it's not realistic and decide to play as long as they can via 4 year degree , some also have their future mapped out as far as becoming a doctor etc. Other than Alison Bales from Duke im not sure any of them ever anticipated stepping foot on a WNBA team in a regular season game and not by choice but by talent average mainly. Id like to agree to disagree on this one because it's not going to change my focus on true baller's wanting to get better and always making a decision on a basketball scholarship with pro aspirations in mind for their future.
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elizabeth Williams has stated throughout her career her desire to be a doctor though she’s always had WNBA talent. IMANI McGee Stanford has been pursing her law degree and same could be said for her but I’m not sure when lane became her passion as I never followed her enough tbh. There are some who love basketball but love something more than that, and that’s ok even if they have the skill and talent to be star level which I believe Williams does but I don’t trust her passion for the game vs it being a means to an end.
 
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xtpsrh08123 said:
If those other 5000 D1 player's did not care about being a professional one day *NOT JUST THE WNBA* then why accept a basketball scholarship ?
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Probably for the same reason I tried to play d2 baseball until I physically couldn't. I knew the pros wasn't in the cards, but it's freaking fun to play at the highest level you can. It's the competition.
 
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