Tennessee Media Coverage v. Memphis

#27
#27
top5vols said:
CSS and CBSS are not national. I will give you ESPN/ESPN2, which are 8 games. Cal teams were not on national TV much because of their poor schedule. Who wanted to watch Memphis vs. Rice, SMU, Tulane, USM, or TSU.
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Top 10 teams will get on TV regardless of opponents/conference.
 
#29
#29
top5vols said:
UT has 17 national TV games this season compared to Tiger High 3. The two seasons prior were about the same. Even when your tigers were #1 for most of the season during Cal's time you could not find Tiger High on TV.
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Except they generally played 2 additional games in late March that were "nationally televised".

In addition, what does it say about a mighty SEC team when a "mid-major" has as many, if not more, TV appearances?
 
#30
#30
CALISKING said:
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Except they generally played 2 additional games in late March that were "nationally televised".

In addition, what does it say about a mighty SEC team when a "mid-major" has as many, if not more, TV appearances?
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Yeah, I forgot the tigers do play in the NIT deep into March.
 
#32
#32
CALISKING said:
Even fewer people nationally care about UT BB. When you say UT, the majority of sports fans and UT fans think in the following order:

1. Football program that used to be great.
2. Women's basketball
3. Men's basketball.

"Tiger High" has been relevant in Men's basketball since the 1970s. In every decade, the Tigers have had at least 2 Sweet Sixteen appearances, and if not for Nick Van Exel, would have a Final Four in every decade since the 70s.

Tiger High has placed a list of players too numerous to list in the NBA in the last 20 years. UT has Dale Ellis, Allan Houston, and CJ Watson.

Any college basketball expert knows and will tell you which school has a more storied tradition. Conference affiliation, city statistics, or player background makes no difference in your argument of basketball program relevance.
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I read your first sentence and wanted to relate that more people nationally cared about Britney Spears than Guided by Voices but that sure as hell didn't mean she was better...
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#38
#38
hatvol96 said:
Depends on my mood.
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Way to put yourself out there. Stick to your dichotomy of sabotaging and championing. It's suits the schizophrenic lilt of your fandom. Can't say I'm not a fan of it. At least you're not boring.
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#39
#39
PoochPunt3rdDown said:
Way to put yourself out there. Stick to your dichotomy of sabotaging and championing. It's suits the schizophrenic lilt of your fandom. Can't say I'm not a fan of it. At least you're not boring.
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What are you talking about? At any given moment, I might be listening to any of hundreds of artists. Might be Tom Waits, might be Donna Summer. Might be NWA, might be Sammy Davis. Might be Michael Buble, might be Waylon Jennings. Might be the Four Tops, might be The Fray. Might be Fall Out Boy, might be The Four Freshmen. Feel better now?
 
#40
#40
hatvol96 said:
What are you talking about? At any given moment, I might be listening to any of hundreds of artists. Might be Tom Waits, might be Donna Summer. Might be NWA, might be Sammy Davis. Might be Michael Buble, might be Waylon Jennings. Might be the Four Tops, might be The Fray. Might be Fall Out Boy, might be The Four Freshmen. Feel better now?
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Tom Waits is a start. "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy." Chill hat. You should really give Guided a chance.
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#43
#43
top5vols said:
UT has 17 national TV games this season compared to Tiger High 3. The two seasons prior were about the same. Even when your tigers were #1 for most of the season during Cal's time you could not find Tiger High on TV.[/QUOTE]

We can debate what is considered "national TV" all day long. Fine, you win, the Vols are on national TV more than the Tigers. First, most of that "national TV" is tied to an SEC TV contract. Second, with all of that "national" exposure, how come "Tiger High" continues to out recruit UT year in and out?

The fact is that the flagship University, with all of its TV contracts, BCS affiliation, and $$ continues to run a distant second in recruiting and NCAA success to, by your own words, a High School. Says alot about your program.
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#44
#44
top5vols said:
UT has 17 national TV games this season compared to Tiger High 3. The two seasons prior were about the same. Even when your tigers were #1 for most of the season during Cal's time you could not find Tiger High on TV.
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CALISKING said:
We can debate what is considered "national TV" all day long. Fine, you win, the Vols are on national TV more than the Tigers. First, most of that "national TV" is tied to an SEC TV contract. Second, with all of that "national" exposure, how come "Tiger High" continues to out recruit UT year in and out?

The fact is that the flagship University, with all of its TV contracts, BCS affiliation, and $$ continues to run a distant second in recruiting and NCAA success in basketball to, by your own words, a High School. Says alot about your program.
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Tweaked your post CIK. And I am not sure it is distant.
 
#45
#45
CALISKING said:
top5vols said:
UT has 17 national TV games this season compared to Tiger High 3. The two seasons prior were about the same. Even when your tigers were #1 for most of the season during Cal's time you could not find Tiger High on TV.[/QUOTE]

We can debate what is considered "national TV" all day long. Fine, you win, the Vols are on national TV more than the Tigers. First, most of that "national TV" is tied to an SEC TV contract. Second, with all of that "national" exposure, how come "Tiger High" continues to out recruit UT year in and out?

The fact is that the flagship University, with all of its TV contracts, BCS affiliation, and $$ continues to run a distant second in recruiting and NCAA success to, by your own words, a High School. Says alot about your program.
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Yes, Josh did recruit a great (Memphis Magic) AAU team in 2010. According to Rivals.com, this was the #2 recruiting class. The Vols were #9, not to shabby. This year Josh is having a tough time landing recruits, only AT. He missed on Madden, Miller, Gardner, and a number of other high profile players. The 2010 class included JJ, Crawford, Black, all Memphis players.
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#46
#46
CALISKING said:
Even fewer people nationally care about UT BB. When you say UT, the majority of sports fans and UT fans think in the following order:

1. Football program that used to be great.
2. Women's basketball
3. Men's basketball.

"Tiger High" has been relevant in Men's basketball since the 1970s. In every decade, the Tigers have had at least 2 Sweet Sixteen appearances, and if not for Nick Van Exel, would have a Final Four in every decade since the 70s.

Tiger High has placed a list of players too numerous to list in the NBA in the last 20 years. UT has Dale Ellis, Allan Houston, and CJ Watson.

Any college basketball expert knows and will tell you which school has a more storied tradition. Conference affiliation, city statistics, or player background makes no difference in your argument of basketball program relevance.
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For all this supposed amazing success of Memphis basketball, they rarely rate more than a blip nationally. When people think of Memphis, they think of them in the following order:

1. Elvis
2. Beale Street
3. Nearly half the episodes of The First 48
4. That team Calipari got into trouble
5. Uh, Anfernee Hardaway, maybe?
6. Wait, you mean they have a football team?

I understand the desire to overstate the success of Memphis basketball, but they still have a losing record to UT in their best sport, still opine whistfully about their one victory in the other prominent college sport nearly 15 years ago and, generally, offer little else than a mediocre and fans with a huge inferiority complex.
 
#47
#47
CALISKING said:
top5vols said:
UT has 17 national TV games this season compared to Tiger High 3. The two seasons prior were about the same. Even when your tigers were #1 for most of the season during Cal's time you could not find Tiger High on TV.[/QUOTE]

We can debate what is considered "national TV" all day long. Fine, you win, the Vols are on national TV more than the Tigers. First, most of that "national TV" is tied to an SEC TV contract. Second, with all of that "national" exposure, how come "Tiger High" continues to out recruit UT year in and out?

The fact is that the flagship University, with all of its TV contracts, BCS affiliation, and $$ continues to run a distant second in recruiting and NCAA success to, by your own words, a High School. Says alot about your program.
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The tigers and Vols 2010 recruiting classes will take the court shortly. It will be interesting to watch these classes. Will both live up to their expectations?
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#48
#48
top5vols said:
The tigers and Vols 2010 recruiting classes will take the court shortly. It will be interesting to watch these classes. Will both live up to their expectations?
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The Memphis guys have to carry the team. The UT guys just have to fit in and play supporting roles. Hard to compaer off what will happen this year.
 
#49
#49
top5vols said:
CALISKING said:
Yes, Josh did recruit a great (Memphis Magic) AAU team in 2010. According to Rivals.com, this was the #2 recruiting class. The Vols were #9, not to shabby. This year Josh is having a tough time landing recruits, only AT. He missed on Madden, Miller, Gardner, and a number of other high profile players. The 2010 class included JJ, Crawford, Black, all Memphis players.
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I don't know much about their scholarship situation, but they only have one Senior on their roster. Since they brought in a huge class (numbers wise) last year, I couldn't see them signing more than a couple of guys anyway.
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#50
#50
CALISKING said:
top5vols said:
UT has 17 national TV games this season compared to Tiger High 3. The two seasons prior were about the same. Even when your tigers were #1 for most of the season during Cal's time you could not find Tiger High on TV.[/QUOTE]

We can debate what is considered "national TV" all day long. Fine, you win, the Vols are on national TV more than the Tigers. First, most of that "national TV" is tied to an SEC TV contract. Second, with all of that "national" exposure, how come "Tiger High" continues to out recruit UT year in and out?

The fact is that the flagship University, with all of its TV contracts, BCS affiliation, and $$ continues to run a distant second in recruiting and NCAA success to, by your own words, a High School. Says alot about your program.
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What NCAA success?
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