Tennessee QB Harrison Bailey enters NCAA transfer portal

[BigOrangeTrain]

Lord, there are some sensitive people in this forum. Some of y’all hear the word “white” and it’s like someone accused you of being a Klan member.

Honest question, why was the color of someone’s skin even brought up?

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Behind our line Bailey would have been crippled in less than two games. I never cared for him, and he never had the "it" that great quarterbacks have. Just shut up and move on, just like he did.

This is pure conjecture. Nobody knows how Bailey would have done because he never got a chance. Could he have been terrible? Yes. He also could have succeeded. We will never know.

 

[Pacer92]

Lord, there are some sensitive people in this forum. Some of y’all hear the word “white” and it’s like someone accused you of being a Klan member.

Not much difference in today's world...according to press and politics

 

[2EastTnVols]

I'm no qb guru but I've watched plenty of football and I just never thought HB was anything special. His arm strength seemed average at best and was not very mobile. Both Milton and Hooker are far more talented in both areas. Could HB have had intangibles that could have made him successful, possibly. However a coach has to go with what he sees, and to me HB just didn't measure up.

 

[VolFreakJosh]

This is pure conjecture. Nobody knows how Bailey would have done because he never got a chance. Could he have been terrible? Yes. He also could have succeeded. We will never know.

Bailey would need an excellent O-Line to be somewhat good.

However, his 5* ranking was due to the fact of having Division l WRs to throw too in high school.

 

[griddie]

I'm no qb guru but I've watched plenty of football and I just never thought HB was anything special. His arm strength seemed average at best and was not very mobile. Both Milton and Hooker are far more talented in both areas. Could HB have had intangibles that could have made him successful, possibly. However a coach has to go with what he sees, and to me HB just didn't measure up.

He can play circles around Milton and will prove it. I mean 70% completion rate in the SEC as a true freshman. Milton in his 4th year couldn’t hit the ocean from the sand. But hey, he was promised the job and looks good

 

[chattavol420]

He can play circles around Milton and will prove it. I mean 70% completion rate in the SEC as a true freshman. Milton in his 4th year couldn’t hit the ocean from the sand. But hey, he was promised the job and looks good

Yep absolutely. He definitely is better than Milton and perhaps could’ve even been better than hooker. Who knows. I think we’ll find out eventually because he’ll no doubt get a shot somewhere. I’ll be rooting for him. One thing oriole do have to remember is that Bailey is still very young compared to hooker and Milton. I wonder if that had any impact. Regardless…we’ve seen enough of him to know he’s pretty good.

 

[Pacer92]

I'm no qb guru but I've watched plenty of football and I just never thought HB was anything special. His arm strength seemed average at best and was not very mobile. Both Milton and Hooker are far more talented in both areas. Could HB have had intangibles that could have made him successful, possibly. However a coach has to go with what he sees, and to me HB just didn't measure up.

Was never a advocate for Bailey, however, most of the time it's not quite that simple..

Peyton Manning, amongst numerous other HOF's, wouldn't pass the eye test versus Milton or Hooker.

Good thing intagibles have weight...

 

[2EastTnVols]

Agreed. I was always hoping that Bailey would live up to his rating and be a multi year starter here. For one reason or another it just didn't work out. I hope he has success wherever he ends up. As long at it's not at our expense.

 

[sjt18]

You really need to decide whether you are a Vol fan or a Bailey fan. You might even want to consider why you are so biased toward Bailey.

Frankly, I don't care for Milton personally. I think some of the cocky statements he made early on were ridiculous. If I went off "personality" then Hooker would be my guy followed by Bailey. But I AM a Vol fan... not the fan of a particular player. I want UT to win games and in the judgment of a HC who just did a pretty good job with a weak roster and tough schedule... Bailey wasn't a guy who could win games for UT.

LOL. Your 'evidence' is still your faith in 'evaluators' who placed Milton over Hooker must also be correct on 5 star Bailey.

Yep. I'll take coaches and knowledgeable people who actually watch players competing at the college level in practice over "5 stars" given by recruiting web sites. You're making yourself look stupid with comments like that.

Therefore, I must be stupid not to dismiss the 5-star rookie's talent on the word of 'experts' who we know got it all wrong on #1 and #2.

Well, yes. The information those people have is VASTLY superior to anything he did against HS level competition. You cannot possibly be that ignorant.

I must be a fool to place my faith in outrageously good HS stats and several great throws flashing in limited playing time.

Yes. It is extraordinarily FOOLISH to place faith in "outrageously good" HS stats versus actual competition for the job at the college level. Maurer made some great throws at the college level. Watch a few of Milton's highlights from Michigan. He threw some balls that very few QB's at any level can throw.

Surely that TD/Interception ratio had nothing to do with great decision making.

HS? You are still trying to say a college sophomore is an elite QB based on what he did in HS? That is plain dumb. In college, he has 4 TD's vs 2 INT's. Much of that was in junk time or in non-competitive situations.

Just some receiver snatching up the garbage he threw up in the air?

Yes. I LITERALLY saw his highlight videos and MANY times he threw jump 50/50 balls to Gilbert when under pressure.

Why would I be so foolish to trust my own eyes and sensibilities, when I have you - and those experts who chose Milton.

Well, maybe because coming out of spring Bailey was 3rd behind Hooker and Maurer... then he was again 3rd behind Hooker and Milton coming out of August. Not sure about your eyes but you aren't posting based on anything like good sense.

I've lived long enough to know 'experts' often get things all wrong.

But not you or the recruiting web sites, right? The guys who literally watched and evaluated every single thing in person and on film through about 40 practices and numerous scrimmages could not POSSIBLY know something about Bailey that you don't, right?

It isn't just that he wasn't 1st. He was never higher than 3rd. At least not under a competent HC and staff.

That's why we don't want the 'experts' running our lives. I still make silly mistakes on things I know a whole lot about.

Precisely. The idea that "experts" on a high level with very little direct knowledge should be running people's lives is ridiculous. And so are you concerning Bailey. You have a small fraction of the information the coaches have. You have far less information than Ainge and others who were allowed to watch practice have. But from your high horse you INSIST that Bailey is great... though no one with direct knowledge agrees.

It's human nature and many reason why we make misjudegements.

We make misjudgments because 1) we're all fallible, 2) none of us are omniscient, and 3) very often what we think we "know"... isn't true. And that explains what you've done concerning Bailey.

Obviously, this group of 'experts' fell for a physical freak with a rocket arm who couldn't do anything with either.

You mean a guy who ALL OBSERVERS said was dominant in practice when the ONLY thing the coaches had to work with was practice performance? Which was only about a million times what you have.

Meanwhile, a five star QB with no appreciable collegiate experience and no practice in his freshman year got ignored and goes bye-bye. He should at least have been #2 behind Hooker.

He didn't earn it. Simple. Even after Hooker passed Milton and it was pretty obvious that Milton had game issues... Bailey apparently had enough issues in practice that he still couldn't pass him. And that was reflected in his time vs TTU.

You have NO basis at all for saying he should have been #2 behind Hooker. None. Apparently he flat out just wasn't good. The experts who gave him 5 stars... apparently made a "misjudgment".

 

[BigALWiLson]

I dont believe at this time Bailey ever was going to be the guy here with a coaching change. Thats ok to me after seeing what Heupel and staff did with a guy like Hooker. Milton could freaking be awesome if developed over the next year. Never know really. I don't trust him with the game on the line though he will have to earn that. I trust that Heupel will get a QB though going forward. Bailey will find a groove at his next school and he has a chance to be very good. Im not sure that was the case here, not sure he was ever comfortable to play at the speed Heupel and staff wanted but I do wish the kid well.

 

[cobbwebb0710]

And what color are washing machines? Yeah, that’s right. They’re white!

Check this dudes stats!
GBO!!

 

[cobbwebb0710]

Maybe because Joe Milton beat him out. Maybe you should let that sink in before responding again.

Ridiculous stats? High school? Do you know how many guys have great hs stats and aren’t good in cfb? He may find a place to have a good career. It won’t be UT simply because he could not beat the other guys out. There’s no agenda to cheat him

Who the heck wasn’t rooting for Milton to be “the guy?”
He’s 6’5”, 245 lbs, with a cannon arm!
I know I certainly was hoping he was the one!

GBO!!

 

[Jaingo]

Who the heck wasn’t rooting for Milton to be “the guy?”
He’s 6’5”, 245 lbs, with a cannon arm!
I know I certainly was hoping he was the one!

GBO!!

Anyone that watches football, even when Michigan is playing. If he was ever any good, Harbaugh would have never benched him. I mean ffs, CJH went with freaking Kaepernick. His physical stats on paper will always look amazing. I'll just be glad when he transfers again.

 

[cobbwebb0710]

Anyone that watches football, even when Michigan is playing. If he was ever any good, Harbaugh would have never benched him. I mean ffs, CJH went with freaking Kaepernick. His physical stats on paper will always look amazing. I'll just be glad when he transfers again.

Yeah, and Cutcliffe went with Brandon Stewart...
GBO!!

 

[Old Geezer]

You really need to decide whether you are a Vol fan or a Bailey fan. You might even want to consider why you are so biased toward Bailey.

Frankly, I don't care for Milton personally. I think some of the cocky statements he made early on were ridiculous. If I went off "personality" then Hooker would be my guy followed by Bailey. But I AM a Vol fan... not the fan of a particular player. I want UT to win games and in the judgment of a HC who just did a pretty good job with a weak roster and tough schedule... Bailey wasn't a guy who could win games for UT. Yep. I'll take coaches and knowledgeable people who actually watch players competing at the college level in practice over "5 stars" given by recruiting web sites. You're making yourself look stupid with comments like that.

Well, yes. The information those people have is VASTLY superior to anything he did against HS level competition. You cannot possibly be that ignorant.

Yes. It is extraordinarily FOOLISH to place faith in "outrageously good" HS stats versus actual competition for the job at the college level. Maurer made some great throws at the college level. Watch a few of Milton's highlights from Michigan. He threw some balls that very few QB's at any level can throw.
HS? You are still trying to say a college sophomore is an elite QB based on what he did in HS? That is plain dumb. In college, he has 4 TD's vs 2 INT's. Much of that was in junk time or in non-competitive situations. Yes. I LITERALLY saw his highlight videos and MANY times he threw jump 50/50 balls to Gilbert when under pressure.

Well, maybe because coming out of spring Bailey was 3rd behind Hooker and Maurer... then he was again 3rd behind Hooker and Milton coming out of August. Not sure about your eyes but you aren't posting based on anything like good sense.

But not you or the recruiting web sites, right? The guys who literally watched and evaluated every single thing in person and on film through about 40 practices and numerous scrimmages could not POSSIBLY know something about Bailey that you don't, right?

It isn't just that he wasn't 1st. He was never higher than 3rd. At least not under a competent HC and staff.

Precisely. The idea that "experts" on a high level with very little direct knowledge should be running people's lives is ridiculous. And so are you concerning Bailey. You have a small fraction of the information the coaches have. You have far less information than Ainge and others who were allowed to watch practice have. But from your high horse you INSIST that Bailey is great... though no one with direct knowledge agrees.

We make misjudgments because 1) we're all fallible, 2) none of us are omniscient, and 3) very often what we think we "know"... isn't true. And that explains what you've done concerning Bailey.
You mean a guy who ALL OBSERVERS said was dominant in practice when the ONLY thing the coaches had to work with was practice performance? Which was only about a million times what you have.


He didn't earn it. Simple. Even after Hooker passed Milton and it was pretty obvious that Milton had game issues... Bailey apparently had enough issues in practice that he still couldn't pass him. And that was reflected in his time vs TTU.

You have NO basis at all for saying he should have been #2 behind Hooker. None. Apparently he flat out just wasn't good. The experts who gave him 5 stars... apparently made a "misjudgment".

You got knocked off your high horse with facts and reason after your initial obnoxious condescending comments were trounced. You have nothing more to offer, so you lie about me being a 'Bailey fan' over a Vol fan, then double down your blind faith in the infallibility of evaluators who thought Milton was the runaway #1 QB. Then you lie about the irrelevancy of past HS performance - the ONLY relevant reason why players are recruited. Then you lie about your being correct to attribute those gawdy QB stats to a single receiver
Then you project all your foolishness and blind trust in 'experts' upon me - after agreeing with the foolishness of blindly trusting 'authority' opinions.
It not enough to compulsively disagree and obsessively respond to every comment when you have nothing of substance to add. I understand you're obsessed and invested. I understand you resent those that questioned the wisdom of looking past Bailey. I understand you trust the judgement of 'our' experts above all experts despite their obvious misjudgement on Milton. I get all that. However, you really don't have any point.
You're just obsessed, invested and on that high horse ...again.

 

[VOLnMiami]

Has Bailey been crystal balled to anyone yet?

 

[Old Geezer]

Behind our line Bailey would have been crippled in less than two games. I never cared for him, and he never had the "it" that great quarterbacks have. Just shut up and move on, just like he did.

Solid info. Just the sort of speculation and conjecture that I rely upon to make good decisions. Good grief.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Has Bailey been crystal balled to anyone yet?

With Ewers, Rattler, and Dillon Gabriel in the portal, there's pretty good talent to pick from. I'm not sure Maurer and Bailey will see a lot of looks until the big guys land somewhere.

 

[VOLnMiami]

With Ewers, Rattler, and Dillon Gabriel in the portal, there's pretty good talent to pick from. I'm not sure Maurer and Bailey will see a lot of looks until the big guys land somewhere.

Not gonna lie, I completely forgot about Maurer being out there....I hope he ends up somewhere he can play.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Not gonna lie, I completely forgot about Maurer being out there....I hope he ends up somewhere he can play.

I think both guys can and should play somewhere but I'm doubtful either plays in the SEC again.

Maybe Bailey goes to GaTech but I think Maurer might need to aim a little lower if he wants to start.

I do wish them well.

 

[Mose Phillip's Watch]

He tweeted tonite from Athens GA he made up his mind but 600 Georgia Tech fans acted like he was signing there

 

[ToHellWithUGA]

Has Bailey been crystal balled to anyone yet?

Just one to GT so far.

We just hired Chip Long as OC, and he with you guys and Harrison Bailey in 2020. So, that could help us as well.

 

[aRmo]

You really need to decide whether you are a Vol fan or a Bailey fan. You might even want to consider why you are so biased toward Bailey.

Frankly, I don't care for Milton personally. I think some of the cocky statements he made early on were ridiculous. If I went off "personality" then Hooker would be my guy followed by Bailey. But I AM a Vol fan... not the fan of a particular player. I want UT to win games and in the judgment of a HC who just did a pretty good job with a weak roster and tough schedule... Bailey wasn't a guy who could win games for UT. Yep. I'll take coaches and knowledgeable people who actually watch players competing at the college level in practice over "5 stars" given by recruiting web sites. You're making yourself look stupid with comments like that.

Well, yes. The information those people have is VASTLY superior to anything he did against HS level competition. You cannot possibly be that ignorant.

Yes. It is extraordinarily FOOLISH to place faith in "outrageously good" HS stats versus actual competition for the job at the college level. Maurer made some great throws at the college level. Watch a few of Milton's highlights from Michigan. He threw some balls that very few QB's at any level can throw.
HS? You are still trying to say a college sophomore is an elite QB based on what he did in HS? That is plain dumb. In college, he has 4 TD's vs 2 INT's. Much of that was in junk time or in non-competitive situations. Yes. I LITERALLY saw his highlight videos and MANY times he threw jump 50/50 balls to Gilbert when under pressure.

Well, maybe because coming out of spring Bailey was 3rd behind Hooker and Maurer... then he was again 3rd behind Hooker and Milton coming out of August. Not sure about your eyes but you aren't posting based on anything like good sense.

But not you or the recruiting web sites, right? The guys who literally watched and evaluated every single thing in person and on film through about 40 practices and numerous scrimmages could not POSSIBLY know something about Bailey that you don't, right?

It isn't just that he wasn't 1st. He was never higher than 3rd. At least not under a competent HC and staff.

Precisely. The idea that "experts" on a high level with very little direct knowledge should be running people's lives is ridiculous. And so are you concerning Bailey. You have a small fraction of the information the coaches have. You have far less information than Ainge and others who were allowed to watch practice have. But from your high horse you INSIST that Bailey is great... though no one with direct knowledge agrees.

We make misjudgments because 1) we're all fallible, 2) none of us are omniscient, and 3) very often what we think we "know"... isn't true. And that explains what you've done concerning Bailey.
You mean a guy who ALL OBSERVERS said was dominant in practice when the ONLY thing the coaches had to work with was practice performance? Which was only about a million times what you have.


He didn't earn it. Simple. Even after Hooker passed Milton and it was pretty obvious that Milton had game issues... Bailey apparently had enough issues in practice that he still couldn't pass him. And that was reflected in his time vs TTU.

You have NO basis at all for saying he should have been #2 behind Hooker. None. Apparently he flat out just wasn't good. The experts who gave him 5 stars... apparently made a "misjudgment".

My guy, you can’t give in to the pure ignorance of these types of fans. Just shake your head and move on. Milton is and always will be better than Bailey.

 

[sjt18]

My guy, you can’t give in to the pure ignorance of these types of fans. Just shake your head and move on. Milton is and always will be better than Bailey.

Just entertaining sometimes. Its a flaw I know.