JohnWardForever
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Remember back in the early 2010s when Oregon would run up the score against subpar Pac 12 teams. Then they play a team with athletes like Auburn and gets exposed. Indiana is a well coached team that is playing good football. But there's a reason people recruit 5-star athletes over 3-star athletes. Because in the long run talent wins out. If Indiana plays Ohio State close and performs well in the playoffs I'll be the first to give them their credit. But I gotta see it to believe it.
As a Tennessee fan I'd rather see them and their 3-star athletes in the playoffs than a team like Alabama for a second time or an LSU or A&M with their 5-star athletes all over the field.
I think you are strongly underestimating their resume. They beat Nebraska 56-7, the same Nebraska team that lost by 4 to #2 Ohio State . The same Nebraska that beat #20 Colorado. They have won every game by at least 14. They beat Mich state at Mich state by greater margins than Oregon or Ohio state did and Oregon was at Oregon. They beat UCLA by 29 at UCLA, which is much more than Oregon did And much more than Penn State AND LSU did both playing at home.
#1 Ohio State |
#2 Miami |
#3 Tennessee |
#4 BYU |
#5 Oregon |
#6 Texas |
I think that's right.Not really. The Big 12 and ACC are likely to only get their champions in the playoffs. A close loss at Georgia keeps us firmly in the playoffs
Yah, checking your math, I think you got it dead-on right.First off, GBO, beat Mississippi State! Nothing else matters, yet. That said...
Check my math on this but... We want aTm to beat Texas. More than that, throwing up in my mouth a little bit but we want Alabama to beat LSU.
So long as we take care of business against Georgia and win out, and Alabama beats LSU, we're playing winner of aTm-Texas in Atlanta. If LSU wins, there's a tiebreak scenario where we don't go even if we win out.
Let's say Tennessee, LSU and Texas win out, and we're all 7-1 in conference. The tie breakers are:
A. Head-to-head competition among the tied teams: None of us play each other
B. Record versus all common Conference opponents among the tied teams: Opponents common to all three teams are Oklahoma, Arkansas, Florida, Vanderbilt. LSU's loss (aTm) and Texas's loss (Alabama) aren't to a common opponent of all three, and Arkansas is, so we'd be odd team out.
If it's a 3-way tie the other way and aTm wins the Lone Star Showdown, then it's us, LSU and aTm. We don't play either of them. aTm beat LSU head to head. So we're in on the first tie breaker and would play aTm. But LSU beating Alabama and getting into that 3-way tie would mean we needed an outcome from a game we're not in.
If Alabama beats LSU and we beat Georgia, that means Texas vs aTm decides who the only other one loss team is. So y'all saying you want LSU to win can just stop I would hate to see us at 7-1 and not getting to Atlanta because LSU and Texas both won.
Warde Manuel explains separation between Tennessee, Penn State in initial CFP rankingsGood point. The big 10 sucks. They always think Ohio state is a big win against Penn state and I never understand that
This is one of the more asinine explanations I have seen. Basically, PSU is getting credit from the playoff committee for winning at 4-4 West Virginia because it is a difficult place to play(btw 3 of their 4 losses are at home), struggling to beat 6-3 Illinois at home(who just got destroyed by Oregon and beat at home by Minnesota in back to back weeks), and escaping what should have been a loss in OT at 4-5 powerhouse USC. Those three amazingly astonishing feats, coupled with a 7 point home loss to the only ranked team they have played, is their justification for them being ahead of Tennessee. I get that they have the better loss but our wins over Florida, Oklahoma, and NC State are as good or better than the wins Manuel cited for PSU and that isn't even including the Bama win, who the committee thinks is good enough for a playoff spot right now with two losses. As odd as this is to say, I agree with the Bammer Greg McElroy that we actually have a legitimate argument to be ahead of both Penn State and Texas.Warde Manuel explains separation between Tennessee, Penn State in initial CFP rankings
“Well, Penn State lost to the No. 2 Ohio State Buckeyes, and it was a game that went back and forth, and obviously a game that could have gone the other way. It was back and forth,” said Manuel during Tuesday’s teleconference. “In that, they have wins over Illinois and Southern Cal in overtime, an opening win at West Virginia, which is difficult to play. So we looked at their body of work.
Tennessee has an impressive win over Alabama at No. 11 and wins over North Carolina State and Oklahoma, 4-1 against teams above .500. The loss at Arkansas was something that we discussed a lot,”
Like Arkansas?
This is one of the more asinine explanations I have seen. Basically, PSU is getting credit from the playoff committee for winning at 4-4 West Virginia because it is a difficult place to play(btw 3 of their 4 losses are at home), struggling to beat 6-3 Illinois at home(who just got destroyed by Oregon and beat at home by Minnesota in back to back weeks), and escaping what should have been a loss in OT at 4-5 powerhouse USC. Those three amazingly astonishing feats, coupled with a 7 point home loss to the only ranked team they have played, is their justification for them being ahead of Tennessee. I get that they have the better loss but our wins over Florida, Oklahoma, and NC State are as good or better than the wins Manuel cited for PSU and that isn't even including the Bama win, who the committee thinks is good enough for a playoff spot right now with two losses. As odd as this is to say, I agree with the Bammer Greg McElroy that we actually have a legitimate argument to be ahead of both Penn State and Texas.