Tennessee Softball 2024

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Majors said:
Not to discredit the logistics, but D1 softball/sports and what it entails isn’t for everyone. They weed themselves out.
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Agreed, but it also does not help these athletes when you are essentially traveling across 3 time zones on some weekends in addition to having to figure out school on the road. Also for some of these families it must be very difficult, I know a lot of athletes who choose a school that is a relatively close drive/short flight away to watch their kids play. I know Paige Snicki at Oregon talked about it when it was first announced Oregon was moving to the big 10. Is that the reality of the situation? Yes which is extremely sad.
 
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anecwnrjcns12 said:
Agreed, but it also does not help these athletes when you are essentially traveling across 3 time zones on some weekends in addition to having to figure out school on the road. Also for some of these families it must be very difficult, I know a lot of athletes who choose a school that is a relatively close drive/short flight away to watch their kids play. I know Paige Snicki at Oregon talked about it when it was first announced Oregon was moving to the big 10. Is that the reality of the situation? Yes which is extremely sad.
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Sure, many played PAC 12 because it was close for family. Tennessee has parents/family make the trip to SPL from the West Coast for each/majority home games. Unfortunate situation for PAC12 teams but the new reality. See home games for the remainder of their career/other close games or travel 100% to see them play across the country.
 
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Okie said:
She may end up at Oklahoma, but I am hearing that it isn't because of any NIL deal. Patty Gasso has the ability to sell the best facilities in the world, a string of 4 consecutive National Championships, a solid defensive group to back her pitching (which she lacks at Stanford), being much closer to home, not having to travel across the country for an ACC schedule, and a lot more.

OU hasn't needed to pay players to come. They sell the best program in the country and girls line up wanting in. They may get some NIL money, but it isn't a main driver.
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1. Even with the new stadium, they don't have the best facilities in the world. Love's Stadium is, at best, the fifth-best stadium in the SEC. Auburn's stadium sucks, but their indoor facility blows the OU one away.

2. Patty can certainly sell the most talented team in the country.

3. Stanford playing in the ACC is going to be a disaster for them on a lot of levels.

4. If you honestly believe that the six-figure cherry on top isn't the deciding factor for the majority of the transfers you've had the last few years, then you're clinically insane. The only person that turned down OU money was Vawter and that's because Dawn Staley got a donor to pay over OU's offer to try and save Bev's job.
 
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1. Even with the new stadium, they don't have the best facilities in the world. Love's Stadium is, at best, the fifth-best stadium in the SEC. Auburn's stadium sucks, but their indoor facility blows the OU one away.

2. Patty can certainly sell the most talented team in the country.

3. Stanford playing in the ACC is going to be a disaster for them on a lot of levels.

4. If you honestly believe that the six-figure cherry on top isn't the deciding factor for the majority of the transfers you've had the last few years, then you're clinically insane. The only person that turned down OU money was Vawter and that's because Dawn Staley got a donor to pay over OU's offer to try and save Bev's job.
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Agree on all but #1. Which SEC stadiums are better?
 
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M40 said:
Agree on all but #1. Which SEC stadiums are better?
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Texas A&M is the best in the country by a mile. Arkansas, Florida and LSU are definitely better. I'd argue that Alabama, Mississippi State, South Carolina and Kentucky are at least even as well, particularly when you factor in the total facilities, not just the stadium. Ole Miss will be up there when it's done. I'm probably forgetting someone, but it's been a minute since I've been to some.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
Texas A&M is the best in the country by a mile. Arkansas, Florida and LSU are definitely better. I'd argue that Alabama, Mississippi State, South Carolina and Kentucky are at least even as well, particularly when you factor in the total facilities, not just the stadium. Ole Miss will be up there when it's done. I'm probably forgetting someone, but it's been a minute since I've been to some.
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I think just stadium and field (not counting indoor/practice facilities, or anything else), OU's Loves Field is best in the country to my eyes, and I've been in all of them and on the fields/inside the facilities. It's the most beautiful by far to me with the largest capacity now. I know you meant more than that, but at least for that first part it beats them all for me. I thought the new training facility blew the old one away though and seemed pretty great. Maybe more upgrades are coming?
 
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Majors said:
Those sound like all the Twitter spins. If that was the case, I don’t think DeerPark would have stated the amount being larger then 250K speculated here and elsewhere from what he’s heard.
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Anyone can go on Twitter, VolNation, or anywhere else online and anonymously make claims. They don't even have to be anonymous, they can just use the old "sources say" journalistic trick. Even "journalists" get it wrong when they are speculating based on rumor, internet chat, etc.

The reality is that we don't know and most likely won't ever know for certain, unless we have seen the signed contract - which I doubt DeerPark or anyone else on here or anywhere else online has. I know I haven't and the people I talk to haven't. Perhaps he has. If so, I will stand corrected.

Money changing hands for players goes way back and is assumed to be the primary motivator for kids who go to a school. With NIL, it's more "above board", but still leaves tons of room for speculation which is what I think is going on. The NCAA doesn't seem to have much worth anymore, but one thing that they could do is require all NIL deals to be disclosed. That would help shut down the rumors, and kids playing the schools against one another with bluffs of how much another school has offered. It won't end it all, there will still be cash under the table or in McDonald's bags, but might level it out some.
 
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Okie said:
Anyone can go on Twitter, VolNation, or anywhere else online and anonymously make claims. They don't even have to be anonymous, they can just use the old "sources say" journalistic trick. Even "journalists" get it wrong when they are speculating based on rumor, internet chat, etc.

The reality is that we don't know and most likely won't ever know for certain, unless we have seen the signed contract - which I doubt DeerPark or anyone else on here or anywhere else online has. I know I haven't and the people I talk to haven't. Perhaps he has. If so, I will stand corrected.

Money changing hands for players goes way back and is assumed to be the primary motivator for kids who go to a school. With NIL, it's more "above board", but still leaves tons of room for speculation which is what I think is going on. The NCAA doesn't seem to have much worth anymore, but one thing that they could do is require all NIL deals to be disclosed. That would help shut down the rumors, and kids playing the schools against one another with bluffs of how much another school has offered. It won't end it all, there will still be cash under the table or in McDonald's bags, but might level it out some.
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Nice long winded spin. Unfortunately, it was discussed here weeks ago well before it made its way to mass social firestorm. The contract is a nice opt out but as long as money has changed hands egos have talked.

Part of Candays worth IMO was her elevating Stanford alone ….no disrespect to the greatness that is OU but to me she cheapened her game by chasing. I’d say the same for Pickens, Rothrock and Berzon. She was celebrated by fans of other teams, now she crossed over to fans wanting her to lose.
 
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Majors said:
Nice long winded spin. Unfortunately, it was discussed here weeks ago well before it made its way to mass social firestorm. The contract is a nice opt out but as long as money has changed hands egos have talked.

Part of Candays worth IMO was her elevating Stanford alone ….no disrespect to the greatness that is OU but to me she cheapened her game by chasing. I’d say the same for Pickens, Rothrock and Berzon. She was celebrated by fans of other teams, now she crossed over to fans wanting her to lose.
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I couldn’t agree more. Same for Maxwell this season.

Oklahoma has become nothing but a bunch of mercenaries looking for the easy way out.

Much more respectable to stay with your school and try to elevate it to a title.

And I’m not against transferring to get a chance to play more, etc.
 
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EZE said:
I couldn’t agree more. Same for Maxwell this season.

Oklahoma has become nothing but a bunch of mercenaries looking for the easy way out.

Much more respectable to stay with your school and try to elevate it to a title.

And I’m not against transferring to get a chance to play more, etc.
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That’s what made Odicci such a fan favorite nationally. She elevated her team from strong mid-major to WCWS team.
 
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Majors said:
Nice long winded spin. Unfortunately, it was discussed here weeks ago well before it made its way to mass social firestorm. The contract is a nice opt out but as long as money has changed hands egos have talked.

Part of Candays worth IMO was her elevating Stanford alone ….no disrespect to the greatness that is OU but to me she cheapened her game by chasing. I’d say the same for Pickens, Rothrock and Berzon. She was celebrated by fans of other teams, now she crossed over to fans wanting her to lose.
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Again, speculation. Whether it started well before it made it to a mass social firestorm doesn't change the fact that we don't actually know. Call it spin or whatever you want, we still don't know.
 
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Okie said:
Again, speculation. Whether it started well before it made it to a mass social firestorm doesn't change the fact that we don't actually know. Call it spin or whatever you want, we still don't know.
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Believe deniers call it coincidence not speculation.
 
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