Tennessee Vols Basketball Recruiting

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bleedingTNorange said:
It’s going to hurt the smaller schools, the product on the court “we” see like SEC and other P5 will probably be better.
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I don’t think so. I think the best product we would see is an older team that’s played together for a long time. I don’t think we see many of those type teams at all now.
 
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BruinVol said:
I don’t think so. I think the best product we would see is an older team that’s played together for a long time. I don’t think we see many of those type teams at all now.
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It’s not as if everyone is gonna add 4-5 players, I think teams who are expected to be really good maybe add nobody or just 1 player to fill a spot they fill is a weakness...every P5 team won’t be adding multiple transfers.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
It’s not as if everyone is gonna add 4-5 players, I think teams who are expected to be really good maybe add nobody or just 1 player to fill a spot they fill is a weakness...every P5 team won’t be adding multiple transfers.
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Agree but I think we have seen a team like Kentucky really take steps backwards once they started added grad transfers. I don’t think Barnes does a good job with them either

The coaches like Pearl do a better job due to being less structured
 
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If Tennessee was gonna take tamba, they should’ve just took the jog from Catholic last year that is at vandy now . He’s way better .
 
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I don't think we're going to see a huge shift in the product on the court as Bruin is suggesting, at least not long term. This "free" year will certainly throw a wrench in the 2021-2022 season, but after that things will revert to a somewhat normal structure. As BTO said, if you're expected to be a really good team, you probably aren't going to add many (if any) transfers. You're probably going to be "really good" because you lose almost no one and don't need to hit the market.

If anything, this one stop gap "free" year probably benefits us more than most. We're more than likely losing 4 starters plus 1-2 bench pieces. We're an attractive landing spot with Kennedy Chandler and a Hall of Fame coach in a major market, so this strange year will probably help us get a few really solid pieces in here and to keep this from being a rebuilding year with the #1 PG on the roster. Without the transfer rules, we probably are looking at a mediocre season next year. Now? The market is ripe for picking.
 
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BillVol7 said:
I just don’t think we need to add another project (Tamba). We have plenty already. I mean come on , the guy averages 6 points in his h.s. career.
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I don’t know anything about him. Was he born in the US? How long has he been playing organized basketball? What is his ppm year-over-year? How much has he been improving from the day he walked on Catholic’s campus? If he’s new to basketball, was he really good in a different sport earlier? Like KA was with soccer?
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
I don't think we're going to see a huge shift in the product on the court as Bruin is suggesting, at least not long term. This "free" year will certainly throw a wrench in the 2021-2022 season, but after that things will revert to a somewhat normal structure. As BTO said, if you're expected to be a really good team, you probably aren't going to add many (if any) transfers. You're probably going to be "really good" because you lose almost no one and don't need to hit the market.

If anything, this one stop gap "free" year probably benefits us more than most. We're more than likely losing 4 starters plus 1-2 bench pieces. We're an attractive landing spot with Kennedy Chandler and a Hall of Fame coach in a major market, so this strange year will probably help us get a few really solid pieces in here and to keep this from being a rebuilding year with the #1 PG on the roster. Without the transfer rules, we probably are looking at a mediocre season next year. Now? The market is ripe for picking.
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the free year and transfers hit this year is going to make much fewer Hs incoming players than ever before at the power 5 level. I think it’s 2-4 years down the road before you really notice the changes
 
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BruinVol said:
the free year and transfers hit this year is going to make much fewer Hs incoming players than ever before at the power 5 level. I think it’s 2-4 years down the road before you really notice the changes
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How so? Free year players won't count against the scholarship limits and transfers are an option every year. Not sure how that affects overall incoming class in any large number.
 
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JelloPuddinPup said:
How so? Free year players won't count against the scholarship limits and transfers are an option every year. Not sure how that affects overall incoming class in any large number.
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I believe those seniors count if you take them as a transfer. I think I heard that somewhere. They don’t count if they stay at their current school, but as a transfer, they would count against scholarship limits. I might be making that up, but I thought I remembered reading that.
 
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cncchris33 said:
I believe those seniors count if you take them as a transfer. I think I heard that somewhere. They don’t count if they stay at their current school, but as a transfer, they would count against scholarship limits. I might be making that up, but I thought I remembered reading that.
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That is correct, I just don't see many power 5 schools taking that option any more than they would normal transfers each year. I just don't see it being significant or having a major effect on the incoming classes.
 
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JelloPuddinPup said:
That is correct, I just don't see many power 5 schools taking that option any more than they would normal transfers each year. I just don't see it being significant or having a major effect on the incoming classes.
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So, I guess “significant” is relative. I guess Bruin’s point is that for every transfer to another P5 program, that is one less spot available for a HS kid with fringe P5 offers. Does that affect 5 kids? Does it affect 35 kids? I don’t know that answer, but it will affect some.
 
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cncchris33 said:
So, I guess “significant” is relative. I guess Bruin’s point is that for every transfer to another P5 program, that is one less spot available for a HS kid with fringe P5 offers. Does that affect 5 kids? Does it affect 35 kids? I don’t know that answer, but it will affect some.
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I see your point but that's true every year no matter what. Every transfer = one less spot available for a HS kid. Whether there is a one time transfer waiver put in or not. The transfer portal has already put a spotlight on transfers in general so I'm not informed enough to know if that created an increase in transfers or not, but currently I don't see how it changes anything for incoming HS kids yet. I feel like there's probably a stat out there that shows that most transfers fill spots that were created by other transfers instead of just natural progression of players graduating/going pro.

Look at us for example. We're talking about creating spots for transfers by potentially asking players to leave the team, we're not ignoring or not taking incoming HS players we want that want to come here for transfers.
 
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JelloPuddinPup said:
How so? Free year players won't count against the scholarship limits and transfers are an option every year. Not sure how that affects overall incoming class in any large number.
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Number one the more transfers obviously means less freshmen

then as I said This is a 2-4 year process. The returning seniors will take minutes away from the fewer freshmen which means more of them will transfer and develop slower

the ncaa really screwed up and hurt these Hs kids. It’s clearly the worst time ever to be an incoming athlete into the ncaa
 
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