Tennessees chance.......

[OWB]

Getting your azz beat down isn't the same thing as choking. You have to be IN the game to choke, or have a chance to win first?? :focus:

Not if you know the Hokies and know that they always have a couple of games each season where they just shut down and don't do anything. That's choking too.

 

[milohimself]

Other than miles LSU's biggest problem is going to be their o and d lines. they lost alot of lineman just like UT. And im not to confident in LSU's running game this year. both running backs coming off major injuries and a depleted line. i smell trouble for LSU.

Um, they just have one good running back left from last year. Addai entered the draft, Broussard is still around.

 

[VolBeef88]

Um, they just have one good running back left from last year. Addai entered the draft, Broussard is still around.

Actually milo they do have 2 they have Alley Broussard and Justin Vincent and both are coming off of ACL's.

 

[vols kick balls]

:nener:

 

[LadyinOrange]

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

Whatever.

 

[milohimself]

Actually milo they do have 2 they have Alley Broussard and Justin Vincent and both are coming off of ACL's.

 

[VolBeef88]

What? I'm missing it. Is that orygun humor?

 

[tarvol23]

Not grasping at anything, the genius Hatevol proclaims how secretly talented LSU is, I just pointed out that they must have left the secrets in the bag that night. Hatevol loves the miserable season we had last year, it is the ammunition he needs to argue for the return of Johnny Majors probably. I hated last season too, but the I will look at the whole picture and not one lousy season.

the lsu game is a good example of a talented team being the victim of bad coaching. they missmanaged the clock before the half and choked the second half. any one watching the game could see it coming, especially after tn finally got on the board. coaching is not everything as some of you love to point out. the little things that get you beat is where coaching comes in to play.

 

[gonygonygo]

the lsu game is a good example of a talented team being the victim of bad coaching. they missmanaged the clock before the half and choked the second half. any one watching the game could see it coming, especially after tn finally got on the board. coaching is not everything as some of you love to point out. the little things that get you beat is where coaching comes in to play.

So, according to your take, our problems had very little to do with bad coaching! I agree! That's what I've been trying to tell people around here for over a year.

 

[therickbol]

What is the evidence in support of this assertion?

Evidence? Talent....not football skills or football IQ, but pure talent. Talent is God given gifts such as running a 4.4 forty time, having a 40" vertical leap, or having a cannon for an arm. Those things standing alone are talent, which leads to the word potential. If I am 6'3 200lbs. and run a 4.4 forty then I am 'upper echelon talent' but that doesnt make me an All-SEC WR. For that I need to develop that raw talent into football abilities. UTK's roster is still full of OL that have the frame, build, and athleticism necessary. But most seem to still just be raw talent. Same can be said for basically every position on the roster.

 

[hatvol96]

Evidence? Talent....not football skills or football IQ, but pure talent. Talent is God given gifts such as running a 4.4 forty time, having a 40" vertical leap, or having a cannon for an arm. Those things standing alone are talent, which leads to the word potential. If I am 6'3 200lbs. and run a 4.4 forty then I am 'upper echelon talent' but that doesnt make me an All-SEC WR. For that I need to develop that raw talent into football abilities. UTK's roster is still full of OL that have the frame, build, and athleticism necessary. But most seem to still just be raw talent. Same can be said for basically every position on the roster.

You mean the offensive linemen who were so slow last year that UT couldn't execute a screen pass?

 

[jakez4ut]

TN's chances of winning the SEC? slim to none. I think 2nd in the East is very possible, 3rd likely.

Right now, on paper, i'd say UF, LSU and AUB are all better than TN right now. Make no mistake, LSU has talent, Miles is the question. UGA should be great on D, and they are loaded at running back. quesiton is at qb, if they are one dimensional on offense, they could be the 3rd place team in the East.

And as for UF, on paper, they should be great, but their schedule is brutal. their four game stretch in the middle of the season (Bama, LSU, Auburn, UGA) will not be fun. then throw in the early tilt @ TN, and late games with USC (and Spurrier don't forget) and @FSU....tough, tough, tough. they get 10 wins, they've really accomplished something..there's no shame in a two loss season given that schedule.

Auburn generally disappoints when the expectations are high, so they'll be interesting to watch this season. LSU the same....Bama will have the same problem UGA has...who will step up at qb? if they get good qb play, they could be contenders.

But as it stands right now, i like UF, TN, UGA, USC, KY, Vandy to finish in that oder in the East, and in the West, I like Aub, LSU, Ark, Bama, Ole Miss, MSU in the West. Aub wins the SEC.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

Subject to change based on preseason injuries, expulsions, etc. here are my SEC preseason picks with record and some explanation:

SEC West:
1. Auburn (12-0). Even if AU is not quite as good as expected their schedule is perfect with 4 nonconference cupcakes and all quality opponents at home. I think they beat LSU, the primary competition in the West, at the plains thus securing the head-to-head tiebreaker agasint the Bayou Bengals. I could see the Aubies dropping one to either UF or UGA along the way which would pretty much screw up my whole SEC East projeciton. If they do somehow get to the Iron Bowl without a loss I would not be the least bit surprised to see the Tide bite them in the a$$ and ruin the BCS championship dreams.

2. LSU (10-2). I'm not sure if Arizona and Fresno St. were competitive when LSU scheduled them but they sure aren't now. The nonconference schedule is walk in the park. LSU does have three brutal road games at AU, UT and UF. I'm going to get ballsy and go ahead and call LSU's regular season losses at AU and K-town.

3. Ole Miss (9-3). Please nod your head if you are now convinced that I have lost my mind, assuming I ever had it in the first place. I've got two words for those of you who are now nodding like you are affected by Tourette's Syndrome, Brent Schaeffer. I don't think he's the be-all-end-all or anything, but he will keep Coach O out of the fryin' pan for a little longer. Look for the Rebs to take their hits against UGA, AU and LSU. I'm calling suprise road wins at Mizzou, Bama and Arky.

4. Arkansas (6-6). Attention Pigs...the Mustain renaissance will not begin this year. I'm not about to jump on the Nutt bandwagon. Look for Woooo Pig whoopins from USC, AU, Ole Miss, S.Carolina, UT and LSU.

5. Alabama (6-6). The toughest nonconference foe looks to be Duke. Throw in Vandy and Miss St. and six wins are pretty much a lock. Losses to Arky, UF, Ole Miss, UT, LSU, and AU will put Shula straight into the fire (forget the frying pan). I could actually see the Tide taking 4th with a win over Arkansas and finishing 7-5.

6. Miss St. (4-8). I'm assuming they can get the road win at UAB.

SEC East:
1. Tennessee (11-1). We do it the old school Fulmer way. Loose to Florida, beat UGA and hope to heck that somebody covers our loss for us.
2. S.Carolina (10-2). Spurrier proves that last year was no fluke and he does it in style with wins against divisional rivals UF and UGA and in-state rival Clemson. Only losses to AU and UT sully the record. You can't spell "citrus" without "USC" So what if it's the Capital One now?
3. Florida (8-4). I am confident that our resident Gators will dissect this one into oblivion, but I'm thinking that UF beats UT early and adds a big win against UGA. However, the LSU and Auburn games loom large and I'm sticking them both in the the "L" column. Add a loss to the Ole Ball Coach, I know that's gonna' sting, and a loss to Fl.St. and you see where I'm coming from. If UF looses to UT, I fully expect a serious QB controversy and we might see the wheels come off the bus for the Gator Nation ala the '05 Vols.
4. Georgia (8-4). Even with a great defense, it's hard to win with a sputtering offense. Tereshinski sure 'aint going to get it done for the Dawgs. Look for Stafford to be the starter half way through the season as Richt decides to look toward the future. Losses to S.Car, UT, UF and AU. I know people will balk about the UT over UGA call. My brief analysis of that game is that the Dawgs will not be able to throw on UT's secondary this year. The Georgia running game is weak. UT will hand it off to Foster 35+ times and repeat the stunner of 2004.
5. Kentucky (5-7). This might be considered a rebound in Lexington. Losses to Louisville (that one will probably be the catalyst for firing Rich Brooks), Ole Miss, UF, S.Car, LSU, UGA and UT.
6. Vandy (2-10). Life without Cutler is going to be hell on West End. Guaranteed losses to Michigan, Bama, Arky, UGA, S.Car, UF and UT. If my Ole Miss theory holds up count that road game a loss. Add a pair of road losses to fellow cellar dwellers, but home favorites, Duke and KY and it looks like the only win over a 1A opponent this year will be Temple.

 

[Low Country Vol]

I'll bet the Peach Bowl Champions always have high expectations for the next season.

Russell is inconsistent and they have a lot of tough games on the road.

We can not even win the Peach bowl. In fact we gave up in both those games. it was a disgrace.

 

[Vol423]

I think it's really simple for UT this year. Our D will be fine and our Special teams will be adiquate. The season hinges on how we pass the ball. We know we can run it but if we can't throw with some success it will be another tough season.

We know that we can run the ball? I don't. Sure, we ran the ball well against Vanderbilt, Kentucky, South Carolina and Vanderbilt, but we should be able to do anything that we want against those teams. The question that needs to be asked is if we can effectively run the ball against Alabama, Georgia, Florida, and LSU. The jury is still out on that one, and those are the games that will make or break the season for UT. We haven't been a great running team in a number of years, and our offensive line is questionable going in to this season.

 

[OrangeSquare]

Subject to change based on preseason injuries, expulsions, etc. here are my SEC preseason picks with record and some explanation:

SEC West:
1. Auburn (12-0). Even if AU is not quite as good as expected their schedule is perfect with 4 nonconference cupcakes and all quality opponents at home. I think they beat LSU, the primary competition in the West, at the plains thus securing the head-to-head tiebreaker agasint the Bayou Bengals. I could see the Aubies dropping one to either UF or UGA along the way which would pretty much screw up my whole SEC East projeciton. If they do somehow get to the Iron Bowl without a loss I would not be the least bit surprised to see the Tide bite them in the a$$ and ruin the BCS championship dreams.

2. LSU (10-2). I'm not sure if Arizona and Fresno St. were competitive when LSU scheduled them but they sure aren't now. The nonconference schedule is walk in the park. LSU does have three brutal road games at AU, UT and UF. I'm going to get ballsy and go ahead and call LSU's regular season losses at AU and K-town.

3. Ole Miss (9-3). Please nod your head if you are now convinced that I have lost my mind, assuming I ever had it in the first place. I've got two words for those of you who are now nodding like you are affected by Tourette's Syndrome, Brent Schaeffer. I don't think he's the be-all-end-all or anything, but he will keep Coach O out of the fryin' pan for a little longer. Look for the Rebs to take their hits against UGA, AU and LSU. I'm calling suprise road wins at Mizzou, Bama and Arky.

4. Arkansas (6-6). Attention Pigs...the Mustain renaissance will not begin this year. I'm not about to jump on the Nutt bandwagon. Look for Woooo Pig whoopins from USC, AU, Ole Miss, S.Carolina, UT and LSU.

5. Alabama (6-6). The toughest nonconference foe looks to be Duke. Throw in Vandy and Miss St. and six wins are pretty much a lock. Losses to Arky, UF, Ole Miss, UT, LSU, and AU will put Shula straight into the fire (forget the frying pan). I could actually see the Tide taking 4th with a win over Arkansas and finishing 7-5.

6. Miss St. (4-8). I'm assuming they can get the road win at UAB.

SEC East:
1. Tennessee (11-1). We do it the old school Fulmer way. Loose to Florida, beat UGA and hope to heck that somebody covers our loss for us.
2. S.Carolina (10-2). Spurrier proves that last year was no fluke and he does it in style with wins against divisional rivals UF and UGA and in-state rival Clemson. Only losses to AU and UT sully the record. You can't spell "citrus" without "USC" So what if it's the Capital One now?
3. Florida (8-4). I am confident that our resident Gators will dissect this one into oblivion, but I'm thinking that UF beats UT early and adds a big win against UGA. However, the LSU and Auburn games loom large and I'm sticking them both in the the "L" column. Add a loss to the Ole Ball Coach, I know that's gonna' sting, and a loss to Fl.St. and you see where I'm coming from. If UF looses to UT, I fully expect a serious QB controversy and we might see the wheels come off the bus for the Gator Nation ala the '05 Vols.
4. Georgia (8-4). Even with a great defense, it's hard to win with a sputtering offense. Tereshinski sure 'aint going to get it done for the Dawgs. Look for Stafford to be the starter half way through the season as Richt decides to look toward the future. Losses to S.Car, UT, UF and AU. I know people will balk about the UT over UGA call. My brief analysis of that game is that the Dawgs will not be able to throw on UT's secondary this year. The Georgia running game is weak. UT will hand it off to Foster 35+ times and repeat the stunner of 2004.
5. Kentucky (5-7). This might be considered a rebound in Lexington. Losses to Louisville (that one will probably be the catalyst for firing Rich Brooks), Ole Miss, UF, S.Car, LSU, UGA and UT.
6. Vandy (2-10). Life without Cutler is going to be hell on West End. Guaranteed losses to Michigan, Bama, Arky, UGA, S.Car, UF and UT. If my Ole Miss theory holds up count that road game a loss. Add a pair of road losses to fellow cellar dwellers, but home favorites, Duke and KY and it looks like the only win over a 1A opponent this year will be Temple.

Sorry man. Can't agree totally.

Auburn (11-1) Loses to Florida
LSU (11-1) Loses to Auburn
Arkansas (8-4) Losses to USC, Aub, TN, LSU
Alabama (7-5) Losses to Ark, Flor, TN, LSU, Aub
Mississippi (5-7) Wins vs. Mem, UK, Vandy, NW St, MS St.
Miss St. (2-10) Wins vs. Tulane, Jack St.

Tennessee (11-1) Loses to LSU
Florida (10-2) Losses to TN and LSU
Georgia (8-4) Losses to S. Car., Tenn, Florida, Aub
S. Carolina (7-5) Losses to Aub, Tn, Ark, Flor, Clem
Kentucky (5-7) Wins vs. TX St, Cen Mich, MS St, Vandy, LA Mon
Vandy (3-9) Wins vs. TN St, Temple, Duke

Tennessee Beats Auburn in the SEC CG in a CLASSIC Battle.

 

[bleedingorange]

SEC EAST


Florida
South Carolina
Georgia
Tennessee
Kentucky
Vanderbilt

 

[vols kick balls]

SEC EAST
Florida
South Carolina
Georgia
Tennessee
Kentucky
Vanderbilt

no way south carolina is that good

 

[bleedingorange]

no way south carolina is that good

As long as Spurrier is there coach they can beat anybody in the SEC

 

[bleedingorange]

Let me re-phrase that, as long as Spurrier is there coach they have a chance of beating anybody in the SEC

 

[RockyRod]

33% chance to win the East

UF 50%
UT 33%
UG 10%
USC 7%

20% Chance to win the SEC

UF 30%
LSU 25%
AU 20%
UT 20%
UG 5%

 

[vols kick balls]

33% chance to win the East

UF 50%
UT 33%
UG 10%
USC 7%

20% Chance to win the SEC

UF 30%
LSU 25%
AU 20%
UT 20%
UG 5%

you just make that up or get it from somewhere?

 

[kiddiedoc]

Subject to change based on preseason injuries, expulsions, etc. here are my SEC preseason picks with record and some explanation:

SEC West:
1. Auburn (12-0). Even if AU is not quite as good as expected their schedule is perfect with 4 nonconference cupcakes and all quality opponents at home. I think they beat LSU, the primary competition in the West, at the plains thus securing the head-to-head tiebreaker agasint the Bayou Bengals. I could see the Aubies dropping one to either UF or UGA along the way which would pretty much screw up my whole SEC East projeciton. If they do somehow get to the Iron Bowl without a loss I would not be the least bit surprised to see the Tide bite them in the a$$ and ruin the BCS championship dreams.

2. LSU (10-2). I'm not sure if Arizona and Fresno St. were competitive when LSU scheduled them but they sure aren't now. The nonconference schedule is walk in the park. LSU does have three brutal road games at AU, UT and UF. I'm going to get ballsy and go ahead and call LSU's regular season losses at AU and K-town.

3. Ole Miss (9-3). Please nod your head if you are now convinced that I have lost my mind, assuming I ever had it in the first place. I've got two words for those of you who are now nodding like you are affected by Tourette's Syndrome, Brent Schaeffer. I don't think he's the be-all-end-all or anything, but he will keep Coach O out of the fryin' pan for a little longer. Look for the Rebs to take their hits against UGA, AU and LSU. I'm calling suprise road wins at Mizzou, Bama and Arky.

4. Arkansas (6-6). Attention Pigs...the Mustain renaissance will not begin this year. I'm not about to jump on the Nutt bandwagon. Look for Woooo Pig whoopins from USC, AU, Ole Miss, S.Carolina, UT and LSU.

5. Alabama (6-6). The toughest nonconference foe looks to be Duke. Throw in Vandy and Miss St. and six wins are pretty much a lock. Losses to Arky, UF, Ole Miss, UT, LSU, and AU will put Shula straight into the fire (forget the frying pan). I could actually see the Tide taking 4th with a win over Arkansas and finishing 7-5.

6. Miss St. (4-8). I'm assuming they can get the road win at UAB.

SEC East:
1. Tennessee (11-1). We do it the old school Fulmer way. Loose to Florida, beat UGA and hope to heck that somebody covers our loss for us.
2. S.Carolina (10-2). Spurrier proves that last year was no fluke and he does it in style with wins against divisional rivals UF and UGA and in-state rival Clemson. Only losses to AU and UT sully the record. You can't spell "citrus" without "USC" So what if it's the Capital One now?
3. Florida (8-4). I am confident that our resident Gators will dissect this one into oblivion, but I'm thinking that UF beats UT early and adds a big win against UGA. However, the LSU and Auburn games loom large and I'm sticking them both in the the "L" column. Add a loss to the Ole Ball Coach, I know that's gonna' sting, and a loss to Fl.St. and you see where I'm coming from. If UF looses to UT, I fully expect a serious QB controversy and we might see the wheels come off the bus for the Gator Nation ala the '05 Vols.
4. Georgia (8-4). Even with a great defense, it's hard to win with a sputtering offense. Tereshinski sure 'aint going to get it done for the Dawgs. Look for Stafford to be the starter half way through the season as Richt decides to look toward the future. Losses to S.Car, UT, UF and AU. I know people will balk about the UT over UGA call. My brief analysis of that game is that the Dawgs will not be able to throw on UT's secondary this year. The Georgia running game is weak. UT will hand it off to Foster 35+ times and repeat the stunner of 2004.
5. Kentucky (5-7). This might be considered a rebound in Lexington. Losses to Louisville (that one will probably be the catalyst for firing Rich Brooks), Ole Miss, UF, S.Car, LSU, UGA and UT.
6. Vandy (2-10). Life without Cutler is going to be hell on West End. Guaranteed losses to Michigan, Bama, Arky, UGA, S.Car, UF and UT. If my Ole Miss theory holds up count that road game a loss. Add a pair of road losses to fellow cellar dwellers, but home favorites, Duke and KY and it looks like the only win over a 1A opponent this year will be Temple.

Thanks for the one post on this thread that's been worth reading. A good bit of it is ballsy, but I like when preseason picks are just that.

I'll dissent on Ole Miss winning 9 games and Spurrier winning 10. If the Head Cock pulls that rabbit out of his visor, he deserves every accolade available to a college coach. Schaeffer, I'm afraid, is landing in a talent pool of mediocrity. He'll try to do it all himself, and will meet similar results to his stint at UT until his receivers and line improve and he learns to have patience and distribute the ball.

If UT goes 11-1 I'll shave my head and paint it orange for the SEC championship

If Auburn goes 12-0 and gets left at the altar again, I'll laugh.

I'm thinking that UF will struggle more than the Gator faithful would like, as Leak just looks like a square peg in a round hole.

My predictions:

WEST
LSU
Auburn
Alabama
Arkansas
Ole Miss
Miss St

EAST
Georgia
Tennessee
Florida
SC
Kentucky
Vandy