Terrance Coleman DT

#77
#77
Montrell Hardy said:
Well why do you think they stopped and are now recruiting him again?
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All this tells me is that our staff has decided to pursue a very solid player that fits the 3-4 DL mold we seem to be going after and can come in in January a most likely provide immediate help...

Any further interpretation of this results in nothing but speculation
 
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thunder5 said:
All this tells me is that our staff has decided to pursue a very solid player that fits the 3-4 DL mold we seem to be going after and can come in in January a most likely provide immediate help...

Any further interpretation of this results in nothing but speculation
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Again, why back off the kid for 2-3 months then?

So basically your of the mind that every recruit Tennessee takes is a guy the staff is high on and wants, even if they missed out on all the guys at his position higher on the board..?

Just curious if that is your stance. Like I've said over and over just because a guy with a poor offer list signs with Tennessee, it doesn't mean the staff was high on him. At the very least you have to field a team even if they are marginal talents. This is exactly why the program is in the 5 to 7 win predicament it is in right now. Too many marginal to below average players on scholarship.
 
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MH, considering the lack of depth at various positions right now I'd argue that the current problem was caused by not signing enough 2-3* type kids at positions of need and trying to develop them. Instead, Fulmer tried to snow us by recruiting a bunch of highly rated athletes who have all sorts of academic and character issues. The highly rated recruiting classes masked the fact that the program was not reloading anymore.
 
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thunder5 said:
All this tells me is that our staff has decided to pursue a very solid player that fits the 3-4 DL mold we seem to be going after and can come in in January a most likely provide immediate help...

Any further interpretation of this results in nothing but speculation
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I'm not buying this. I keep seeing people say that we're switching to a 3-4 and for the life of me can't figure out why. I look at the guys we're recruiting and I think of what Chuck Smith said, which is that we want guys that are versatile. I think our base is still going to be a 40 defense, but the staff wants guys that also allows them to be multiple.

Sorry, just something that's been bothering me lately. Every time I sign on here someone is saying that we're switching to a 3-4 without reason.
 
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Montrell Hardy said:
Again, why back off the kid for 2-3 months then?

So basically your of the mind that every recruit Tennessee takes is a guy the staff is high on and wants, even if they missed out on all the guys at his position higher on the board..?

Just curious if that is your stance. Like I've said over and over just because a guy with a poor offer list signs with Tennessee, it doesn't mean the staff was high on him. At the very least you have to field a team even if they are marginal talents. This is exactly why the program is in the 5 to 7 win predicament it is in right now. Too many marginal to below average players on scholarship.
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I'm not of that mind at all...

I'm of the mind that it's unreasonable to immediately assume negative things that have in no way been substantiated...

Yes we've missed on some DT's we liked...but by all public accounts we're still high on the list for several other highly rated ones...just starting to recruit this guy again is not a sign that we're going to miss out on the those players...

I'm just taking the piss with you Montrell...I respect your opinion and value your insight...but your pessimistic tendencies are well documented...kind of like when you saw Tom Smith's quotes about staying committed to us and immediately assumed they were made before the UF/UM offers...when in fact they came after those offers...

When in doubt your mind goes to the negative...I'm just more of the optimistic type
 
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thunder5 said:
I'm not of that mind at all...

I'm of the mind that it's unreasonable to immediately assume negative things that have in no way been substantiated...

Yes we've missed on some DT's we liked...but by all public accounts we're still high on the list for several other highly rated ones...just starting to recruit this guy again is not a sign that we're going to miss out on the those players...

I'm just taking a piss with you Montrell...I respect your opinion and value your insight...but your pessimistic tendencies are well documented...kind of like when you saw Tom Smith's quotes about staying committed to us and immediately assumed they were made before the UF/UM offers...when in fact they came after those offers...

When in doubt your mind goes to the negative...I'm just more of the optimistic type
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Had to look that one up. lol The third example is hilarious. I can't believe they would use that as an example.
Urban Dictionary: taking the piss
 
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#88
Hubbs mentioned in the WR that he thinks the staff will take a pass on Coleman due to the lack of size.
 
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#91
I mean if he isn't big enough to play a certain position, move on to someone who is. I'm not sure how that's funny.
 
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#95
VolunteerHillbilly said:
MH, considering the lack of depth at various positions right now I'd argue that the current problem was caused by not signing enough 2-3* type kids at positions of need and trying to develop them. Instead, Fulmer tried to snow us by recruiting a bunch of highly rated athletes who have all sorts of academic and character issues. The highly rated recruiting classes masked the fact that the program was not reloading anymore.
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Revis and Andersron certainly haven't helped our OLine depth for this season and that is an enormous need. Those guys fit that 2-3* bill. Plus 2 of Fulmer's last 3 recruiting classes were horrible on paper. He wasn't exactly getting a lot of highly rated guys over his final 3 years and it is now showing up on the field.
 
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jmoore_21 said:
Hubbs mentioned in the WR that he thinks the staff will take a pass on Coleman due to the lack of size.
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Not a surprise. They backed off him already back in the summer, so I figured this may have been the kid talking up and overstating Tennessee's interest more than anything.
 
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Montrell Hardy said:
Revis and Andersron certainly haven't helped our OLine depth for this season and that is an enormous need. Those guys fit that 2-3* bill. Plus 2 of Fulmer's last 3 recruiting classes were horrible on paper. He wasn't exactly getting a lot of highly rated guys over his final 3 years and it is now showing up on the field.
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All that might be true, but they're Tennessee guys :crazy:
 
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Montrell Hardy said:
Revis and Andersron certainly haven't helped our OLine depth for this season and that is an enormous need. Those guys fit that 2-3* bill. Plus 2 of Fulmer's last 3 recruiting classes were horrible on paper. He wasn't exactly getting a lot of highly rated guys over his final 3 years and it is now showing up on the field.
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His one "good" class only had 1 OL. Should of seen the problem coming you sign over 30 kids and there's only one big ugly.
 
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chavisut said:
His one "good" class only had 1 OL. Should of seen the problem coming you sign over 30 kids and there's only one big ugly.
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Exactly. The bottom line is Fulmer recruited awful his last few years and now Tennessee is paying for it. You never go an entire recruiting class and sign 1 offensive lineman, especially when you recruited poorly on the OLine the year before that.
 
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