Texas A&M coming to the SEC????

I thought about that too. Does that mean Alabama would have to drop Tennessee series as the result?

Good question. It's really tough to say. This exact issue is one of the reasons I could see Arkansas moving to the East instead of the barn.

Personally, I'd rather keep playing Tennessee and let the barn slip into the cross-divisional rotation. The Iron Bowl has become way too emotionally charged in that state, and I think a cooling off period might be in order.
 
Maybe not. If each team had an extra divisional game, they could simply eliminate one of the cross-divisional games (6 and 2 instead of 5 and 3). That way teams don't play an unequal number of home and away games.

Or since the main system changed to 12 game seasons (from that of 11 when the conference systems started), couldn't playing 9 conference games ( 6 same division, 3 other) with 3 "schedule as you wish" games be a possibility
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Or since the main system changed to 12 game seasons (from that of 11 when the conference systems started), couldn't playing 9 conference games ( 6 same division, 3 other) with 3 "schedule as you wish" games be a possibility
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Yeah, but I'm not a fan of uneven home/away conference schedules. I suppose you could divide it where every team in the East gets the extra home game in Year A, and then the West in Year B. Still, I'd prefer for it to be even every year.
 
I think TAMU and NC State are the top two options. Don't be fooled, the three prime factors in expansion are money, money, and more money. Name recognition and competitiveness are only mildly relevant to the equation.

Adding those two schools not only gives the SEC access to new audiences in large tv markets, but also opens the door for the SEC to market itself to new potential sponsors.

Houston (10th in the nation), Charlotte (24th), and Raleigh-Durham (27th) would immediately become the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th largest media markets in the SEC footprint, behind only Atlanta. In addition, I'm sure the number of fortune 500 companies located in those cities (oil, technology, banking, etc.) look like a fresh, juicy, grilled steak sitting on a platter for the SEC to enjoy.
 
Just a guess here:

After A&M joins the SEC and after the SEC poaches one more team from somewhere else. . . . . . . VaTech, Mizzery, OU, . . . (not sure OU goes anywhere without OkieSt). . . . . anyways, after all of that shakes out, I would suspect a gathering of Conference Commissioners, and probably Conference Presidents to try to sort all of this mess out, maybe try to split some of these teams amicably. Because the Big12 is toast. They will be divided up, and if the different conferences can get together and try to do it together, there may be a way to make at least part of it happen to everyones liking.

But there will be some bitterness, no way around it.
 
Not particularly. I wanted the Big12 to stay united. Since the departure of Nebraska, the folks in Austin have made it clear of their future intentions through the selfishness they've displayed under the guise of being "all for whats best of the remaining members". I'll call BS.

We saved this sob last year by turning Slive down and if you don't believe that, I cant find a damn to give you.

If you think I'd appreciate it if my school sat around (one second longer) while some raggedy ass cow college on the forty acres dictates terms as to what's gonna happen until they decide to go Independent, you're might be the dumbest dumbass I've ever seen.

I hoped like hell this thing would survive, but its clear it wont. I say Secession now. Secession tomorrow, and secession forever. We'll whip their collective arrogant ass every Turkey Day, and that's just fine with me.

As for the kids, the Southland can have Baylor. They're about on par with each other. I don't care at all what happens to the farm kids in Kansas or Iowa. The tards in Lubbock could go West or go to Hell. Either which is fine by me. A soft spot remains for the land thieves but not so much for Okie Lite. Maybe they'll land on their feet. As for Mizzou, who knows?

Does that clear up my position for everyone now?

lol, perfectly! :) Not much nostalgia left, in other words.

I hope it happens, both for the SEC and for aTm.
 
A&M president Loftin just said after regents' closed-door session that the Longhorn Network has created 'uncertainty' in the Big 12. Also added he has not been in contact with anyone from the SEC in a while.


One way to view this is that they did not discuss secession as it was not on the agenda. By law, they could not. This also allows for the President to cover his butt from undue speculation. Lastly, it wont matter if the LHN is not restructured.

We'll leave.
 
I've taken a look at an NC State board in the last day and I would say that the majority of the people on the board would love to jump to the SEC. They have a very similar line of thinking that aTm fans seem to have. They feel that they are disrespected by UNC and that the Holes' umm.. Heels' run the ACC and they want to get out from under their shadow. Although State fans want to go they mostly feel that there is no way it will happen.
 
It appears that if Texas doesn't back down, A&M is going to pack their things and SECede. This is just the beginning of the long process.
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I think TAMU and NC State are the top two options. Don't be fooled, the three prime factors in expansion are money, money, and more money. Name recognition and competitiveness are only mildly relevant to the equation.

Adding those two schools not only gives the SEC access to new audiences in large tv markets, but also opens the door for the SEC to market itself to new potential sponsors.

Houston (10th in the nation), Charlotte (24th), and Raleigh-Durham (27th) would immediately become the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th largest media markets in the SEC footprint, behind only Atlanta. In addition, I'm sure the number of fortune 500 companies located in those cities (oil, technology, banking, etc.) look like a fresh, juicy, grilled steak sitting on a platter for the SEC to enjoy.

I've really been wanting to throw NC State out there for a long time as an option for the reasons you listed but have been skiddish in doing so. They might be #3 in NC, but it makes sense for several reasons.
 
I've really been wanting to throw NC State out there for a long time as an option for the reasons you listed but have been skiddish in doing so. They might be #3 in NC, but it makes sense for several reasons.

I think they'd easily have NC's premier football team if they were in the SEC.
 
I've really been wanting to throw NC State out there for a long time as an option for the reasons you listed but have been skiddish in doing so. They might be #3 in NC, but it makes sense for several reasons.

It's not just really where they're located, is it? How much of the area do they actually draw of the area in a good year, whether or bad?
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Move Ala and Aub to east and put AM and Oaky in west

If A&M and OK come to the SEC, that would be the likely scenario. It protects the Auburn-Alabama rivalry. I believe reviving the Texas A&M-LSU rivalry would be good for the SEC.
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If they add aTm and OU, and then move Auburn to the East, then we will lose our annual game with Alabama. Auburn would become Alabama's annual Eastern division game. We'd get an annual game with either aTm or OU. I'm not really a big fan of that.
 
Move Ala and Aub to east and put AM and Oaky in west

That would give you:

East
1. Florida
2. Tennessee
3. Georgia
4. USC
5. Kentucky
6. Vandy
7. Alabama
8. Auburn

West
1. LSU
2. Ole Miss
3. MSU
4. Arkansas
5. aTm
6. OU

If you add aTm and OU to the west, only 1 team moves east. See my post above for why Tennessee won't want that scenario.
 
Pretty much the same with any 1 team that comes along aTm (OU, Mizzou,.....anyone else from that area someone seems to really want), they'll just move someone to the east.....at most complex, one rivalry moves east and someone gets pulled west

It's not necessarily contingent on direction or location....ie because they add someone from the west doesn't mean they have to target and have some team located to the
east (or on the east coast or whatever)
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no matter what the do, I can guarantee 2 things:

1) they will NOT leave unbalanced divisions. If they add one team to the west, they will add one team to the East. Period.

2) OU doesnt leave for anywhere without taking OkieSt with them. It does not make sense to the schools in any way, shape or form. There is more to this than football.

d) we wont know what is happening until it happens.
 
Pretty much the same with any 1 team that comes along aTm (OU, Mizzou,.....anyone else from that area someone seems to really want), they'll just move someone to the east.....at most complex, one rivalry moves east and someone gets pulled west

It's not necessarily contingent on direction or location....ie because they add someone from the west doesn't mean they have to target and have some team located to the
east (or on the east coast or whatever)
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yep. This is why the Big Ten went with that lameazz Legends and Leaders divisions. . . to keep away from East/West North/South issues. Could not have picked dumber names though. Except maybe Dumb and Dumber.
 
Good question. It's really tough to say. This exact issue is one of the reasons I could see Arkansas moving to the East instead of the barn.

Personally, I'd rather keep playing Tennessee and let the barn slip into the cross-divisional rotation. The Iron Bowl has become way too emotionally charged in that state, and I think a cooling off period might be in order.

Most people do not realize that the UT/Bama series is a longer running continuous series than the Iron Bowl which started in 1948.
 
no matter what the do, I can guarantee 2 things:

1) they will NOT leave unbalanced divisions. If they add one team to the west, they will add one team to the East. Period.

2) OU doesnt leave for anywhere without taking OkieSt with them. It does not make sense to the schools in any way, shape or form. There is more to this than football.

d) we wont know what is happening until it happens.

To be fair (though i'm not necessarily oklahoma's biggest proponent....or opponent really), they could always just treat OK St as an annual OOC game like UF-FSU; they have 4 slots for it



but OKst might in fact have more of a pull on them, as you say
 

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