Texas A&M/SEC megamerge thread extravaganza

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I'm starting to buy the superconference hype we heard about last year. The Big 12 is getting smaller and smaller, and if they do pursue other teams, I'm sure they'd steal them from lower conferences. I could easily see conferences like the SEC, PAC-12, Big 12, ACC, and Big 10 having about 16 teams within the next decade or so. Who says college football isn't a business?
 
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VOLnMiami said:
Well if 16 is the target...Take A&M, Mizzou and Oklahoma and okie st....then we become the ultimate conference
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I would rather trade Oklahoma and Okie state for Va and Va tech or even UNC and NC state, but would take it either way
 
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Hey DeerPark12,

Can you clarify regarding the existing TV contracts? The Darren Rovell article I linked to suggested that the addition of A&M would not necessarily trigger a substantial re-working of the financial terms.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
I think Virginia Tech won't be allowed to come without Virginia. Ditto for North Carolina without NC State. That's what I mean by legislature problems.

The University of Virginia and the Virginia Legislature worked very hard to get Tech in the ACC. That's something not to be forgotten.
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Not many Tech fans I've encountered think that is an issue concerning alignment, and, being from Virginia, I don't either.

The Virginia General Assembly is likely not going to interfere with this, because it's going to be bringing one of their two biggest state schools recognition and money. The legislature only got involved last time because Tech wanted into the ACC, and the government could use UVa as leverage to achieve that end.

I highly doubt they will block Tech from leaving, because what they will act for for the schools is what is best for each school individually; they aren't worried about preserving that rivalry, either, because Tech and UVa have done it before while in different conferences. I can guarantee that they aren't worried about UVa getting left out in all of this, because chances are that UVa will not. They're good enough in other sports to be competitive, their football program appears to be turning around, and the academics boost they would bring could turn out to be valuable.

The circumstances are very different from the OU-Okie State, Kansas-Kansas State situations.
 
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rockytop9808 said:
Not many Tech fans I've encountered think that is an issue concerning alignment, and, being from Virginia, I don't either.

The Virginia General Assembly is likely not going to interfere with this, because it's going to be bringing one of their two biggest state schools recognition and money. The legislature only got involved last time because Tech wanted into the ACC, and the government could use UVa as leverage to achieve that end.

I highly doubt they will block Tech from leaving, because what they will act for for the schools is what is best for each school individually; they aren't worried about preserving that rivalry, either, because Tech and UVa have done it before while in different conferences. I can guarantee that they aren't worried about UVa getting left out in all of this, because chances are that UVa will not. They're good enough in other sports to be competitive, their football program appears to be turning around, and the academics boost they would bring could turn out to be valuable.

The circumstances are very different from the OU-Okie State, Kansas-Kansas State situations.
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I hope you are right; as I see Va or Va Tech as a better school to align with the SEC than either of the Oka. schools or Kansas schools
 
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tvolsfan said:
But why would there be two cross division games?
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The assumption is that if two teams move in from the west, Auburn would move to the east, and they would want to maintain the Iron Bowl as well as the Georgia rivalry.

Obviously at 16 teams and 4 divisions, all bets would be off, but each school would probably have two permanent rivals outside their 4-team division.

Velo Vol said:
Hey DeerPark12,

Can you clarify regarding the existing TV contracts? The Darren Rovell article I linked to suggested that the addition of A&M would not necessarily trigger a substantial re-working of the financial terms.
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There's not necessarily an automatic trigger for renegotiation, but the SEC has "look-ins" every two years where they can re-evaluate the situation. There is also ambiguous language about a mutual look at the terms if the Conference is "radically altered" in some way.
 
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rockytop9808 said:
Not many Tech fans I've encountered think that is an issue concerning alignment, and, being from Virginia, I don't either.

The Virginia General Assembly is likely not going to interfere with this, because it's going to be bringing one of their two biggest state schools recognition and money. The legislature only got involved last time because Tech wanted into the ACC, and the government could use UVa as leverage to achieve that end.

I highly doubt they will block Tech from leaving, because what they will act for for the schools is what is best for each school individually; they aren't worried about preserving that rivalry, either, because Tech and UVa have done it before while in different conferences. I can guarantee that they aren't worried about UVa getting left out in all of this, because chances are that UVa will not. They're good enough in other sports to be competitive, their football program appears to be turning around, and the academics boost they would bring could turn out to be valuable.
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Don't be so sure.

Obviously, Virgina would be a part of whatever would rise from the ashes of the ACC/BigEast, but I think they would prefer not endorsing it by allowing Va Tech to bolt at the first opportunity.
 
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might want to recheck the Va Tech info.

Speaking from his office at Virginia Tech’s Burruss Hall, Larry Hincker sounded frustrated. Hincker is the main spokesman for the university and its president, Charles Steger. And he was a tad irked about having to respond today to another report linking Tech and the Southeastern Conference.

“If there’s a frustration that you’re seeing in my voice, the frustration is that people are making things up,” he said.

So there you have it. You can dissect what “leading candidate” to become the 14th team means. Is it just that the SEC covets Tech? Or is in the interest mutual?

It most certainly is not, Hincker said.

“Total poppycock,” he said. “What’s ridiculous is that we’ve got bloggers and unnamed sources postulating and telling what Virginia Tech’s future is going to be. And our athletic director and our president are on record as saying we have absolutely no interest in this whatsoever. And yet the speculation still continues. And it’s a little frustrating, to be honest with you.”

Virginia Tech Effect - Blog
 
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DeerPark12 said:
Don't be so sure.

Obviously, Virgina would be a part of whatever would rise from the ashes of the ACC/BigEast, but I think they would prefer not endorsing it by allowing Va Tech to bolt at the first opportunity.
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I don't think UVa will have an issue with it, and I don't know that they would be able to get the pull to stop it even if they did.
 
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GreveHaller said:
might want to recheck the Va Tech info.

Speaking from his office at Virginia Tech’s Burruss Hall, Larry Hincker sounded frustrated. Hincker is the main spokesman for the university and its president, Charles Steger. And he was a tad irked about having to respond today to another report linking Tech and the Southeastern Conference.

“If there’s a frustration that you’re seeing in my voice, the frustration is that people are making things up,” he said.

So there you have it. You can dissect what “leading candidate” to become the 14th team means. Is it just that the SEC covets Tech? Or is in the interest mutual?

It most certainly is not, Hincker said.

“Total poppycock,” he said. “What’s ridiculous is that we’ve got bloggers and unnamed sources postulating and telling what Virginia Tech’s future is going to be. And our athletic director and our president are on record as saying we have absolutely no interest in this whatsoever. And yet the speculation still continues. And it’s a little frustrating, to be honest with you.”

Virginia Tech Effect - Blog
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The same things have been said all along, and were initially said by the admins at Tech back before their ACC move. It's some nice admin speak. Your point?
 
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#689
14 team league

texas a&m (south carolina)
lsu (florida)
arky (kentucky)
bama (tennessee)
auburn (georgia)
miss state (ole miss)
***14th member (assuming from west) (vandy)

florida (lsu)
georgia (auburn)
south carolina (texas a&m)
ole miss (miss state)
kentucky (arkansas)
tennessee (bama)
vandy (14th member)

i think this would pretty much preserve the current rivalry status of 14 team league. if it was an 8 game league schedule, you rotate an one extra. a 9 game schedule, you rotate 2 extra
 
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Another thing that hasnt been mentioned:

The Pac-12 split the California schools into different divisions, but structured the scheduling so that they would all play each other. The other schools don't have permanent rivals. It's not impossible that the scheduling could be set up so that Bama-UT and AU-UGA are the only cross-divisional rivalries that are permanent.
 
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Couple of things about recruiting in the state of Texas.

First, I'll give the University of Texas the top 25 players in the state every single year. Done deal. Then leave the rest of Texas to divide between OU (which does very well in the Dallas area), A&M, LSU, and then the others (TCU, Tech, Baylor, SMU). Then add other major nationwide programs which all have had success at one time or another to pick off a recruit or two.

Here's what's crazy...TCU ran the table last year and did it with several football players from the state of Texas that were passed over by the major players. In fact, most of his players are from the D/FW area. The talent in Texas is there and there's plenty for everyone.

Now, regarding a potential SEC school from the West that does not favor A&M...my money is on LSU. Sherman has been picking off recruits of late in Louisiana. Some are sticking with A&M...a couple jumped to LSU when LSU finally offered. One would think an A&M in the SEC would be a problem for our Baton Rouge friends.
 
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GreveHaller said:
might want to recheck the Va Tech info.

Speaking from his office at Virginia Tech’s Burruss Hall, Larry Hincker sounded frustrated. Hincker is the main spokesman for the university and its president, Charles Steger. And he was a tad irked about having to respond today to another report linking Tech and the Southeastern Conference.

“If there’s a frustration that you’re seeing in my voice, the frustration is that people are making things up,” he said.

So there you have it. You can dissect what “leading candidate” to become the 14th team means. Is it just that the SEC covets Tech? Or is in the interest mutual?

It most certainly is not, Hincker said.

“Total poppycock,” he said. “What’s ridiculous is that we’ve got bloggers and unnamed sources postulating and telling what Virginia Tech’s future is going to be. And our athletic director and our president are on record as saying we have absolutely no interest in this whatsoever. And yet the speculation still continues. And it’s a little frustrating, to be honest with you.”

Virginia Tech Effect - Blog
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:lol: poppycock
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Escape Goat said:
No. You have basically been on here non stop trying to "inform" us. Congrats. Welcome to mediocrity. Have fun.
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It would be a real pleasure meeting some of you mouth breathers one of these days. Sadly, I have a zero tolerance policy on dipsticks and crayon chewers at my tailgate. Sucks for you I suppose.

And on that note, I've had about all I want from some of you.

We'll see ya out there.
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TXVOL07 said:
It would be a real pleasure meeting some of you mouth breathers one of these days. Sadly, I have a zero tolerance policy on dipsticks and crayon chewers at my tailgate. Sucks for you I suppose.

And on that note, I've had about all I want from some of you.

We'll see ya out there.
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I like the orange crayons.
 
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#697
It was reported on the radio in KC that BYU to issue a statement on the Big 12. Also Big 12 will be meeting in KC and it's expected that big 12 conference commissioner Dan Beebe will resign or be fired. That just came over the radio.
 
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give_him 6 said:
It was reported on the radio in KC that BYU to issue a statement on the Big 12. Also Big 12 will be meeting in KC and it's expected that big 12 conference commissioner Dan Beebe will resign or be fired. That just came over the radio.
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That would suck for Dan. He lived up the street from me when he was the OVC commish. He's a really good guy. He's really not to blame for the downfall of his conference.
 
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bamawriter said:
That would suck for Dan. He lived up the street from me when he was the OVC commish. He's a really good guy. He's really not to blame for the downfall of his conference.
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You know how radio guys are. Who knows how much truth there is in what they say.
 
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bamawriter said:
That would suck for Dan. He lived up the street from me when he was the OVC commish. He's a really good guy. He's really not to blame for the downfall of his conference.
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He may be a good guy but he does deserve partial blame. The most blame undoubtedly goes to Texas.
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