Texas, 'He Is Lying. People Are Dying'

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FLVOL_79 said:
Some of you left wingers would lose your f###ing sh!t in the summer if you found out most of Europe doesn't have A/C. I can see it now "WHY DID YOU ALL NOT PREPARE FOR THESE POSSIBLE HEAT WAVE!"!"!"!"!

Wait..a lot of the north doesn't have A/C either. Oh man..people better start getting those systems in just in case the ozone layer fails!


Flash flood warning at my house. Sh!t..Going to go buy a boat and/or a hovercraft in case Atlanta floods!
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I am going to demand that Stacey Abrahams is elected Governor and has the state pay for putting all of our homes on stilts. Otherwise we aren't prepared
 
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That dude pays $600 a month for electric? Was he running an arcade in his basement 24/7?
 
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VolinMichigan said:
That dude pays $600 a month for electric? Was he running an arcade in his basement 24/7?
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Yeah, something is fishy. I bet this guy wasn't a normal residential customer, but a business that chose a certain business rate. I hate it that the media just runs with a story and don't do the proper background work.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Now that seems to make sense. Because I have been scratching my head trying to figure out why the gas plants were offline.
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I did read a couple of articles today that said the gas supply issue was caused by ERCOT cutting power to the gas producers, but I don't remember anything about being told to do so by the feds.
 
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Wind & solar power generation, electricity grids, natural gas pipelines, water systems - all are working reliably in cold weather outside of Texas. The regulated utilities made the investments to assure reliable service. Many “conservative Republican” led governments mandated this through regulatory agencies (I.e. public service commissions).

In Texas, “conservative Republican” governments encouraged the investment in wind energy, however, their ideologically driven deregulation left energy supply companies and utilities to make their own decisions regarding weatherization despite the precedent of 2011. These entities did not, placing profits before reliability & preparedness.

Billions of dollars in damages and economic disruption (not to mention deaths of citizens) all due to belligerent adherence to ideology. Properly regulated public utilities are a boon to free enterprise and the well-being of the citizenry.
 
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Wireless1 said:
The consumers of Texas need to acknowledge some responsibility. They voted for the the deregulation then voted for the risk with their pocketbooks. They could purchase fixed minimums to guarantee power or gamble with the spot market. Companies just do what their customers want
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Not everybody is doing the spot market pricing thing. That’s a small percentage. We are with TXU and they’ve stated our unit price isn’t changing it would only be due to consumption. Since were gas heat that won’t move much.
 
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Tin Man said:
Wind & solar power generation, electricity grids, natural gas pipelines, water systems - all are working reliably in cold weather outside of Texas. The regulated utilities made the investments to assure reliable service. Many “conservative Republican” led governments mandated this through regulatory agencies (I.e. public service commissions).

In Texas, “conservative Republican” governments encouraged the investment in wind energy, however, their ideologically driven deregulation left energy supply companies and utilities to make their own decisions regarding weatherization despite the precedent of 2011. These entities did not, placing profits before reliability & preparedness.

Billions of dollars in damages and economic disruption (not to mention deaths of citizens) all due to belligerent adherence to ideology. Properly regulated public utilities are a boon to free enterprise and the well-being of the citizenry.
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Wind and solar wasn’t the issue. We have plenty of capacity without wind and solar. Fuel delivery to the natural gas plants was the major driver.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
What?
No. That can’t be right.
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It isn’t. The order gives ERCOT blanket authorization to use their judgement to bring the capacity from all available sources online to meet the need. It just has verbiage in it to sound tough reminding ERCOT they will respect the authori-tah!

This narrative has not been widely distributed in TX if it were real people would be howling.

This was part of the reasoning behind the declaration and acknowledgment of the disaster declaration.
 
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Inspired by bham’s EIA data picture which I shared a retired buddy went data mining. Here is the generation capacity and temp curves for the whole event timeline.

The issue is highlighted on the temp curve. The time below freezing. If you remove the singular 2 hr blip we were below freezing for a week plus straight with the lows reaching ridiculous levels. The demand on natural gas and the gas lines freezing was the Achilles heel.
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Yeah, something is fishy. I bet this guy wasn't a normal residential customer, but a business that chose a certain business rate. I hate it that the media just runs with a story and don't do the proper background work.
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growing some weed in the basement
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Wind and solar wasn’t the issue. We have plenty of capacity without wind and solar. Fuel delivery to the natural gas plants was the major driver.
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And fuel delivery wasn’t prepared for adverse conditions, even after 2011. There was precedent. Actions could’ve been taken. They weren’t.
 
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Tin Man said:
And fuel delivery wasn’t prepared for adverse conditions, even after 2011. There was precedent. Actions could’ve been taken. They weren’t.
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Your “point” was the grid with the addition of wind and solar wasn’t hardened. As I’ve said multiple times here now. It wasn’t the grid it was fuel delivery.

Your post read like the same broke ass narrative ive heard daily on national news. We didn’t require the green capacity of our generation equipment could have gotten fuel.

Yes it was due to cold weather vulnerability... in the fuel delivery pipeline network. That responsibility falls under the Texas Railroad Commission not ERCOT.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Your “point” was the grid with the addition of wind and solar wasn’t hardened. As I’ve said multiple times here now. It wasn’t the grid it was fuel delivery.

Your post read like the same broke ass narrative ive heard daily on national news. We didn’t require the green capacity of our generation equipment could have gotten fuel.

Yes it was due to cold weather vulnerability... in the fuel delivery pipeline network. That responsibility falls under the Texas Railroad Commission not ERCOT.
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I recommend a book for you - Reading for Meaning in Elementary School.
 
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Tin Man said:
I recommend a book for you - Reading for Meaning in Elementary School.
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Sure I’ll buy it after I read your published works on “Deflection as a Means of Saving Face”. I don’t need you to tell me what happened here I lived in it. Kthxbai
 
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McDad said:
I don't understand. Is fuel delivery of natural gas via truck to a power plant?
It isn't pipeline?
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It’s predominantly direct from wellhead to power plant via pipeline from what I’ve read. Our natural gas pipeline network wasn’t hardened for these sustained cold temp operations and they froze up
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
It’s predominantly direct from wellhead to power plant via pipeline from what I’ve read. Our natural gas pipeline network wasn’t hardened for these sustained cold temp operations and they froze up
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TIL a natural gas pipeline can freeze in cold weather.
 
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