Texas hires Herman just now reported

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LSU-SIU said:
Pretty much. LSU probably would have flirted with that number (if it is true) but they got out before the bidding war started. That number would make sense, if true, as he apparently had a number already in mind on Texas's side.

It was a good pass for LSU either way, I can see $5m or so but basically he wants Saban money without the 20 years of Saban results on his resume.
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"They got out before the bidding war started"

That's certainly an optimistic take on the situation :salute:

LSU was never going to get Herman with Texas on the market for a head coach. I think Herman flirted with LSU as a backup plan incase Strong was retained by UT (which was very, very unlikely at the beginning of the season, given the way Strong had recruited the '17 class).

Good luck with Coach O, LSU-bro! If he brings Kiffin with him yall are going to have some great recruiters.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Pretty much. LSU probably would have flirted with that number (if it is true) but they got out before the bidding war started. That number would make sense, if true, as he apparently had a number already in mind on Texas's side.

It was a good pass for LSU either way, I can see $5m or so but basically he wants Saban money without the 20 years of Saban results on his resume.
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Prolly got the extra mil but is using it for Aranda.
 
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golfballs said:
He's good but let's not get crazy. He's coached 2 seasons. One was great the other was mediocre. Is he worth nearly $6M a year?
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If I were Herman and knowing what Texas does with coaches, I would have held out for $6.5 million a year for five years.

If they want him bad enough, they will pay him. And seeing how much of a honeymoon he would get with Texas, I'd make sure I got paid on the back end if it fell apart.
 
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Louisiana, lots of talent. Orge can bring in the players

NCAA says hi
 
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Grand Vol said:
If I were Herman and knowing what Texas does with coaches, I would have held out for $6.5 million a year for five years.
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Who else is going to pay that kind of money, let alone with the limited resume he has? I'm not sure why Texas paid him what they did, Herman had no leverage... he tried to product the leverage by getting LSU in a bidding war which they never had any intention of doing.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Who else is going to pay that kind of money, let alone with the limited resume he has? I'm not sure why Texas paid him what they did, Herman had no leverage... he tried to product the leverage by getting LSU in a bidding war which they never had any intention of doing.
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I agree, this guy is the flavor of the week and is not worth that kind of $$$.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Who else is going to pay that kind of money, let alone with the limited resume he has? I'm not sure why Texas paid him what they did, Herman had no leverage... he tried to product the leverage by getting LSU in a bidding war which they never had any intention of doing.
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He's making good money at Houston right now. $3 mil ain't chicken feed and he will likely get another offer from a P5 program. Probably won't be what Texas will pay, but he won't go anywhere else for less than a seven figure raise.

What I'm saying is the way Texas has treated their last two coaches, I'd make sure I had insurance just in case.
 
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Grand Vol said:
If I were Herman and knowing what Texas does with coaches, I would have held out for $6.5 million a year for five years.

If they want him bad enough, they will pay him. And seeing how much of a honeymoon he would get with Texas, I'd make sure I got paid on the back end if it fell apart.
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I think he got the 6.5 but used a million of it to lure his buddy Aranda. One decent season and he'll get it back.
 
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Zues1 said:
I agree, this guy is the flavor of the week and is not worth that kind of $$$.
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I think LSU would have gone up to $5.5m without the bidding war crap. He got top dollar, not sure why Texas paid that much as he had no leverage at that point.

I think he is a gamble, possibly a great gamble if the price was reasonable. Both LSU and Texas owe former coaches buyouts as well.
 
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butchna said:
I think he got the 6.5 but used a million of it to lure his buddy Aranda. One decent season and he'll get it back.
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Well.. then you add buyout for the defensive coordinator plus another $1.3m for Aranda buyout... plus $11m buyout to Strong and probably other coaches. What's $15m+ or so among friends.
 
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Grand Vol said:
He's making good money at Houston right now. $3 mil ain't chicken feed and he will likely get another offer from a P5 program. Probably won't be what Texas will pay, but he won't go anywhere else for less than a seven figure raise.

What I'm saying is the way Texas has treated their last two coaches, I'd make sure I had insurance just in case.
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How did they "treat" them? Mack Brown followed a losing record in 2010 with very mediocre efforts for his last 3 seasons. Strong? Never had a winning season. This last season they kept looking for a reason to keep him. He beats one win Kansas and I don't know they pull the trigger. If they even show up against TCU? Maybe the same.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Well.. then you add buyout for the defensive coordinator plus another $1.3m for Aranda buyout... plus $11m buyout to Strong and probably other coaches. What's $15m+ or so among friends.
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For OIL BILLIONAIRE friends? Shizz and giggle Monopoly money. :w00t:
 
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butchna said:
For OIL BILLIONAIRE friends? Shizz and giggle Monopoly money. :w00t:
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Saban would be there if that was the case. As far as Aranda there really isn't much a school can do if another school comes in with crazy money. "Thanks for the help... please send the check when you get the Texas"
 
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I still think this goes back to the Big 12 not letting Houston join the conference. In Herman's Houston contract, if Houston was to join a power 5 conference, his salary would automatically go to $5 million. that didn't happen and it stayed at $3 million and then Texas swoops in and gets in for 5.5 million.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
I think LSU would have gone up to $5.5m without the bidding war crap. He got top dollar, not sure why Texas paid that much as he had no leverage at that point.

I think he is a gamble, possibly a great gamble if the price was reasonable. Both LSU and Texas owe former coaches buyouts as well.
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I think your guys floated Fisher's name and put an acceptance deadline to keep him from even getting on the plane to Austin. Your guys knew he would never leave Austin unsigned. This bidding war after action report is spin at it's best. You could outbid MOST schools but not this one. On top of his history there and his preference for the state, you had no chance. Don't try to make something nefarious out of it. Most of us are in that same boat.
 
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butchna said:
How did they "treat" them? Mack Brown followed a losing record in 2010 with very mediocre efforts for his last 3 seasons. Strong? Never had a winning season. This last season they kept looking for a reason to keep him. He beats one win Kansas and I don't know they pull the trigger. If they even show up against TCU? Maybe the same.
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Perhaps I phrased that wrong. What I mean is the unrealistic expectations of the boosters and fan base in Texas expecting an automatic 10+ win season every year is hard to deal with. With some parity in recruiting among the major Texas schools (Texas, ATM, Baylor until this year, TCU and now Houston) along with the Oklahoma schools raiding talent, kids aren't automatically going to Texas out of tradition.

However, the university, the boosters and fan base expects any new coach to come in lighting it up. It's true Mack got lazy and Strong never panned out. But I was meaning the expectations aspect of how coaches are "treated" by everyone involved.
 
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butchna said:
I think your guys floated Fisher's name and put an acceptance deadline to keep him from even getting on the plane to Austin. Your guys knew he would never leave Austin unsigned. This bidding war after action report is spin at it's best. You could outbid MOST schools but not this one. On top of his history there and his preference for the state, you had no chance. Don't try to make something nefarious out of it. Most of us are in that same boat.
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LSU was not going to get into a bidding war... whether that was with FSU or Texas. LSU could have paid Herman $7.5m.... no reason to, he was not a good risk at that level. Either way there was never going to be a bidding war.... Herman is lucky to get what he got from Texas as he had no leverage.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Perhaps I phrased that wrong. What I mean is the unrealistic expectations of the boosters and fan base in Texas expecting an automatic 10+ win season every year is hard to deal with. With some parity in recruiting among the major Texas schools (Texas, ATM, Baylor until this year, TCU and now Houston) along with the Oklahoma schools raiding talent, kids aren't automatically going to Texas out of tradition.

However, the university, the boosters and fan base expects any new coach to come in lighting it up. It's true Mack got lazy and Strong never panned out. But I was meaning the expectations aspect of how coaches are "treated" by everyone involved.
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They pay top money and expect top results.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
LSU was not going to get into a bidding war... whether that was with FSU or Texas. LSU could have paid Herman $7.5m.... no reason to, he was not a good risk at that level. Either way there was never going to be a bidding war.... Herman is lucky to get what he got from Texas as he had no leverage.
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You've gone full in with this "bidding war" narrative, haven't you? You were never in this! Blame the mean shady agents for not getting the guy you were taking a flyer on, if you like. As soon as Texas wanted him, you were out of it. Maybe the potential reality of having Aranda ripped out from under you has poured a little salt on the blister
 
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butchna said:
You've gone full in with this "bidding war" narrative, haven't you? You we're never in this! Blame the mean shady agents for not getting the guy you were taking a flyer on, if you like. As soon as Texas wanted him, you were out of it.
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Yep. Told my Longhorn buddy the same thing Thursday night when he was about to slash his wrists. It wasn't over just due to the rumors flying around and hell if TX hadn't talked to Armstrong yet it hadn't even officially started.
 
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